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I'll say something before this thread get closed (please close it).
The US economy is doing bad, they had this plan of destroying Iraq a while ago but didn't feel the urge to do it since the economy was doing good. Everyone was making money, why the fuck care aboout shitty ("put any nationality here")?
Ok now no one is making money, and they wants something to divert peoples attention and create jobs at the same time. Easy just declare a war! ANYONE, just CREATE A WAR!!! Who gives a shit about Saddam? or the Iraki people during the last 10 years? This people has been starving to FUCKING DEATH! DYING of stuff no one has died off since centuries! Because the US and UK don't let anything in.... don't tell me now they care about the IRAKI people!!! They could've killed Saddam in the gulf war a while ago... but why didn't they do it? To keep him on the side just in case they need a war later on... Same thing for Osama! NOW YOU TELL ME NO ONE FOUND HIM YET?!?? Why isn't he dead?!?! because they keep him on the side... This has happened before and will happen again.
The US economy is based on the Military-Industrial complexe who employs millions of people. These guys need work now and ANY WAR WILL DO IT!
Anyways people, most of you are too much endoctrinated by CNN and others... anyone who cites CNN just proves my point. CNN isn't news, its propaganda as always has been, look closely to their news and just once in your lives criticize what you hear or read!! Do that for yourself, not for Irak or whoever else. Medias here are controlled and very well too... Don't ever take them for granted.
AND for your own knowledge ( GO READ GOD DAMN IT ): for nuclear weapons, IRAK doesn't have the technology to launch ICBM and no one will ever give them that (its like giving a gun to a murderer). Countries who possesses ICBM that can reach them back just don't sell them at all. SECONDLY, EVERY nuke emits radioactive heat and waves. The US has satelites around the earth that detect those radiation and that's on any spot on the EARTH. So don't tell me some jack ass will put a nuke in his backpack and fly over or EVEN row to America and explode himself.
And about those infamous tapes of chemical weapons tested... SO WHAT? Intelligence know these stuff a whiiiiiiile ago and everyone in the military knows it! Heck anyone can create chemical weapons! So why *now* freak out if Osama is able to make them? One word: marketing... Those tapes are no doubt real, its just to get public opinion in favor of Iraqi bombing because them too are "making" chemicals and other ooooh nasty weapons! only for that! Now a days, its non-scientific public polls that govern US politics... not votes or that thing called democracy.
CNN is amazing! at marketing and plain propaganda!
DON'T BE NAIVE PEOPLE!
I think people like to talk a lot of shit about things that they think are true. No one really knows the whole truth. These political arguments seem to be fueled by senseless crossfire of unsubstantiated facts. CNN said this, CNN said that. The fact is, the Bush administration could very well be claiming that Hussein has weapons of mass destruction just so they have something to tell the rest of the world when it asks why Iraq is being bombed again. Then again, it may be true. We have people here contradicting eachother, both claiming that their arguments are based on cold hard facts. Does no one here ever say to themselves "I'll believe it when I see it"?
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek Ok now no one is making money, and they wants something to divert peoples attention and create jobs at the same time. Easy just declare a war! ANYONE, just CREATE A WAR!!! Who gives a shit about Saddam? or the Iraki people during the last 10 years? |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek This people has been starving to FUCKING DEATH! DYING of stuff no one has died off since centuries! Because the US and UK don't let anything in.... don't tell me now they care about the IRAKI people!!! |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek They could've killed Saddam in the gulf war a while ago... but why didn't they do it? To keep him on the side just in case they need a war later on... |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek Same thing for Osama! NOW YOU TELL ME NO ONE FOUND HIM YET?!?? Why isn't he dead?!?! because they keep him on the side... This has happened before and will happen again. |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek The US economy is based on the Military-Industrial complexe who employs millions of people. These guys need work now and ANY WAR WILL DO IT! |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek Anyways people, most of you are too much endoctrinated by CNN and others... anyone who cites CNN just proves my point. CNN isn't news, its propaganda as always has been, look closely to their news and just once in your lives criticize what you hear or read!! Do that for yourself, not for Irak or whoever else. Medias here are controlled and very well too... Don't ever take them for granted.! |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek AND for your own knowledge ( GO READ GOD DAMN IT ): for nuclear weapons, IRAK doesn't have the technology to launch ICBM and no one will ever give them that (its like giving a gun to a murderer). .! |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek And about those infamous tapes of chemical weapons tested... SO WHAT? Intelligence know these stuff a whiiiiiiile ago and everyone in the military knows it! Heck anyone can create chemical weapons! So why *now* freak out if Osama is able to make them? .! |
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| Originally posted by da_MynDLesS_one Does no one here ever say to themselves "I'll believe it when I see it"? |
one big huge motherfucking STFU to tiesto14 and his pathetic lame attempt into quoting everything said by giving stupid reasons.
