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Posted by nefardec on Sep-18-2011 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You're not getting this "I don't give a fuck about what you think someone else's opinion might be" concept, are you? Let me repeat it, for clarity:

I don't give a fuck what you think someone else's opinion might be.



Posted by srussell0018 on Sep-18-2011 01:49:

I heard these songs are going to be pretty big this year:





Except they're both so linear and uniform. Osterzone probably won't listen to them.


Posted by EddieZilker on Sep-18-2011 02:30:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018


This brings back fond memories.


Posted by mehta on Sep-18-2011 02:40:

really there are microcosmic scenes all over the place and coolness is based on geography

for our gang it's all about live sets or a mix of bands and DJs. but what makes it cool is much more than the music, it's about the environment and crowd just as much (obviously that's true everywhere)

for youtubers and forum people, dubstep/2-step/future bass is obviously where it's at - most of the best stuff is in this camp right now. gotta be a pretty clever DJ to keep the crowd rocking with that sound though.

@nefardec: mostly like those tracks. hadn't heard much of that. I'd say a lot of the witchy/punky "house" is basically no-wave


Posted by Syntonic on Sep-18-2011 07:13:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
NO PROBLEM AUSTIN DENOBLE

I ACTUALLY LIKE 'PHOENIX' THE BEST ON THE ALBUM



I THINK THIS MUSIC SHOULD BE CALLED DUBWAVE OR NUSTEP




Wow this really surprised me, what a unique sound.



Gotta agree with System-J, love drum & bass especially the liquid style. Also I feel that its the only genre that doesn't take itself too seriously and has not been bastardized.

When did the liquid d'n'b actually peak anyways? I didn't realize people still produced it. The LM1 - Redshift album is the fucking shit.


Posted by Taipan on Sep-18-2011 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J

Drum 'n bass. Obviously.


I'm not sure if your are being serious but I actually think DnB and Breakbeats are going to be the next "cool" thing.


Posted by djdk on Sep-18-2011 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Taipan
I'm not sure if your are being serious but I actually think DnB and Breakbeats are going to be the next "cool" thing.


Breakbeats have ALWAYS been cool my freind


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-18-2011 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Syntonic
When did the liquid d'n'b actually peak anyways? I didn't realize people still produced it. The LM1 - Redshift album is the fucking shit.


Lm1 doesn't make liquid, he makes atmospheric. Liquid would be High Contrast, Hospitality Records, Lenzman, Bachelors Of Science, etc.

Drum 'n bass is where everything is at. It has major mainstream players like Pendulum, Chase & Status, Sub Focus, so all the 18 year old kids are listening to it. In the minimal/Autonomic movement it's got the newest breakout sound in dance music, so it scores all the cool points there. It's got incredible variety, from hard and aggressive neurofunk to soulful liquid funk to spacey atmospheric to the experimental line-blurring sounds of guys like ASC, Sabre and Antibreak. It's grown past the militant '90s image - girls love it again, so you can't play the "It's just male geek music" card against it. It's even coming out with great artist albums - my favourite albums of 2011 and 2010 were drum 'n bass, so it's artistically accomplished on all fronts.

And the best part is that you can instantly tell who's an out-of-date, clueless dickhead with no finger on the pulse because they won't have any idea what's happening in the scene and will start muttering about amen breaks. Drum 'n bass is so cool you don't even know it's cool yet.


Posted by nefardec on Sep-18-2011 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Lm1 doesn't make liquid, he makes atmospheric. Liquid would be High Contrast, Hospitality Records, Lenzman, Bachelors Of Science, etc.

Drum 'n bass is where everything is at. It has major mainstream players like Pendulum, Chase & Status, Sub Focus, so all the 18 year old kids are listening to it. In the minimal/Autonomic movement it's got the newest breakout sound in dance music, so it scores all the cool points there. It's got incredible variety, from hard and aggressive neurofunk to soulful liquid funk to spacey atmospheric to the experimental line-blurring sounds of guys like ASC, Sabre and Antibreak. It's grown past the militant '90s image - girls love it again, so you can't play the "It's just male geek music" card against it. It's even coming out with great artist albums - my favourite albums of 2011 and 2010 were drum 'n bass, so it's artistically accomplished on all fronts.

