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Originally posted by Lews The friendfs of mine from high school who listen to brostep and shit are the people who listened to like "hipster" music in igh school and who think they're really special and unique and have found this great "underground" music. I don't think they listened to hardcore sceramy shit. They just think it's good underground shit. God I hate them.

Pretty much the group I was referencing, all those hipsters from way back.

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Originally posted by enydo EVERYONE knows about brostep, most of my friends who have never really listened to any sort of electronic music know about a lot of brostep artists. // So, this is just a theory of mine, but I figure this is probably the most appropriate thread to bring it up in. The popularity of the loud, bombastic wobble-step (here in the states) is most likely due to the explosion of loud and grating "screamo" and hardcore rock that occurred throughout the early 00's and onward into the last decade. A lot of people who I knew in high school who were into that type of stuff when it was at it's peak of popularity have since moved onto dubstep. In their words "it's like hardcore but electronic, bro". They connect with that loud, harsh sound since it relates very well with the screamy loud rock they liked when they were younger. Hell, Skrillex was the lead singer of this band: http://www.discogs.com/artist/From+First+To+Last So in the US, it seems as though there's a whole generation of people who were primed for that type of music, and they've kind of taken it to a whole new level from there. Personally, I am not a fan at all. /drunkpost. I'm waiting for Jack to come and absolutely waste me.

No, I think that's a fair assessment. I know dubstep has colonised alt-rock nights around here, and this is a plausible reason why. It doesn't completely explain dubstep's massive popularity, though.

I think it's a combination of the underground/alt/hipster appeal and the huge amount of bass.

Isn't DubStep the hardest genre to produce, the most complex one?
I mean, all these effects, tricks and technics...?

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Originally posted by enydo So, this is just a theory of mine, but I figure this is probably the most appropriate thread to bring it up in. The popularity of the loud, bombastic wobble-step (here in the states) is most likely due to the explosion of loud and grating "screamo" and hardcore rock that occurred throughout the early 00's and onward into the last decade. A lot of people who I knew in high school who were into that type of stuff when it was at it's peak of popularity have since moved onto dubstep. In their words "it's like hardcore but electronic, bro".

Rusko already touched on this in an interview. And you're right, a lot of the kids that like the "brostep" side of things also enjoy the hardcore/screamo scene, from my experience.

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Originally posted by future_newbie Isn't DubStep the hardest genre to produce, the most complex one? I mean, all these effects, tricks and technics...?

lol, i'm not even touching this one. too easy.

but the simple answer is "no, it's not."

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Originally posted by enydo Pretty much the group I was referencing, all those hipsters from way back.

yeah you're totally right. the crowd that i went to high school with that is into it are the band and art kids who were in emo bands in high school.

i was also a band and art kid but i listened to pap then when it was called trance so i got it out of my system early.


I don't get how dubstep became associated with 'hipterness'. I mean most of the hipsters I know in williamsburg and bushwick brooklyn where I live are definitely not into dubstep.

Rather, brostep seems to be like the urban outfitters of dance music.

When I first started seeming dubstep parties here in the city like 'Dub War', the people involved were definitely a subculture, but much more like junglists than hipsters.

http://dqxt.org/dubwar/

let's not confuse dub and grime with dubstep.

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Originally posted by nefardec When I first started seeming dubstep parties here in the city like 'Dub War', the people involved were definitely a subculture, but much more like junglists than hipsters. http://dqxt.org/dubwar/

I'd say that comes down to UK Garage (which dubstep eventually evolved out of) being one of the genres that came about from the jungle/drum n bass-exodus. Since the very beginning of jungle to the divide into drum n bass and UK Garage and its further subgenres, the music has always seemed to revolve around that urban inner city aesthetic, and attracted that kind of young crowd accordingly.

Impressed that Dub War is still around after six years. Too bad Love is such an awkward venue once it's filled up with punters.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J No, I think that's a fair assessment. I know dubstep has colonised alt-rock nights around here, and this is a plausible reason why. It doesn't completely explain dubstep's massive popularity, though.

Well, from what I've seen here in Atlanta, dubstep has essentially taken over the "hipster" (and I use that loosely, it's mostly just 20-somethings who really enjoy being ensconced in a "scene") sub-culture. There are areas in Atlanta, Little Five Points, Cabbagetown, that are gathering grounds for younger "alternative" people, and dubstep has really taken root in a big way in these areas. Like I said, I think a lot of this has to do with aesthetics.

These sorts of people seem to like things that are "dirty". That wobble bass is so RAW man, people just don't UNDERSTAND our MUSIC. That sort of mindset. Check this out:

http://www.heavyatl.com/

Seems to have just really found it's niche within that urban sub-culture. As for why it's popular on such a massive scale, I think a lot of people tend to gravitate towards music that sounds edgy because they think in some way it validates their tastes.