while you're at it , why don't you go buy a weapon , kill saddam and osama , and make the world better ? is that your dream ? i bet it is , then what are you waiting ? the army is recruiting , UNCLE SAMS WANTS YOU , ur gonna be the biggest hero in the us nation
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 one big huge motherfucking STFU to tiesto14 and his pathetic lame attempt into quoting everything said by giving stupid reasons. while you're at it , why don't you go buy a weapon , kill saddam and osama , and make the world better ? is that your dream ? i bet it is , then what are you waiting ? the army is recruiting , UNCLE SAMS WANTS YOU , ur gonna be the biggest hero in the us nation |
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| wow are you angry and frustrated?.....maybe you should take an aspirin. this is a grown-ups conversation if you can't handle it maybe you should stay in the BTG is Drunk Again and Asses Threads...seems more like that would suit your level a little better. |
Re: Bombing Iraq
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| Originally posted by fastmp3 if america (specially bush) decides to bomb iraq again , it's probably gonna be the biggest mistake made in the american history. bush and america keep on bitching about "how evil saddam is" , well what the hell are you guys waiting to get rid of him ? you have the power to kill him and give the freedom to iraqis to choose but yet you don't want to do it because the more a country is poorer , the more a country is undeveloped , the more a country is ruled by a dictator , THE MORE IT'S BETTER FOR THE US . instead of it , america still prefers bombing the whole country WHICH MEANS KILLING CIVILIANS AGAIN using an imagined reason : IRAQ is making chemical weapons. well let me tell you something : HA HA HA HA do you guys think Irak , where kids die from starvation and lack of medecins , and suffer from an economical embargo would make these weapons NOW ? if you answer yes , then one more big HA HA HA HA on you. Iraq used to make these weapons back in the 80's when they where rich enough to buy all africa and change it's name to IRAFRIKA , but since the gulf war , the money entering in there is counted by drops (french expression). anyway my questions are : -if america/bush wants really to get rid of saddam and his regime cuz they are "evil" then why don't he send some mega-marshal-sniper-pyroman from hollywood to get rid of him and install at least some democracy there ? and why instead of that america/bush want to bomb the whooooooole country from north to south using a fake and stupid reason called "weapon manufactures" ? -why american call themselves "peaceful people" when 60% of people asked in polls agree to bomb iraq ? don't you think it's gonna create more hatred towards the USA again ? -why is tony blair/england following the USA like a little puppy when it comes to attack someone ? this is not a "let's bash america and americans" thread , i'm just asking these questions and seeking for answers. |
LOL, everyone knows War pushes the Economy in full swing. That is just basic FACT that "everyone knows". Look at WW1 and WW2, it got the economy moving at an incredible pace. The only thing it costs millions of is lives. :P
I don't know how it is basic "FACT" that Saddam gets lobsters and shrimp flown in for him as he runs around the neighbourhood chopping off heads of innocent civilians.
I can say its basic "FACT" that everyone knows the US government and the Rich Right-Wing minded CEO's of American media has most average Americans brainwashed, but I'd have just as much credibility with the Saddam "FACTS"
Cuz you know what? We're all on here saying this and that, but in reality, WE DON'T KNOW SHIT. The Government and media do a fucking good job of making sure WE DON'T KNOW SHIT. And when we think we do KNOW SHIT, its usually BULLSHIT. So lets stop pretending that we're experts, and open our eyes, and maybe try to learn something.
Anyways, Saddam can't be killed, cuz like Busy Child says, it just makes a martyr out of him. If you don't know what that means, it means that people who really didn't give a shit about America will start to hate them, because they killed Saddam. How does that work? If you don't know, you're probably too ignorant to believe me anyways.
Anyone who belives in "nuke the whole country, who cares about civilians they're scum too" I'd like for you to walk up to an Iraqi mother and father and tell them to their face "Oh well, tough luck, civilians die too sometimes in war." Its easy when you're thousands of miles away watching on TV on your cozy couch. These people are living in conditions worse than your trailer parks and bronx neighbourhood ghettos, add on the fact they don't know when the next bomb will be coming.
With that said, I think Negotiations are always the answer. If they don't work, keep trying. Thats the only way, for us, as humans to move forward and evolve in International Politics. This "no negotiations with terrorists" thing is bull, because if you don't talk, lives are lost. Simple as that.
