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I guess there really is something to be said for one's attitude/outlook toward the world around them.

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Originally posted by knowhope Schadenfreude?

Reporting for duty.

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Originally posted by Lira No wonder you think I'm a hippy, I come from the other end of the spectrum

Someone needs to do a TA spectrum of misanthropy.
Like a cool graph with Lira placing on the far left and Jay on the other side. Or PKC. Or me, as I'm Lira's evil twin brother .

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay Reporting for duty.

I was wondering if PKC is a person who just plainly hates people and don't mind them or that he would go far enough to have a guilty pleasure of enjoying peoples miseries.

So PKC, how far is it? What's the level of hatred.

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Originally posted by EgosXII Fighting fire with fire and whatnot

"Meaning

Respond to an attack by using a similar method as one's attacker"

What the fuck are you talking about?

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Originally posted by EgosXII standard comes from experience, contrary to what was learned (that people are good). I wasn't saying we remain indoctrinated (otherwise people would remain good). Hence my beautiful imagery of a cracking layer through which you can peer through, and be peered at through... I was merely offering an alternative to the people saying people are good, which is laughable. Fighting fire with fire and whatnot alsooooo: What I was really saying was if you assume people are bad you're more likely to be pleasantly suprised, than if you assume they're good, which will lead to perpetual dissapointment.

Quite on the contrary.

From an a priori perspective, it makes much more sense to assume we're neutral until proven otherwise, kicking both the warm and fuzzy optimism and the jaded misanthropic pessimism to the curb as hasty generalisations. All the upfucketry present in the world can be a sign that we're terrible just as the awesome things people have done throughout history show we're terrific, so that's a dead-end.

If, however, you stick to the facts, and read about moral psychology and primatology, a much more complicated picture emerges: we're extremely cooperative as social animals, and cheating often comes as a way to "make things even" when we feel we've been given the shaft for a reason or another. Psychopaths are a famous exception because they lack the necessary empathy to make cooperation successfully work but, in general, there's an overarching sense of moral we have (even if we can't agree upon the rules) because of how essential these systems are in social life. Frans de Waal has given us a very interesting account of how morality may have evolved, and there's also a trilogy compiled by Walter Sinnott-Armstrong about moral psychology that explore these issues quite well.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i wish i were more like you sometimes. but then some dickhead pisses me off and i remember why im not.

I'm often disappointed myself

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On That being said, I trust Strangers just fine. I mean, I sat on my hand for like 3 minutes straight; I know where it's been.

How about people who aren't organ donors? I'm not an organ donor because I don't want to donate my organs to people who don't want to donate their oragns. Come on people! Please keep public bathrooms clean, and donate your organs.

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Originally posted by -FSP- How about people who aren't organ donors? I'm not an organ donor because I don't want to donate my organs to people who don't want to donate their oragns. Come on people! Please keep public bathrooms clean, and donate your organs.

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Originally posted by Lira I donate my organs! I always donate my willy to those in need

explains the yellow text.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay explains the yellow text.

Ninja edit'd

Ff you want me to delete that post you'll have to play some Scatman on the Steinway.

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay Ff you want me to delete that post you'll have to play some Scatman on the Steinway.

I like it that way

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Originally posted by knowhope I was wondering if PKC is a person who just plainly hates people and don't mind them or that he would go far enough to have a guilty pleasure of enjoying peoples miseries. So PKC, how far is it? What's the level of hatred.

well, obviously i don't literally hate every person on the planet. that would be silly, given i have met only a small fraction of them. what i do mean however is that i dislike most people i do happen to meet, for one reason or another. i am very intolerant.

as far as other people's miseries go, i do take great pleasure in them, but only in a dark comedy kind of way. i don't like, say, seeing pictures of starving kids in africa or countries leveled by wars etc, but i will almost definitely make a (very funny) joke at their expense. in a perverse kind of way i find such comments are actually quite empathetic, because at the heart of the humour is the understanding that such situations are truly terrible. i make such jokes about close friends' horrible situations too, and claim the same degree of empathy. im clever like that

