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Posted by Meat187 on Dec-06-2011 19:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
Tell me some better compilations then.


A State of Trance 2011


Posted by Chimney on Dec-06-2011 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Meat187
A State of Trance 2011


You still got link to the para-para video with the chick spewing out birds and stuff? It was pretty good tbh.


Posted by Redd on Dec-06-2011 19:51:

he loves eurodance, who cares


Posted by Lira on Dec-06-2011 19:52:

You don't like eurodance? You need an x-ray immediately to know how big a chunk inside you you're missing
quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
You still got link to the para-para video with the chick spewing out birds and stuff? It was pretty good tbh.

That was me, actually. Here it is


Posted by Chimney on Dec-06-2011 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You don't like eurodance? You need an x-ray immediately to know how big a chunk inside you you're missing

That was me, actually. Here it is


Have this instead:


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-06-2011 19:59:

quote:
Originally posted by zyklon-jay
so led zep can eat a dick. they have certainly been sued and lost enough. I can't take when people think that a bunch of plagiarist crackers are innovators in music. they are nothing more than a pretty boy cover band with a great guitarist.


I appreciate you are a blues fan and don't like Led Zep remaking a lot of blues tracks, but they radically transformed all of the tracks they covered to create something very different and at the time quite new.


Posted by zyklon-jay on Dec-06-2011 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I appreciate you are a blues fan and don't like Led Zep remaking a lot of blues tracks, but they radically transformed all of the tracks they covered to create something very different and at the time quite new.


do a little research jack. I think zep was good for what they were. What irks me is that they used to write written by Robert plant and Jimmy page...which incidentally have been changed since due to almost constant litigation for copyright infringements. we aren't only talking older songs either, Zeppelin released plagiarized tracks sometimes only months after the originals...not much of anything was changed, they were straight up copies...yet on the album they were still marked as written by plant and page.

google led zeppelin plagiarism, there are some neat youtubes that play tracks side to side to show you this. I can't post them on my phone.

led zep introduced arena rock, and like the Beatles it was marketing over talent.

I'd write a novel on this but phone typing hurts. read a bit on this subject j, not only do I think you will find it interesting, but you might he surprised.


Posted by meriter on Dec-06-2011 20:24:

This thread is officially the most retarded place on the internet.


Posted by zyklon-jay on Dec-06-2011 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
This thread is officially the most retarded place on the internet.


yeah, you just posted in it...duh.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-06-2011 20:28:

quote:
Originally posted by zyklon-jay

led zep introduced arena rock, and like the Beatles it was marketing over talent.


I wouldn't say that. Aside from Ringo, all of the members of the Beatles were incredibly talented. Especially John and George.


Posted by zyklon-jay on Dec-06-2011 20:33:

of course, but even the band members themselves got tired of the act they had to put on. Paul for instance stated during an interview before a show here last year that being in the Beatles was the most musically depressing time in his life because his creativeness was hampered by being contractually forced to do music he found extremely simple and uninspiring.

read up on this too...music history is a very interesting subject.

led zep was huge in terms of merchandising and non music revenue. kiss essentially stole the business model and took it to the next level with no talent. gene Simmons said it himself.


Posted by zyklon-jay on Dec-06-2011 20:38:

and Paul Rogers is the best brit blues singer from that time. Free was much better musically than zep.

btw George Harrison? really? lol.


Posted by meriter on Dec-06-2011 20:38:

Yeah but what about Wings? Answer that fuck head!


Posted by Redd on Dec-06-2011 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
You don't like eurodance?


sure I do, just spewing some poor insults because he dissed 005, that's all


Posted by zyklon-jay on Dec-06-2011 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by meriter
Yeah but what about Wings? Answer that fuck head!


not a huge fan but the "drop stop" riff in let me roll it always gets me. I saw Paul last year and for a man that age he can still do it. he played 3 hours. didn't like it all but it was a good show.