Or maybe it's the ADD

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Originally posted by enydo Like I said, I think a lot of this has to do with aesthetics. These sorts of people seem to like things that are "dirty". That wobble bass is so RAW man, people just don't UNDERSTAND our MUSIC. That sort of mindset. Check this out: http://www.heavyatl.com/

You can take that statement and substitute 'raw' and 'dirty' with any aesthetic belonging to any genre and it would stand.

eg

"These sorts of people seem to like things that are 'deep'. That wobble bass is so RAW man, people just don't UNDERSTAND our MUSIC. That sort of mindset."

As far as the high energy stuff goes - yeah, I think it's motivated by the same stuff as screamo. I think this is a much better comparison than 'heavy metal'. It's angsty, noisy, emotionally obvious.

Many people who like brostep from this group also seem to LOVE electroclash.

This is where brostep comes from - not from grime/dubstep. I'd say it's more of a stylistic fusion of dubstep and electroclash. Maybe all the hipsters are simply survivors of the electroclash wreck living on to wobble another day.

Check out the breaks around 2 min.

Oh, also can I do this here?

Starveling - Sutures by starveling

Martyn - Far Away (3024)
Indigo, Synkro - Alabama (On The Edge)
Jus Wan - Action Potential (Apple Pips)
TRG - They Know [TRG BerlinWall VIP] (Immerse Records)
Untold - Dante (Hotflush Recordings)
Likhan - Quiet Riot (7even Recordings)
Martyn - For Lost Relatives (Aus Music)
Joe - Rut (Hessle Audio)
L-Wiz - Prayer Room (Redvolume)
Headhunter - Prototypes (Tempa)
Scuba - Klinik (Hotflush Recordings)
Efdemin - Acid Bells [Martyn's Dark Mix] (M�tisse)
Jason Fine - Puttin It Out [A Made Up Sound Remix] (Kontra-Musik)
RSD - Over It (Tectonic)
Boxcutter - Philly (Hotflush Recordings)
XXXY - Science Friction (Formant Recordings)
Twisted - Draw Deep (Redvolume)

I never get to do that!

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Originally posted by enydo

oh shit... that remix of alabama blues! one of my fave oldies


this is a pretty damn good mix. i don't usually like sets that are exclusively one genre, be they deep house, dubstep, or whatever. this pretty damn good mix though!

the sounds and structure are basically deep tech house with a broken beat, better percussion and attention to detail in the mix in general.

Some of it actually reminds me of older broken beat detroit techno ala UR.

I can't stand idiots who knock other people for what they do YET can't do SHIT on their own. For people who think Skrillex sucks, please, give me a link to some of your own tracks, I would love to listen to some of your own badass shit, waiting!

Skrillex is fucking terrible. I don't produce (working on it), but you can check out my mix that's right up there ^ if you'd like!

Skrillex fucking sucks and he looks like a joke.



HEY GUYS, MY PARENTS LET ME BE PRETTY GOTH.

And if you think he's so good link me some of YOUR shit that PROVES to me just HOW GOOD you ARE so I KNOW whether I can trust YOUR OPINION or NOT.

WAITING!

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Originally posted by lukeache I can't stand idiots who knock other people for what they do YET can't do SHIT on their own. For people who think Skrillex sucks, please, give me a link to some of your own tracks, I would love to listen to some of your own badass shit, waiting!

Fantastic argument.

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Originally posted by lukeache I can't stand idiots who knock other people for what they do YET can't do SHIT on their own. For people who think Skrillex sucks, please, give me a link to some of your own tracks, I would love to listen to some of your own badass shit, waiting!

No! Don't click my sig, either. I'm deleting my sound-cloud account because of this argument. You win. I lose. I've totally just been served. Let me revise my criticism.









Shrillex, while having some genuinely good ideas, doesn't ever follow through on those which would make his tracks more listenable, instead reverting to base musical arguments which aren't entirely complete. And that's why he sucks.

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Originally posted by nefardec You can take that statement and substitute 'raw' and 'dirty' with any aesthetic belonging to any genre and it would stand. eg "These sorts of people seem to like things that are 'deep'. That wobble bass is so RAW man, people just don't UNDERSTAND our MUSIC. That sort of mindset."

Most genres aren't so popular, though. Rawness and dirtyness are transgressive, and kids love things that make them feel edgy, or that alienate their parents. Precious little music does that anymore.

It's nu-metal all over again.

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Originally posted by Sykonee It's nu-metal all over again.

What that Guy said about Garage in UK, evolving into DUBStep, precisely....

Its Wobble Drum and Bass slowed down, all Hardcore and Gabber like without the BPM

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Most genres aren't so popular, though. Rawness and dirtyness are transgressive, and kids love things that make them feel edgy, or that alienate their parents. Precious little music does that anymore.

people love anything that makes them feel special. especially generation entitlement.com

Each to their own. Everyone has their own taste in music its not up to me or other to decide what someone should listen to. Different strokes for different folks

I've listened to some brostep on youtube, and I don't like it, but its all personal preference. I'm not a big fan of a lot of Rusko tracks, but I think Rusko - Everyday (netsky remix) is a terrific track.

Skrillex is actually quite talented, he will even bigger than he is now, just watch and see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIZ0mUJzr0

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