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, obviously i don't literally hate every person on the planet. that would be silly, given i have met only a small fraction of them. what i do mean however is that i dislike most people i do happen to meet, for one reason or another. i am very intolerant. as far as other people's miseries go, i do take great pleasure in them, but only in a dark comedy kind of way. i don't like, say, seeing pictures of starving kids in africa or countries leveled by wars etc, but i will almost definitely make a (very funny) joke at their expense. in a perverse kind of way i find such comments are actually quite empathetic, because at the heart of the humour is the understanding that such situations are truly terrible. i make such jokes about close friends' horrible situations too, and claim the same degree of empathy. im clever like that

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Everyone has instincts that they develop over time about how to read a person's intentions and whilst that should be trusted/acknowledged, I think that sometimes the energy that we put into something is what we are going to get out of it. If we think that everyone is a dodgy mofo trying to fuck us over well that's what we will see in others as we are searching for that you know?

Since travelling, I have to say that my opinion of people has changed so much AFTER my perspective changed. I thought the same thing - that everyone was out to rob me and I had to watch my shit all the time etc. But if you are just open to people and the possibilities of life then you will find people are so beautiful. I have hitchhiked and couchsurfed over Europe and 98% of people have been just amazingly helpful, friendly and really restored my faith in humankind.

Trust your instincts but also change your perspective to look for the beautiful in the world - I think that everything is about your perspective and energy you put out from yourself...

like most NYers, I'm usually shocked or completely put off by strangers; especially if they're too friendly, generous, or kind.

I remember meeting some German tourists who chatted with me, and even corrected some of my homework after seeing me studying on the train. Before leaving, they offered me their address, so I could visit. My reaction made it clear that I thought they were crazy for wanting to exchange such personal info with a complete stranger, despite our positive encounter, so we ended up just exchanging emails instead

The woman in the OP had it coming, just based on the law of averages.

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Originally posted by sparklefish Everyone has instincts that they develop over time about how to read a person's intentions and whilst that should be trusted/acknowledged, I think that sometimes the energy that we put into something is what we are going to get out of it. If we think that everyone is a dodgy mofo trying to fuck us over well that's what we will see in others as we are searching for that you know?

And sometimes people who are full of fluffy rainbow optimism (like the girl in the story I linked) still get fucked over.

The world is indifferent like that.

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Originally posted by Tasty Onions And sometimes people who are full of fluffy rainbow optimism (like the girl in the story I linked) still get fucked over. The world is indifferent like that.

*nods* I agree - at some point in our lives we are all going to be fucked over whether we are super open to others or super closed - it is inevitable. So might as well be open however not naive so you can be open to all of the good stuff too that you will miss out on if you are so closed?

I did an ocular pat down and cleared him for passage.

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Originally posted by Chris Crossland I did an ocular pat down and cleared him for passage.

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Originally posted by sparklefish *nods* I agree - at some point in our lives we are all going to be fucked over whether we are super open to others or super closed - it is inevitable. So might as well be open however not naive so you can be open to all of the good stuff too that you will miss out on if you are so closed?

Pretty muuch this. Putting up defenses keeps out the good as well as the bad. Just learn to deal with getting hurt, and how to spot scumbags, but leave yourself open to all the good shit.

Which is better, expecting everyone to screw you over and live your life cut off from people, or leave yourself open and occasionally get nailed? I'd much rather the latter.

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Originally posted by sparklefish *nods* I agree - at some point in our lives we are all going to be fucked over whether we are super open to others or super closed - it is inevitable. So might as well be open however not naive so you can be open to all of the good stuff too that you will miss out on if you are so closed?

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Originally posted by WittyHandle Pretty muuch this. Putting up defenses keeps out the good as well as the bad. Just learn to deal with getting hurt, and how to spot scumbags, but leave yourself open to all the good shit. Which is better, expecting everyone to screw you over and live your life cut off from people, or leave yourself open and occasionally get nailed? I'd much rather the latter.

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