The stats are from the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.
Find a more reliable source for your 12 hour claim and I'll delete my post.
Posted by itsamemario on Jan-07-2012 18:47:
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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
The stats are from the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism.
Find a more reliable source for your 12 hour claim and I'll delete my post.
I dont want you to delete your post, I want you to not drive after drinking.
For professional drivers there is a period of 12-hour you can not have been drinking, before getting in the seat of a vehicle, and I do believe these are international (at least EU), and it is because everybody metabolizes alcohol differently and there are far too many factors too include that a simple list with time+alcohol amount just isn't accurate enough, and the fact that your government think it is, is beyond me. And most other countries in the world.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 18:52:
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Originally posted by dj_alfi
Yes. One drink an hour. No matter what kind.
Stop saying stupid shit.
Yes, 1 drink = 12oz beer, one shot, one glass of wine. 3 shots is the same as 3 beers, ergo, if you drink 3 drinks within 10 minutes, they will be out of your system in 3 hours.
Math is hard.
Regardless, most adult males could have 3 drinks in an hour and still be fine to drive immediately after finishing the last one. Hence the legal limit being .08% (3-4 drinks).
Posted by LAdazeNYnights on Jan-07-2012 19:01:
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Originally posted by dj_alfi
I dont want you to delete your post, I want you to not drive after drinking.
For professional drivers there is a period of 12-hour you can not have been drinking, before getting in the seat of a vehicle, and I do believe these are international (at least EU), and it is because everybody metabolizes alcohol differently and there are far too many factors too include that a simple list with time+alcohol amount just isn't accurate enough, and the fact that your government think it is, is beyond me. And most other countries in the world.
Fair enough. I totally agree with you that it's much more complicated than the simple math presented (though, those factors are all discussed in some depth over the rest of that article). Still, I think the whole 'not a single drop of alcohol' stigma is going wayyy too far. It's a tyrannical crusade, imo. If I drink 3 beers over a 2 hour span and then wait 3 hours to drive (as I did in the story I shared here) then I know myself to be stone cold sober. Perhaps that isn't true for everyone but it certainly is for me. I believe that I was fine to drive a full hour before that even, but it's important to exercise caution in these matters as the penalties are so harsh.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 19:05:
People who say it's unsafe to drive after 1 drink are morans.
Posted by itsamemario on Jan-07-2012 19:23:
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Regardless, most adult males could have 3 drinks in an hour and still be fine to drive immediately after finishing the last one. Hence the legal limit being .08% (3-4 drinks).
Which is stupidly high. In Norway the legal limit is .02%. Many of the -ia's and surrounding countries even have 0.0%.
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Yes, 1 drink = 12oz beer, one shot, one glass of wine. 3 shots is the same as 3 beers, ergo, if you drink 3 drinks within 10 minutes, they will be out of your system in 3 hours.
Math is hard.
Yes, because all types of wine have the same alcohol level. That's a well known fact. Everybody also knows that a Pi�a Colada and a Long Island Iced Tea have the exact same alcohol content.
The rate of consumption also plays a big role in both how inebriated you get and the rate of which you get there. Getting drunk fast doesn't =staying drunk for 3 hours then suddenly not be drunk again.
It takes the body roughly 25 minutes from you have ingested the last unit of alcohol to reach a plateau of drunkenness, in which it will stay for, as you said, 3 hours, followed by a decrease in inebreation, or a come-down if you'd like. Just like with those ecstasies you had one too many of.
Posted by zidumare on Jan-07-2012 19:25:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
People who say it's unsafe to drive after 1 drink are morans.
i wouldnt consider driving tired, or after drinking safe.
stop being a drunk, and focus on the damn driving.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 19:33:
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Originally posted by dj_alfi
Yes. .08% is stupidly high. American lawmakers must be pro-drinking and driving. OR maybe it's that a normal person who isn't an idiot can operate a car perfectly fine with a BAC of .06%.
I think you're just a pussy.
Sure, not all people should drive after drinking, but it's equally stupid to say that nobody should drive even after drinking a small amount.