Posted by srussell0018 on Dec-06-2011 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by zyklon-jay

btw George Harrison? really? lol.


Yes George. He was by far the most talented guitarist of the group. He may not have had the talent for songwriting as the others, but he was definitely one of the most musically talented members. I believe he was recently voted 11 on the Rolling Stone list of top 100 guitarists of all time.

And I'm really not surprised at Paul saying that. I would take it with a grain of salt though. I actually took a music history class my senior year that was completely dedicated to the Beatles. Granted, their early work was rather formulaic as they were playing what the teenage girls wanted to hear, but they absolutely grew immensely as a band throughout the 10+ years they were together. Compare stuff from With the Beatles to stuff from Revolver or The White Album. I wouldn't call their later stuff simple or uninspiring by any means.

Paul was just a complete control freak, which ultimately was a larger factor to their breaking up than Yoko Ono was. Paul wanted to control everything they did, even to the point where he was caught going in and re-recording Ringo's drum parts when they were recording The White Album.

I'll give you the simple and uninspiring nature of their early work, but their breaking up had nothing to do with their music being uninspiring or simple.

Paul is meant to be a solo artist. He just doesn't work in a band.


Posted by pointPi on Dec-07-2011 08:01:

This list makes me wonder what current popular artist/band will still be remembered after 30 yesars. Can you think of anything?

I think I'll go listen to some Madeon.


Posted by WittyHandle on Dec-07-2011 08:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
sure I do, just spewing some poor insults because he dissed 005, that's all


Balance 009 > 005


Ok, I've never heard 005. I just like 009 a lot. Disc one anyway.


Posted by FuzzQi on Dec-07-2011 08:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
You just want to be one of the west end girls.


I'm fairly certain in Brisbane a 'west end girl' is this



So agreed


Posted by FuzzQi on Dec-07-2011 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by WittyHandle
Balance 009 > 005


Ok, I've never heard 005. I just like 009 a lot. Disc one anyway.


I don't like the entire record but there are a few chilled out tracks on it I really really like.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-07-2011 08:33:

quote:
Originally posted by zyklon-jay
do a little research jack. I think zep was good for what they were. What irks me is that they used to write written by Robert plant and Jimmy page...which incidentally have been changed since due to almost constant litigation for copyright infringements. we aren't only talking older songs either, Zeppelin released plagiarized tracks sometimes only months after the originals...not much of anything was changed, they were straight up copies...yet on the album they were still marked as written by plant and page.

google led zeppelin plagiarism, there are some neat youtubes that play tracks side to side to show you this. I can't post them on my phone.

led zep introduced arena rock, and like the Beatles it was marketing over talent.

I'd write a novel on this but phone typing hurts. read a bit on this subject j, not only do I think you will find it interesting, but you might he surprised.


Jay, there are images on Discogs of the original vinyls from 1969 that clearly show Led Zeppelin crediting the original writers where known. I've looked at the Youtube videos and they only reiterate what I already knew - they covered a lot of old tracks and often radically changed them. The only example I can find of them plagiarising a contemporary track was Stairway To Heaven sounding a bit like a Spirit track from two years earlier, and even then they still altered it somewhat.

If you want to post some specific examples, go ahead and I'll admit there's shit I don't know, but I'm not doing the research for you.


Posted by netroM on Dec-07-2011 10:48:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
If you want to post some specific examples, go ahead and I'll admit there's shit I don't know, but I'm not doing the research for you.

did you check these out?






Posted by Sushipunk on Dec-07-2011 10:52:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzQi
I'm fairly certain in Brisbane a 'west end girl' is this



So agreed


LOL

West End used to be so cool, too I lived there for ages!


Posted by EgosXII on Dec-07-2011 10:53:

at those zepelllin vids!

were they that retarded they didn't even change the titles of the tracks? Seems so strange :s


Posted by Kylle on Dec-07-2011 12:36:

quote:
Originally posted by pointPi
I think I'll go listen to some Madeon.


At the moment he is my favorite producer.


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