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Posted by lounger540 on Sep-25-2011 03:39:

I swear, I don't know how dumb people can be sometimes. This is a quick way to rally more support AGAINST the establishment and the police. Don't they know they're being taped 24/7 these days? I wonder how much the protesters take before it turns into a riot against the police.

Edit:
Story hit the front page of Al Jazeera English http://english.aljazeera.net/news/a...3845281801.html


Posted by edubbz on Sep-25-2011 15:57:

"A RIOT IS THE LANGUAGE OF THE UNHEARD"


Posted by DJ Eco on Sep-25-2011 19:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Fist Pump
Maybe if they went to work instead of hang out in the street they wouldn't be so poor?

Although I am kinda pissed the .99 bags of chips are a 1.09 now. Thanks a lot wall street.



I have a 50-hour workweek at an office job and spent part of my weekend at this protest; it's not the $1.09 chips I'm fighting for, and I'm definitely not there because I have nothing better to do.

"Occupy Wall Street" is as much a shout of anger at Wall Street as it is a shout of anger at out country's society and work culture today.

When did our 9-to-5 jobs turn into 9-to-6? And then the 9-to-6 job turned into "9-to-6 but don't be the first one to leave the office because we're watching you, so stay until 6:450 or 7:00"? When did we accept paycuts and cuts in overtime and benefits because they convinced us "we're lucky to have a job"?

Just because the ONE article on the New York Times about this week-long march tells you "they don't have a message", doesn't mean that's true.

There wasn't ONE single law Martin Luther King Jr.'s march on Washington was targeting, it was a general movement by people of all backgrounds that told our government that things need to change.

Don't belittle the movement because the New York Times or Fox News told you to, that would be very short-sighted and ignorant if you thought for a second who owns and supports the New York Times and Fox News.

A few thousand people demonstrate on the streets of Libya and Egypt and it's thrown up on the news for 3 hours a day.


Posted by AY STAR on Sep-26-2011 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco

There wasn't ONE single law Martin Luther King Jr.'s march on Washington was targeting, it was a general movement by people of all backgrounds that told our government that things need to change.



yup, very few people know that when he died he was actually fighting for better conditions for sanitation workers, he stood for everyday people
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/...000/2453987.stm


Posted by matt167698 on Sep-27-2011 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
I have a 50-hour workweek at an office job and spent part of my weekend at this protest; it's not the $1.09 chips I'm fighting for, and I'm definitely not there because I have nothing better to do.

"Occupy Wall Street" is as much a shout of anger at Wall Street as it is a shout of anger at out country's society and work culture today.

When did our 9-to-5 jobs turn into 9-to-6? And then the 9-to-6 job turned into "9-to-6 but don't be the first one to leave the office because we're watching you, so stay until 6:450 or 7:00"? When did we accept paycuts and cuts in overtime and benefits because they convinced us "we're lucky to have a job"?

Just because the ONE article on the New York Times about this week-long march tells you "they don't have a message", doesn't mean that's true.

There wasn't ONE single law Martin Luther King Jr.'s march on Washington was targeting, it was a general movement by people of all backgrounds that told our government that things need to change.

Don't belittle the movement because the New York Times or Fox News told you to, that would be very short-sighted and ignorant if you thought for a second who owns and supports the New York Times and Fox News.

A few thousand people demonstrate on the streets of Libya and Egypt and it's thrown up on the news for 3 hours a day.



Hey Eco - Great to hear you were down there over the weekend and let people know that yes there are full-time employed people with "real" jobs who support this movement.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Sep-27-2011 13:32:

marcello be safe if you plan on attending again

i'm so torn over this issue, i've been following anonymous for a while now, reading twitter, and following all articles pertaining to these events. i sympathize with the message yet i don't want to be on any of these videos, nor do I condone what the nypd is doing, even worse is my brother in law is a cop specifically in manhattan south so it's his district. he's in the office now from an incident during the PR Day Parade, so I watch this in horror as well as in defense of those protesting.

