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wow i like it, the bassline is close to what i usually use, i love that kind of basslines and the breakdown and chord progressions are brilliant, is definitely better than most of the stuff released in all the "great" uplifting trance labels.

i'm sorry this is the real uplifting song. Melody for almost 3 mins can't go wrong on how many goosebumps I get.

why do people complain about trance like really, it's something if another producer copy's another melody straight etc. but when Arctic Moon has had the same sound for the past 3 years, means he really isn't copying anyone. Personally I love seeing tracks by Arctic Moon or (Arctic Moon Remix) why because it's GONNA BE A DIFFERENT and have an original sound everytime and I KNOW that buildup is gonna send me straight to heaven fist pumping my way there.
IF YOU CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER
STFU

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Originally posted by NaVe I KNOW that buildup is gonna send me straight to heaven fist pumping my way there. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER STFU

that cat is high because of modern uplifting trance.

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Originally posted by NaVe i'm sorry this is the real uplifting song. Melody for almost 3 mins can't go wrong on how many goosebumps I get. why do people complain about trance like really, it's something if another producer copy's another melody straight etc. but when Arctic Moon has had the same sound for the past 3 years, means he really isn't copying anyone. Personally I love seeing tracks by Arctic Moon or (Arctic Moon Remix) why because it's GONNA BE A DIFFERENT and have an original sound everytime and I KNOW that buildup is gonna send me straight to heaven fist pumping my way there. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER STFU

noobs will never get it

Arctic Moon is generic, but this track Adelaide is not that bad.

And yes, Uplifting Trance is sounding the same sh*t right now. Same pads, basslines, 4 hours breakdowns etc... This kind of productions are very easy to hear (no car alarms, plic ploc) but it's EXTREMELY boring

Only a few producers doing decent uplifting.

And hey, what about labels? Their fault too, huh

whoa it's like a broken record

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos this is not shit and generic uplifting trance sir, you can like other genres completely different to uplifting trance and still like this.

LOL, it's not that i hate uplifting trance.
It's that it currently is dead to my ears.
New tunes that come out today have become formulaic shit, just like this Arctic Moon track.
Sorry to say it, but i like my uplifting trance either without fake orchestra derps or in full blown overdrive like the following uplifting track, which is just epic in my ears:



And another slammer, less energetic, but more spreadable:



Thing is that what i like as uplifting is somewhat different than what is palated to the masses.
It's not out of a desire to be different as i couldn't care less, it's purely out of difference in taste.
Here an uplifting track you uplifting trance liking peeps might like, that i like because of it's melodies and harmonies:



For me it's the melodies and harmonies that determine if i like a track or not.
Here's a japanese uplifting trancer i like, you might like it as well:

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos i've a found a track that it's a real gem in the 2011 context, i miss a softer kick but i think it has some brilliant elements

Interesting that it begins reasonably, then entices and then flutters between nice bitter-sweet melancholic and utter trite and then closes.
If this is the most interesting that 2011 has to offer in terms of uplifting, then i'll gladly skip uplifting this year as well.
I mean, you tried finding something worthwhile and it ended up being half worthwhile for me.

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Originally posted by Trance-MB Nice relaxing track, not a surprise that I like it I guess. What do you think of this track my friend Lisaya made? No vocals this time, but a self made video To be clear, I'm not Lisaya, he's a friend and relative.

Decent, but it doesn't really entice as much as the previous one and somehow that golden feeling i had in the past with much of the uplifting sound then doesn't really break through here.
It's by no means bad, but it doesn't hit the spot.

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Originally posted by NaVe i'm sorry this is the real uplifting song. Melody for almost 3 mins can't go wrong on how many goosebumps I get.

Actually, up to 2:00 or so i was interested, hooked by a smart buildup.
At about 3:00 it was beginning to dawn to me that somehow my ears were being filled with blandness, @ 4:00 that was a certainty.
Then i was thinking about what tracks like these make me think of, it was an eerie feeling of familiarity, something that can only be explained through the following vid on YouTube:



Yes, i think trance has gotten its own chords of awesome, the same chord sequences that govern trance hits and that govern the selection criteria of the trance labels.

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why do people complain about trance like really, it's something if another producer copy's another melody straight etc. but when Arctic Moon has had the same sound for the past 3 years, means he really isn't copying anyone.

Doing the same thing over and over again means that innovation is dead and entropic death has ensued.
Arctic Moon honors his name, his style is frozen stiff.
And yes, he's copying someone: Himself.