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| Originally posted by quddha LOL, everyone knows War pushes the Economy in full swing. That is just basic FACT that "everyone knows". Look at WW1 and WW2, it got the economy moving at an incredible pace. The only thing it costs millions of is lives. :P |
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| Originally posted by quddha I don't know how it is basic "FACT" that Saddam gets lobsters and shrimp flown in for him as he runs around the neighbourhood chopping off heads of innocent civilians. |
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| Originally posted by quddha I can say its basic "FACT" that everyone knows the US government and the Rich Right-Wing minded CEO's of American media has most average Americans brainwashed, but I'd have just as much credibility with the Saddam "FACTS". |
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| Originally posted by quddha Anyways, Saddam can't be killed, cuz like Busy Child says, it just makes a martyr out of him. If you don't know what that means, it means that people who really didn't give a shit about America will start to hate them, because they killed Saddam. How does that work? If you don't know, you're probably too ignorant to believe me anyways.". |
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| Originally posted by quddha Anyone who belives in "nuke the whole country, who cares about civilians they're scum too" I'd like for you to walk up to an Iraqi mother and father and tell them to their face "Oh well, tough luck, civilians die too sometimes in war." Its easy when you're thousands of miles away watching on TV on your cozy couch. These people are living in conditions worse than your trailer parks and bronx neighbourhood ghettos, add on the fact they don't know when the next bomb will be coming..". |
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| Originally posted by quddha With that said, I think Negotiations are always the answer...". |
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| LoL.......not true.....war costs MILLIONS.....think about it... |
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| nope sorry America doesnt negotiate with terrorists. it doesnt work. |
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| Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Your right its true it cost millions, but could you explain to me why is Germany and Japans economy so strong after their countries were levelled in World War 2? |
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| Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan The British government negotiated with the Irish Republican Army (IRA), look at Northern Ireland now, yes theres the occasionally act of sectarian violence, but theres no big scale bombings or massacres. |
First of all, I am an American.
Second of all, I'm sick of this Anti-American bullshit. America is just like every other country, they fuck up just like every other country, because they are RUN BY PEOPLE. People are not perfect. Nothing the American Government can do can make everyone happy.
Also, I get REALLY FUCKING PISSED when people just bash Bush no matter what he does. Um ok now, he's not the greatest president ever, but he has his pros and cons. to the guy that said "DON'T VOTE REPUBLICAN" that was the biggest fucking joke ever. Clinton is the reason our foriegn policy is fucked up, and now its Bush's job to clean it up. There are two sides to every story.
Third of all, to the person who said "Leave the Israelis alone" and another who said "sharon is a madman".... WHAT IS THE DEAL AGAINST JEWS?!?!?!?!
CAN'T THEY FEND FOR THEMSELVES??? When the hell will they get respect? How come i always hear these fucking sob stories for the muslim people, but not for the jewish. "Ohhhh, the muslims must be feeling so horrible, thats why they are resulting to suicide bombing." NO...they are suicide bombing because they are insane and they can't work in the real world.
The Israelis are just trying to defend themselves. The land really is theirs, it was given to them by the country that owned it, so....um...its theirs. Palestine is a joke, Arafat is a joke, now they are spossed to get land, because they are blowing their people up?
Often parents reward kids when they whine and hit and scream, because they get sick of the whining. Well, everyone knows that correct parenting is to not tolerate the whining, why should we give in and tolerate the unexceptible behavior of the Palestinian state?
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Has America bombed Iraq? No. Have they been thinking about it? Yes. What's wrong with that? I think its one solution, whether or not its the best one, i don't know, it's debatable. thats what they are doing, is debating. We are not going to blow ourselves up until we get our way.
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| well thats Britain...not America..... |
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| Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Why the US government to good to negociate with Terrorist? |
Well theres not really much I can do but call your Government a group useless fucking ****s, thats about it ain't it.
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| yep what u gonna do about it? |
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| Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Well theres not really much I can do but call your Government a group useless fucking ****s, thats about it ain't it. |
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| Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan Actually blow up the US Embassy, and buses full of American tourists, gun down any Americans whislt they sight see, shoot American military personnel at bases here whislt their on leave, but mind you judgeing by that fucking meth head you call your president he'd probably Nuke the whole of Ireland and the Whole of the Uk if it happened. |
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bunch of young retards... can't believe what I just read. You people are waaaaaaaaaay to naive (aka Tiesto14, dude are you 14?? military spending is investment, the money doesn't vanish in thin air! Go read! and I wrote IRAK cause I'm used to writing it in French so STFU).
Anyways, can someone just CLOSE THIS THREAD? Its becoming a flaming arena.
I still believe that political matters shouldn't be disscussed by immature people... (ie. TA isn't the right place for this.)
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek bunch of young retards... can't believe what I just read. You people are waaaaaaaaaay to naive (aka Tiesto14, dude are you 14?? military spending is investment, the money doesn't vanish in thin air! Go read! and I wrote IRAK cause I'm used to writing it in French so STFU). |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek Anyways, can someone just CLOSE THIS THREAD? Its becoming a flaming arena. |
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| Originally posted by ahlamalek I still believe that political matters shouldn't be disscussed by immature people... (ie. TA isn't the right place for this.) |
"The world would be a peacefull pace if everyone would just smoke cannabis..."
Mob Barley 
hehe
actually jp, a better start would be to just get rid of religion.
but your idea is more fun.
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| Originally posted by davinox hehe actually jp, a better start would be to just get rid of religion. but your idea is more fun. |
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| and why on earth did u call Bush a meth head?.... |
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| is that what YOU owuld like to do?./ |
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| useless?...i wonder where the world would be today if the U.S. didnt exsist....thats right you would be under Hitler's and Japan's rule. |
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