OccupyChi is up and running and I hear Trump's building has a group out in front.

In all honesty, between london riots, mid-east, sf bart, now boston and chicago, it's all too familiar that these occupations are coordinated in such an organized manner. ask yourself, what's really going on?


Posted by SebG on Sep-27-2011 15:29:

Just read this

Report: 100 New York Police Officers Boycott In Solidarity with Wall Street Protesters

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011...protesters.html


Posted by DJ Eco on Sep-28-2011 05:13:

Honestly, I'll be the first one to say it sucks that the cops are stuck in the middle of sticky situations like these. Cops are getting fucked by "the man" as much as most of us, if not more. They make less a year than some of the peeps out there marching.

I also do agree that too many people are looking for problems too. So many people are just there with Flips and iPhones trying to get something, ANYTHING, out of it that can be deemed controversial. This is the case with most demonstrations post-2005, and I've been to a good number of them throughout the past few years. Our obsession with social media is both a blessing and a curse. Half the kids my age are standing around like zombies staring at their phone screen and barely participating in the marches or chants.

Anyway there's the obvious cases over the weekend where I think everyone agrees the cops FUCKED UP. However, we can't even begin to equate them with the dark forces that are ruining this country, and to do so is just dumb and completely missing the point. How many first responders haven't received any medical help for symptoms suffered on 9/11? How many cops are getting their pensions cut and salaries lowered? They're in the same boat we are getting fucked by the same people and policies that we are.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Sep-29-2011 14:06:

SHIT IS GETTING REAL!

quote:

The NYPD has given extra personal security to Deputy Inspector Anthony Bologna, who was caught on multiple videos pepper-spraying protesters around Union Square last weekend, in response to his personal information being released by Anonymous. Bologna, who is now being investigated by the NYPD's Internal Affairs Bureau and by the Civilian Complaint Review Board, has been reportedly receiving death threats and harassing calls at his home. Police are also providing extra security to his family.

Since the incident went viral online, the CCRB has been inundated with calls and e-mails about it�more than 400�to the point that "staffers had to come up with a special system for categorizing and processing them."

Before the CCRB and IAB's investigations can even get off the ground, the NYPD is going to be hearing a lot more about Bologna's actions. The regularly scheduled, and open to the public, 1st Precinct Community Council meeting�which is held on the last Thursday of each month�just happens to be set to occur tonight at 6:30 at the First Precinct at 16 Ericsson Place. Then on Friday, at 4 p.m., a "Protest Against Police Harassment, Brutality & Attacks," sponsored by the Bail Out the People Movement, is scheduled to be held in Zuccotti Park.

http://gothamist.com/2011/09/29/pep..._death_thre.php


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Sep-29-2011 20:18:

a shitstorm is brewing

TWU - Transit Workers Union joins protestors and it looks like Verizon as well...

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-ma...9#ixzz1ZMCVj1LP

quote:


A Massive Union Just Voted To Side With The Wall Street Protesters
Linette Lopez | Sep. 29, 2011, 10:30 AM | 19,839 | 62


According to Daily Kos, The New York Transit Workers Union (TWU) voted to support the Wall Street Protestors at their meeting last night.

A member of TWU Local 100 told a reporter that they would join the protest Friday at 4PM.

Here's more about them from their website:

The TWU has four main divisions: Railroad; Gaming; Airline; Transit; and Utility, University and Service. The Union has 114 autonomous locals representing over 200,000 members and retirees in 22 states around the country.

Occupy Wall Street has been picking up some decent support from unions in the past few days. Yesterday we reported that the Teamsters Union declared their support for protestors, and we also found out that the United Pilots Union had members at the protest demonstrating in uniform.

Today we learned the Industrial Workers of the World put a message of support on their website as well.

UPDATE: Verizon union workers have joined the protestors in NYC.

Click here to see the protestor's list of demands >

All of this is good for the protestors, sure, but the bottom line is whether or not these unions can produce bodies. Experience says that when they want to, unions can be quite good at doing that very thing.