And the best part is that you can instantly tell who's an out-of-date, clueless dickhead with no finger on the pulse because they won't have any idea what's happening in the scene and will start muttering about amen breaks. Drum 'n bass is so cool you don't even know it's cool yet.


i don't think it will be cooler in a larger way simply because of the tempo. i believe the klf would have something to say about this.


quote:
Originally posted by mehta
@nefardec: mostly like those tracks. hadn't heard much of that. I'd say a lot of the witchy/punky "house" is basically no-wave


You know, I think you're right. Except it lacks a lot of the multidisciplinary aspects of that scene. Maybe call it 'Now-Wave'.


Posted by rdevito on Sep-18-2011 16:09:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J

Drum 'n bass is where everything is at. It has major mainstream players like Pendulum, Chase & Status, Sub Focus, so all the 18 year old kids are listening to it.


Nice, just because Pendulum is mainstream it means they're bad. C'mon these guys have nice tracks and i think they are pretty creative too, i prefer listen Liquid tho


Posted by Trance-M on Sep-18-2011 19:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Taipan
I'm not sure if your are being serious but I actually think DnB and Breakbeats are going to be the next "cool" thing.


Please call me when it is, otherwise it's over before I even noticed it. ('N-Trance - Set me free' should be re-released however)


Posted by Redd on Sep-18-2011 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by rdevito
Nice, just because Pendulum is mainstream it means they're bad. C'mon these guys have nice tracks and i think they are pretty creative too, i prefer listen Liquid tho


Where did he write anything about Pendulum being bad? You're reading into it.

As usual your posts are absolute dwabble.


Posted by Pecavi on Sep-18-2011 22:06:

May i suggest The Embers Breaks ?
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Posted by srussell0018 on Sep-19-2011 00:13:

Embers Breaks in 2012.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Sep-19-2011 03:27:

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
i don't think it will be cooler in a larger way simply because of the tempo. i believe the klf would have something to say about this.


Pendulum have had a UK #1 album, Chase & Status have had a UK #2 album. What other genre of dance music can claim that in the last five years?


Posted by Syntonic on Sep-19-2011 04:34:

Yeah I'm totally lost when it comes to genres.

Now it's only a matter of time before Jay-Z comes out of retirement again and raps over a drum&bass track and people think he's so innovative.

I'm surprise no one has tapped into it to fast-track their career; especially the black community being the majority that started Jungle.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Sep-19-2011 12:38:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Pendulum have had a UK #1 album, Chase & Status have had a UK #2 album. What other genre of dance music can claim that in the last five years?


David Guetta?
http://thelavalizard.com/2011/09/ch...-top-10-debuts/


Posted by stev� on Sep-19-2011 13:19:

system-j, thanks for the heads up on dnb. could've done without the speculative bickering though. id like to see girls dancing to 2011 dnb, wheres the youtube of that? At future sound of breaks and world of dnb in miami a couple years ago all i saw was 90's militant vibe still, with dudes wearing camouflage hoodies and candy raver girls. so its changed drastically in a few short years?

i agree with meriter, there always seemed to be internet dance music, and actual club dance music.


Posted by Woony on Sep-19-2011 13:48:

No idea why nobody has mentioned Techno yet. You obviously gotta listen to STROBOSCOPIC ARTEFACTS all day long until you get the complex geometrical structures no mortal listener would understand.


Posted by A.B on Sep-19-2011 15:28:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J

Drum 'n bass is where everything is at.


Not the case North of the border.
Everyone still into the Deradmau5, David Guetta, Afrojack nonsense.

Such a pity because Scotland once had it's own huge rave scene that was miles ahead of anything else in the UK at the time.


Posted by Mr Game+Watch on Sep-19-2011 15:33:

Is that whole Marcy rooftop party/Culprit LA/Wolf+Lamb sound still big? That stuff wasn't bad...


Posted by Taipan on Sep-19-2011 16:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch
Is that whole Marcy rooftop party/Culprit LA/Wolf+Lamb sound still big? That stuff wasn't bad...


That's whats hot right now. DnB is the NEXT wave of hip. Fads can't stay cool forever.


Posted by Taipan on Sep-19-2011 16:20:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Pendulum have had a UK #1 album, Chase & Status have had a UK #2 album. What other genre of dance music can claim that in the last five years?


One way to describe "cool" is the exact opposite of mainstream.

Not to say I don't agree with you, but you're hurting your own case.


Posted by rdevito on Sep-19-2011 16:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
Where did he write anything about Pendulum being bad? You're reading into it.

As usual your posts are absolute dwabble.


Now i see, i misread the post. Very sorry for that.

No need for being rude, Redd.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Sep-19-2011 17:00:

extratone


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