Posted by jester on Jan-07-2012 19:36:
Driving home one evening, it is raining like crazy. This black car from New York has no lights on and decides to turn without warning. Thankfully I kept my eyes open for that moron. I truly wish I had a Hummer sometimes, people like that individual I wouldn't mind running off the road.
Posted by zidumare on Jan-07-2012 19:38:
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Originally posted by jester
Driving home one day, it is raining like crazy. This black car from New York has no lights on and decides to turn without warning. Thankfully I kept my eyes open for that moron. I truly wish I had a Hummer sometimes, people like individual I wouldn't mind running off the road.
the Army version Hummer :P LOL bomb for running ppl off the road.
Posted by wienerschnitzel on Jan-07-2012 19:41:
Everyone guy i know here can have 3 drinks and be ok to drive, including my brother in law, who is a cop. So i don't see why this is so hard to believe?
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 19:48:
Posted by prolikewhoa on Jan-07-2012 19:50:
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Originally posted by dj_alfi
You are a fucking moron, and the way you write about it shows that you have no clue just how stupid you really are. I hope you never, ever endanger the lives of others like that again. You fucking tool.
100% right. when you drive recklessly with someone else in the car, you're putting more than just your own life at risk. "racing" a semi to a merge is about the stupidest thing you could do on the road. i hope you're obligated to take defensive driving sometime.
also, i will admit i have driven when i clearly should not have, and it was scary as fuck in retrospect. i tapped someone's bumper at a red light... thankfully there was no damage and he didn't care, but damn. that could have been really bad. after that, i always made sure i had a DD.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 20:02:
People who get into bad car accidents who only had a little bit to drink typically aren't good drivers to begin with. Alcohol impairs your ability, it doesn't remove your ability completely. If your ability is already lacking, obviously it will affect your driving more.
Posted by zidumare on Jan-07-2012 20:43:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
People who get into bad car accidents who only had a little bit to drink typically aren't good drivers to begin with. Alcohol impairs your ability, it doesn't remove your ability completely. If your ability is already lacking, obviously it will affect your driving more.
alcohol is not a factor that should be added while driving.
90% of people are bad drivers to begin with.
90& of people dont have the reaction time necessary to avoid a car crash sober,
imagine them trying to avoid a crash while having drinks.
if you think you can have drinks and drive, then GO PASS THE DRIVING TEST AFTER HAVING SOME DRINKS.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 20:46:
Nice statistics.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-07-2012 20:54:
33% of all car accidents are caused by impaired drivers....that means 67% are caused by sober drivers....who should we really get off the road.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 20:56:
100% of zidumares are faggots. You can't argue with those statistics.
Posted by jester on Jan-07-2012 23:29:
Just an hour ago, I go out and get something to eat. On my way back, some moron driving in the middle of the road. It had to be a senior, no damn idiot in their right mind would drive a boat. Had to honk at them to get out of the way.
I honestly have no idea, how people can be so dumb. You know the street is a two-way. Who cares if it is covered with snow, you should know where the damn centre line is!
Posted by netroM on Jan-07-2012 23:41:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Yes. .08% is stupidly high. American lawmakers must be pro-drinking and driving. OR maybe it's that a normal person who isn't an idiot can operate a car perfectly fine with a BAC of .06%.
Operating a car isn't the problem here though; reaction time is. Alcohol slows that down, just like being tired does.
But aside from that, one thing alcohol is very good at is making people feel confident, and - most likely - as a result, drive faster and take more chances.
Also, it's worth noting that the roads you muricans drive on are probably wider, more open and more narrow, than most of the roads in, say, Europe.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-07-2012 23:48:
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Originally posted by netroM
Operating a car isn't the problem here though; reaction time is. Alcohol slows that down, just like being tired does.
But aside from that, one thing alcohol is very good at is making people feel confident, and - most likely - as a result, drive faster and take more chances.
Also, it's worth noting that the roads you muricans drive on are probably wider, more open and more narrow, than most of the roads in, say, Europe.
Right, but if you're not stupid, you realize these things and compensate by being overly cautious.
Posted by netroM on Jan-07-2012 23:54:
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Originally posted by srussell0018
Right, but if you're not stupid, you realize these things and don't fucking drive after drinking.
fixed.
Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-08-2012 00:03:
There's a huge difference between driving drunk and driving after drinking.