And it seems that they're interested. In many of their statements of support, they say that their members are part of "The 99%" that Occupy Wall Street protestors keep talking about.

But what does that even mean? Naturally, we had to get to the bottom of it, so we found the We Are The 99% blog. It's made of a collection of pictures people holding up signs about how the sorry state of the economy has effected them. Here are some examples:

A guy in a lab coat with a stethoscope around his neck (you can't see his face) holds a sign saying: "Ivy League medical student over 100,000 in debt committed to a life of helping the homeless and mentally ill. We are the 99%."
Another girl holds a sign saying: "They say you can be anything you want if you work hard enough. The truth is you can only be what you want if you can pay enough. Only 20 and already drowning in debt because I want to follow my dreams. I am the 99%."
Another woman holds up a sign saying: "I'm a single mom of four, college graduate 3.6 GPA, shelf stocker, I go hungry daily, I am the 99%. Occupy Wall Street.

Now for your protest update: When we checked in on the live feed around 9:30 this morning, the protestors were marching, playing drums and chanting: "All day, all week occupy Wall Street!"

A cop briefly interrupted them and told them that they were "invited" to stay on the sidewalk and the drumming continued to the sound of applause cheers of "YAY the sidewalk!"

Also, good old Michael Moore will be giving an interview from the protest tonight on MSNBC at 8 PM.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-ma...9#ixzz1ZNHy7xTY


Posted by Stassi on Sep-29-2011 20:51:

that list of their demands is pretty ridiculous.


Posted by cl0wnz0r on Sep-29-2011 21:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
that list of their demands is pretty ridiculous.


"Widespread debt forgiveness"


Posted by matt167698 on Sep-30-2011 05:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
that list of their demands is pretty ridiculous.


The list hasn't been voted on yet. I don't even see a list on their website. Source for "widespread debt forgiveness"?


Posted by cl0wnz0r on Sep-30-2011 06:40:

quote:
Originally posted by matt167698
The list hasn't been voted on yet. I don't even see a list on their website. Source for "widespread debt forgiveness"?


it's in the link above --> http://www.businessinsider.com/fina...l-street-2011-9


Posted by edubbz on Sep-30-2011 13:20:

this goes out to all of those that believe they aren't being affected by this countries' economy and way of governing and that the world is still flat, simply bc they have a job (as of now) that's maintaining them...don't spoil yourself!! bc if you were to be laid off or fired...you think it will be easy for you to find a job right after? and if you luckily do, do you think it will be anything close to what you have now (salary base, schedule/hours, etc)?

EVERYONEEEEEEE that's not part of that "1%", which i'm sure is everyone on this board and their mother, should be involved in this..unless you're shitting out $$ and have several mansions off the shore around the world with a private jet to get there while the person next to you is struggling to pay their rent.

btw, just to clear things up...i may seem bitter bc i sound butthurt but, thankfully, i have a respectable job with a good pay thats under contract by the state..however, my life would be much better if it weren't being taken advantage of in a country where im producing to help out the economy for it to come back and bite me in the ass!


Posted by matt167698 on Sep-30-2011 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by cl0wnz0r
it's in the link above --> http://www.businessinsider.com/fina...l-street-2011-9


Thanks - seems to be based on this article which was written on Tuesday: http://nplusonemag.com/occupywallstreet

When I was down at the General Assembly on Wednesday I heard they were still drawing up potential demands which will be voted on this weekend. So some of these may very well become official but I'm pretty sure these aren't. Even the n+1 article says, "I agreed to take notes, and as we talked wrote down the following list of potential demands"


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Sep-30-2011 14:02:

why you a salty ass nigga edubbz?


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Sep-30-2011 17:08:

RADIOHEAD PLAYING OCCUPYWALLST RALLY TODAY AT 4

http://anonops.blogspot.com/


http://gothamist.com/2011/09/30/rumor_alert_radiohead_playing_occup.php


Posted by Frequency Frank on Oct-01-2011 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by EarnYourKeep
RADIOHEAD PLAYING OCCUPYWALLST RALLY TODAY AT 4

http://anonops.blogspot.com/


http://gothamist.com/2011/09/30/rum...aying_occup.php


Nothing like Occupy leaking a hoax to get more people to show up to the protest. Event announced at 11:30. Refuted by Radiohead's management by noon. Occupy didn't say it was fake until 4:30. Do the math.


