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Posted by The Rattler on Sep-09-2011 15:48:

I've actually played with some of those guys. Hurts to see how it ends for them.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Sep-09-2011 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Ferg
English lessons nice

Yeah Trance...

Long story short, small companies or not, Russia allowed this to happen so it doesn't really make a difference. Its to bad it took and entire Hockey team to make a change.

Just to go back on your earlier comment... Russia for sure has more plane fatalities then any other "developed" country over the past 10 years. The fact that you wanted me to compare it to a cumulative world crash number says something. So ya in that case you are right, Russia has less air related fatalities then the entire world combined over the past 10 years GJ! voila un biscuit! LA!

How could you hate on me after I praised the women, dill, and perogies. 3 compliments to 1 insult


how's a crash a year the highest record, anywhere? I still do not see any solid proof, statistics or anything else backing what you're saying atm

and yes thank you for the dill compliments, you're funny!

either way, I'd like to point out that the problem is on a much more global level, it doesn't start or end at the age/condition of the planes unfortunately

also interestingly enough no one here blamed the pilots just yet.. another forum I frequent, that's all they've been talking about - assuming the pilots were drunk or incompetent..


Posted by geroin on Sep-09-2011 16:02:

US crashes in the last 10 years.


31/01/2000 McDonnell Douglas MD-80/90 Alaska Airlines N963AS (MSN 53077)

Anacapa Island, USA 88
05/03/2000 Boeing 737 Southwest Airlines N668SW (MSN 23060)

Burbank, USA 0
25/05/2000 McDonnell Douglas MD-80/90 Continental Airlines N16884 (MSN 48074)

Newark, USA 0
22/09/2000 Boeing 767 US Airways N654US (MSN 25225)

Philadelphia, USA 0
23/05/2001 Fokker 70/100 American Airlines N1419D (MSN 11402)

Dallas, USA 0
11/09/2001 Boeing 757 American Airlines N644AA (MSN 24602)

Washington, USA 64
11/09/2001 Boeing 757 United Airlines N591UA (MSN 28142)

Somerset, USA 44
11/09/2001 Boeing 767 United Airlines N612UA (MSN 21873)

New York, USA 65
11/09/2001 Boeing 767 American Airlines N334AA (MSN 22332)

New York, USA 92
12/11/2001 Airbus A300 American Airlines N14053 (MSN 420)

Belle Harbor, USA 260
28/08/2002 Airbus A320 America West Airlines N635AW (MSN 91)

Phoenix airport, USA 0
18/01/2003 Embraer 135/145 American Eagle N714BZ (MSN 260)

Columbus, USA 0
14/10/2004 Canadair Regional Jet Pinnacle Airlines N8396A (MSN 7396)

Jefferson City, USA 2
08/12/2005 Boeing 737 Next Gen Southwest Airlines N471WN (MSN 32471)

Chicago, USA 0
27/08/2006 Canadair Regional Jet Comair (Delta Connection) N431CA (MSN 7472)

Lexington-Blue Grass Airport, USA 49
20/12/2008 Boeing 737 Continental Airlines N18611 (MSN 27324)

Denver, USA 0
15/01/2009 Airbus A320 US Airways N106US (MSN 1044)

Hudson River, USA 0
27/01/2009 ATR 42/72 Federal Express N902FX (MSN 175)

Lubbock Preston Smith International Airport, USA 0
12/02/2009 Dash 8 Colgan Air N200WQ (MSN 4200)

Buffalo, USA 49


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Sep-09-2011 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin


can you list the number of russian plane crashes in the last ten years?


Posted by geroin on Sep-09-2011 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
can you list the number of russian plane crashes in the last ten years?


i tried looking that up, i only find top deadliest ones and there are a few


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Sep-09-2011 18:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay
and blind nationalism is so 1956.


i dont know about that. one of the top 3 things keeping me sane for the past 19 years.

quote:
-April 10, 2010: All 96 people aboard a Russian Tupolev 154 carrying Poland's president and other top Polish officials die when the presidential jet crashes near Smolensk.


that had nothing to do with Russian planes or Russian airlines. actually theres a recording from the black box, you oughta listen to it.


Posted by evil_cookie on Sep-09-2011 18:36:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
US crashes in the last 10 years.


O rly?

quote:
The top ten safest airlines in the world are mostly based in the U.S. or Europe, according to a report from the Air Transport Rating Agency. Six of the 10 safest airlines -- AMR's American Airlines and American Eagle connection, Continental, Delta, Southwest, United and US Airways -- are based in the U.S. The three safest European carriers were Air France-KLM, British Airways and Lufthansa. Japan Airlines is the safest carrier in Asia, the report said.