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Personally I love seeing tracks by Arctic Moon or (Arctic Moon Remix) why because it's GONNA BE A DIFFERENT and have an original sound everytime and I KNOW that buildup is gonna send me straight to heaven fist pumping my way there.

If you like his tracks, so be it, but don't attack people for criticizing an artist for being stale and stagnant.

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IF YOU CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING BETTER STFU

Worst defense against criticism.
So you like seeing a painter painting similar paintings over and over again from the same artist, with near exactly the same composition only a few shape differences and different colors?
You like watching Scooby Doo marathons?
A consumer can and will criticize, if enough consumers turn away, maybe things'll change.
Honestly, i couldn't care less what Arctic Moon and other producers do, i do care that labels and the masses are attracted like flies to shit trance, because it does limit the production of quality trance.
Read my signature for completion.

I only listened to your first two listed tracks and a question popped into my head; does every uplifting trance track need a 2min+ breakdown?

You make a point about doing the same thing over and over again, but aren't the tracks you posted doing just that or is the two minute breakdown something that somehow avoids that scrutiny?

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Originally posted by Redd I only listened to your first two listed tracks and a question popped into my head; does every uplifting trance track need a 2min+ breakdown? You make a point about doing the same thing over and over again, but aren't the tracks you posted doing just that or is the two minute breakdown something that somehow avoids that scrutiny?

Honestly, i couldn't care about 2+ minute breakdowns if they're appropriate, necessary or not distracting.
I have produced a few tracks myself with 2+ minute breakdowns just because i thought they were necessary/appropriate.
If you don't like those breakdowns then you don't like'em, it's not as if you need to like'em.

I like uplifting trance a lot, even the new stuff, but very few songs come close to the classics for me. ("Dream of You" is wonderful, though, I'm a big fan of that track)

To me, uplifting (and trance in general) was at its best when songs like these were the anthems:





Thrillseekers dropped this one last weekend, and I was almost in tears. It had been so long since I'd heard it on a club's sound system:

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Originally posted by Barachem

The question remains, are the two minute breakdowns appropriate/necessary in every uplifting trance track? If not, isn't it like you said; "Doing the same thing over and over again"?

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If you don't like those breakdowns then you don't like'em, it's not as if you need to like'em.

So if I don't like something - I don't like it, and it's not like I need to like it? What the hell does that even mean?

i miss the old formula of a breakbeat breakdown, i don't mind if the breakdown sounds properly, a part of the track without rythm but with some melodic interest, what i hate is that low db breakdowns filled with white noise.

This genre is dead, 1/100 tracks are really interesting the rest... crap.

btw this track reminds me to heidi for those who liked it



Viola (AvB Remix) this is the kind of uplifting trance i like, now there is a trend of minor key tracks, it's fine but the same arpeggiated sad melody (sad in all the amplitude of the word) simply suck.

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Originally posted by Barachem Decent, but it doesn't really entice as much as the previous one and somehow that golden feeling i had in the past with much of the uplifting sound then doesn't really break through here. It's by no means bad, but it doesn't hit the spot.

Sorry, was an half off topic question for Rodri and I agree, it's not that uplifting indeed. Don't think Lisaya tried to make it very uplifting.

I agree with some of you around here, I'm also growing a bit tired of those orchestral breakdowns as well. Yes, it sounds romantic and cinematic, but if it's all you do, the spectacular feeling you got when you first were exposed, is going to wear off.

I'm hoping that producers will scrap orchestral breakdowns in favour of other types of parts-in-a-dance-track-you-don't-dance-to-in-order-to-gain-tension.

One idea might be to have a more synthesized breakdown with cosmic textures a la Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze.

Another idea might be to have a heavy metal sequence as your breakdown. This song could easily as well be the break in your common uplifter:


Or how about an 8-bit breakdown? Jazz-styled, anyone? Please, anyhting but three string lines harmonising eachother for a minute.

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Originally posted by pointPi One idea might be to have a more synthesized breakdown with cosmic textures a la Jean Michel Jarre and Klaus Schulze. Another idea might be to have a heavy metal sequence as your breakdown.

But I like the violin and piano again most so we are back.

I bought one this in 1994, loved it and still sound so fine:




Think people will compare it with these even if it's not really in a breakdown like you suggest. But maybe it's worth a try

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Originally posted by Redd The question remains, are the two minute breakdowns appropriate/necessary in every uplifting trance track? If not, isn't it like you said; "Doing the same thing over and over again"?

I ask myself the same question with those prog tracks on labels like mistiquemusic. Why can't they develop their melodies and harmonies without resorting to a dancefloor killing 2 mins breakdown?

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