Posted by DJ Eco on Oct-02-2011 03:44:

quote:
Originally posted by cl0wnz0r
it's in the link above --> http://www.businessinsider.com/fina...l-street-2011-9


One biased niche blogsite quoting some other niche personal (somebody's) blogsite is not what any intelligent person should call "reporting". Those list of demands are some bullshit notes the guy jotted down from hearsay.

The "reporting" (I don't even think we should give it the honor of calling it that) on this demonstration has been absolutely ridiculous. [Insert large media outlet here] interviews [insert odd hipster Williamsburg character from Northwestern State here] and generates an entire story full of oddball quotes and pictures. Obviously, they're not going to report any of the intelligent informed people they spoke to there, and obviously they're going to spend hours weeding through their photos for the most wacky and colorful pictures they can put on their site. Articles like these show how the media world are DIRECTLY and proactively fighting the demonstration, it's unbelievable.

Business Insider really has the balls to base an entire article and give source credit as "Source: n+1", what the fuck is n+1? Sadly, they're not the only ones doing this kind of "reporting".

It's like Yahoo! Sports quoting some guy's blog about what tactics he thinks the New York Giants are going going to take in this week's game, and headlining it "Tom Coughlin's strategies for this week's game."


Posted by ramsau on Oct-02-2011 03:47:


Posted by DJ Eco on Oct-02-2011 04:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Frequency Frank
Nothing like Occupy leaking a hoax to get more people to show up to the protest. Event announced at 11:30. Refuted by Radiohead's management by noon. Occupy didn't say it was fake until 4:30. Do the math.



Yeah that was dirty, and left a bad taste in my mouth, not cool... "Beginners' mistake" as they say it; the organizers, if you can call them that, are regular everyday young people, very energetic, but yes, not so organized. They're certainly learning more and more each day and having the unions on their side is certainly going to help.


Posted by cl0wnz0r on Oct-02-2011 08:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
One biased niche blogsite quoting some other niche personal (somebody's) blogsite is not what any intelligent person should call "reporting". Those list of demands are some bullshit notes the guy jotted down from hearsay.

The "reporting" (I don't even think we should give it the honor of calling it that) on this demonstration has been absolutely ridiculous. [Insert large media outlet here] interviews [insert odd hipster Williamsburg character from Northwestern State here] and generates an entire story full of oddball quotes and pictures. Obviously, they're not going to report any of the intelligent informed people they spoke to there, and obviously they're going to spend hours weeding through their photos for the most wacky and colorful pictures they can put on their site. Articles like these show how the media world are DIRECTLY and proactively fighting the demonstration, it's unbelievable.

Business Insider really has the balls to base an entire article and give source credit as "Source: n+1", what the fuck is n+1? Sadly, they're not the only ones doing this kind of "reporting".

It's like Yahoo! Sports quoting some guy's blog about what tactics he thinks the New York Giants are going going to take in this week's game, and headlining it "Tom Coughlin's strategies for this week's game."


yea, the wording made it clear it was BS. i would love to see an organized list of actual demands, but it seems that will take them a few more weeks.


Posted by Konijn on Oct-02-2011 12:15:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco

Business Insider really has the balls to base an entire article and give source credit as "Source: n+1", what the fuck is n+1? Sadly, they're not the only ones doing this kind of "reporting".


n+1 a quarterly magazine of culture, news, and literature. it's put together by very smart people, most of whom are intellectually sympathetic to the protest.


Posted by diabloargentino on Oct-02-2011 13:18:

the funny thing is that not one person on wall street gives a crap about the protestors - a few buddies of mine that work in the wall street/world financial area say it's just been a source of entertainment for the past few days.


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