The Geneva-based agency said it compared publicly available data on 100 on the world's largest airlines and winnowed the list down using 15 different criteria, including fleet age, pilot training facilities, and the number of accidents during the past 10 years.


source

Now stop embarrassing yourselves and take your misplaced nationalism elsewhere.


Posted by geroin on Sep-09-2011 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by evil_cookie
O rly?



source

Now stop embarrassing yourselves and take your misplaced nationalism elsewhere.



sorry, i made that list up.


http://www.airsafe.com/events/us_ten.htm


Posted by Xavier Moriarty on Sep-09-2011 18:55:

nothing wrong with being proud of who you are and where did you come from !!


Posted by GGM on Sep-09-2011 19:31:

If you're flying on an international airline, you're going to be safe. I'll give each person that's already posted here $100 if they die while flying on an international airline of any nationality. So rest assured.

Here's a list of worlwide causes of death by odds, with the most likely at the top:

Cardiovascular diseases
Infectious_and_parasitic diseases
Ischemic heart disease
Malignant_neoplasms_(cancers)
Cerebrovascular disease_(Stroke)
Respiratory infections
Lower respiratory tract infections
Respiratory diseases
Unintentional injuries
HIV/AIDS
Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
Perinatal_conditions
Digestive diseases
Diarrhea_diseases
Intentional injuries (Suicide,_Violence,_War, etc.)
Tuberculosis
Malaria
Lung cancers
Road traffic accidents
Childhood diseases
Neuropsychiatric_disorders
Diabetes mellitus
Hypertensive heart disease
Suicide
Stomach cancer
Diseases of the_genitourinary system
Cirrhosis_of the_liver
Nephritis/nephropathy
Colorectal cancer
Liver cancer
Measles
Violence
Maternal conditions
Congenital abnormalities
Nutritional deficiencies
Breast cancer
Esophageal cancer
Inflammatory heart disease
Alzheimer's disease_and other_dementias
Falls
Drowning
Poisoning
Lymphomas,_multiple myeloma
Rheumatic heart disease
Oral_and_oropharynx cancers
Fires
Pertussis
Prostate cancer
Leukemia
Peptic ulcer disease
Protein-energy malnutrition
Endocrine/nutritional disorders
Asthma
Cervical cancer
Pancreatic cancer
Tetanus
Sexually transmitted diseases_excluding HIV/AIDS
Bladder cancer
Meningitis
War
Syphilis
Neoplasms_other than_malignant
Iron deficiency anemia
Ovarian cancer
Tropical diseases_excluding malaria
Epilepsy
Musculoskeletal diseases
Hepatitis B
Parkinson's disease
Alcohol use disorders
Drug use_disorders
Upper respiratory infections
Uterine cancer
Skin diseases
Melanoma_and other_skin cancers
Hepatitis C
Leishmaniasis
Trypanosomiasis
Benign prostatic hyperplasia

See flying on there? It's because truth be told not many people die from it. So ya your odds might be higher on a Russian airline than a North American one, but that's still not very high. Peeps need to stop being pussies about it.


Posted by Kamka on Sep-10-2011 18:06:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin
US crashes in the last 10 years.

Dallas, USA 0
11/09/2001 Boeing 757 American Airlines N644AA (MSN 24602)

Washington, USA 64
11/09/2001 Boeing 757 United Airlines N591UA (MSN 28142)

Somerset, USA 44
11/09/2001 Boeing 767 United Airlines N612UA (MSN 21873)

New York, USA 65
11/09/2001 Boeing 767 American Airlines N334AA (MSN 22332)



I don't know man, listing the 9/11 crashes as part of these statistics seems a bit... inappropriate for me, considering that it is widely accepted that these planes were hijacked by the "mujahedeen". Unless you believe that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, in which case it does not contradict the presumption that the whole thing was staged (prepared) well ahead of time and was therefore no accident.


Posted by Ferg on Sep-10-2011 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Kamka
I don't know man, listing the 9/11 crashes as part of these statistics seems a bit... inappropriate for me, considering that it is widely accepted that these planes were hijacked by the "mujahedeen". Unless you believe that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, in which case it does not contradict the presumption that the whole thing was staged (prepared) well ahead of time and was therefore no accident.


10 years tomorrow. Could be an interesting day.


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