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Originally posted by EgosXII its closed... did you actually sign up??

Yepp. Im in.

People.

PM me if you want an invitation.

I wonder why Google is being so stingy with registration for Plus at this point.

On the other hand, I could see an appeal in a social network that deliberately kept out the riff-raff (young teens, for example). That's part of why Facebook was initially so successful anyway. But certainly that virtue of FB is long gone...

"Google Made My Son Cry": http://sunpig.com/martin/archives/2011/07/03/google-made-my-son-cry.html

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Originally posted by Tasty Onions I wonder why Google is being so stingy with registration for Plus at this point.

probably because it sucks and is really flawed yet and they don't want millions of people to laugh at it and discount it and then switch back to their facebook tab.


The thing with facebook is that when it came out it did things no one did. The really useful thing about it was that it connected people at school socially. I was a freshman at cornell when it came out to the ivy league schools and at that point it was a way to meet people at school that had the same interests as you, and also every weekend it had a list of parties (before the cops started checking it). Anyone who wanted a social life at school (especially freshmen who were just getting to know each other) generally had a facebook. Eventually people got hooked on stalking each other, and kept using it, and facebook expanded to many schools. At first the networks were separate but then you were able to friend people from other schools, and people started to connect with kids they went to high school with.

So facebook had established a very devoted userbase who had a good functional reason to use the website.

Then they opened it up to everyone, and since there was a devoted userbase, it faciliated rapid growth and social interaction.

With google, they're just kind of making this thing and saying, come on in the water is fine. And the only people using it are the nerdiest members of society. It kind of worked with foursquare, but again, foursquare provided a useful social function which didn't exist.

I don't see what Google + offers that makes it indispensable to people.

Apparently all it offers is closed sharing circles, which facebook already does through privacy settings.

I think maybe the niche that would work for them is to create a social networking site that is perceived as acceptable for professional and academic networking. But that could also severely limit them.

Facebook at this point is rather like MySpace was, but much bigger and without any of the ugly customized layouts (which is an advantage not to be underestimated, hehe).

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Originally posted by nefardec Apparently all it offers is closed sharing circles, which facebook already does through privacy settings.

Yeah, that is one significant difference, IMO: the default in Plus is for things to be private, but in FB the default is for everything to be public.

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I think maybe the niche that would work for them is to create a social networking site that is perceived as acceptable for professional and academic networking. But that could also severely limit them.

Isn't that what Linkedin is for?

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...erson-on-google


linked in is more for sharing resumes and contacts. what i mean with professional and academic use for google+ is project collaboration and stuff.

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Originally posted by nefardec http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...erson-on-google linked in is more for sharing resumes and contacts. what i mean with professional and academic use for google+ is project collaboration and stuff.

LinkedIn is most certainly used for Academic and Professional social networking, why do you think they are centered around a "resume" type layout? Google Wave failed with their idea of project collaboration, but Google+ is supposed to be personal networking, so while it can be used for project collaboration, that's not what it's for at all.

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Originally posted by ziptnf LinkedIn is most certainly used for Academic and Professional social networking, why do you think they are centered around a "resume" type layout?

heads-up: don't say "centered around" on linkedin.

I can see this doing better than Wave and some of Google's previous failed projects. However, while it may provide some decent competition for Facebook in the long term, I don't see it becoming the number one choice of internet users unless, as Avana said, it provides some sort of "awesome" service that doesn't already exist. The one area that I can see Google do a great job of selling itself is the issue of privacy, but I don't think even that would have much of an impact, given that most of the people who have been upset at Facebook's privacy issues have been those of us nerdier folk.

Basically: meh.

Looks like Google is definitely putting more chips out there for Plus: the services Blogger and Picasa will now be integrated into Google+, rather than remaining separate entities:

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The transition from Picasa and Blogger to Google Photos and Google Blogs will occur �in a month to a month and a half,� we�ve been told. The date aligns with the likely public launch of Google+. Mashable has been told to expect the public debut of Google+ on or before July 31. The date is important because it�s the day all private Google Profiles will be deleted.

http://mashable.com/2011/07/05/goog...asa-rebranding/

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Originally posted by ziptnf LinkedIn is most certainly used for Academic and Professional social networking, why do you think they are centered around a "resume" type layout?

That's what I said in the post you quoted...

Basically Google+ is a glorified chat room. Or at best, social networking for cliques.

I think it's only practical to use it for special interests, like projects of any sort, fan clubs, groups, etc.

I think part of the fun of facebook is being able to share something to everyone (except those you don't want), and have friends from lots of different circles see what's going on in your life or interact with the same link you post, etc.

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Originally posted by nefardec probably because it sucks and is really flawed yet and they don't want millions of people to laugh at it and discount it and then switch back to their facebook tab. The thing with facebook is that when it came out it did things no one did. The really useful thing about it was that it connected people at school socially. I was a freshman at cornell when it came out to the ivy league schools and at that point it was a way to meet people at school that had the same interests as you, and also every weekend it had a list of parties (before the cops started checking it). Anyone who wanted a social life at school (especially freshmen who were just getting to know each other) generally had a facebook. Eventually people got hooked on stalking each other, and kept using it, and facebook expanded to many schools. At first the networks were separate but then you were able to friend people from other schools, and people started to connect with kids they went to high school with. So facebook had established a very devoted userbase who had a good functional reason to use the website. Then they opened it up to everyone, and since there was a devoted userbase, it faciliated rapid growth and social interaction.

Yes, we all watched The Social Network.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi Yes, we all watched The Social Network too.

never seen it

Decent movie, even if it did play fast and loose with the facts.

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Originally posted by Tasty Onions Decent movie...

Ok.

?

Nothing. I thought it sucked for a multitude of reasons and just felt like being a dick.

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Originally posted by bananas lol, "getting" that's like Stu "getting" bald

Nope...

Age is just a number so I'll be old when I feel old...

But I am on my way... Getting...

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Originally posted by nefardec are we talking about firsts or are we talking about the golden age of chat rooms?

That was my first, although I didn't join any afterwards...

I found it to be quite lame...

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Originally posted by idoru Nothing. I thought it sucked for a multitude of reasons and just felt like being a dick.

You dick.

Its awesome

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Originally posted by djkopernikus People. PM me if you want an invitation.

pmd!

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Originally posted by mr.bison Its awesome

actually looks like a nice app. It's cool that you can follow people without friending them, and I like the way the circles are implemented. Also according to that video, sharing is no different than facebook, except instead of calling it 'friend lists', they are called circles. It looks like the default is 'public'.

but really it looks like they've cloned facebook and added twitter functionality.

The one really awesome thing - ability to edit posts. Why didn't facebook ever implement that?

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