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Originally posted by Orko The province needs step in and sort out this mess. Nobody is agreeing, and each side is saying that council has not voted on 'the plan'. To boot, the metrolinx "contact us" page is down. FFS guys.

well, one council did vote on TC elements. can you guess which one?

This could be the turning point for TTC - The new chief has 15 years experience in the London Underground

http://www.thestar.com/news/transpo...ts-to-work?bn=1

TTC wrested from the grip of madness and returned to clearer-thinking heads:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...article2359388/

http://www.thestar.com/news/cityhal...nsit-board?bn=1

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...s-on-ttc-board/


(also known in Toronto Sun circles as "WHAAARGAAARBL!@#@$"):

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/0...ver-ttc-control

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/0...ms-ttc-turncoat

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/05/a

That's great, so the rest of Ford's term will be spent battling the TTC Board instead of supporting them. There go another 3 years where nothing will happen until the mayor is replaced by some guy who wants to scrap LRT and subways in favour of a skytrain...

Toronto needs monorail!!!

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Originally posted by GGM That's great, so the rest of Ford's term will be spent battling the TTC Board instead of supporting them. There go another 3 years where nothing will happen until the mayor is replaced by some guy who wants to scrap LRT and subways in favour of a skytrain...

The mayor no longer has the effective power to prevent anything from happening on the transit file; all he can do is continue to trumpet his "the people of this city want subways!" mantra to the media which he will likely continue to do for awhile.

Because all the EAs for the current plan have already been done (barring Sheppard if it is decided to not pursue LRT there), it is only a minor amount of administrative stuff which must be aligned before they can break ground on Eglinton/Finch.

Because enough of council centrists are on board with this, there is no more of a reasonable argument in saying this is a "coup by the pinko lefties" - anybody who campaigns on the nonsense which got Ford in (or if he decides to try a repeat) will not be likely to meet with the same amount of success.

LRT's??? whats wrong with this city?? WE. NEED. SUBWAYS!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by djchez LRT's??? whats wrong with this city?? WE. NEED. SUBWAYS!!!!!!!!!!

When you can convince the majority of the city to be willing to pay the tolls/fees/taxes that would need to be levied to fund subway construction... then we can get subways.

Ford's plan to have city developers foot the bill was kiboshed by the developers themselves. They are "fully onboard" with subways but not willing to put their own coin into it.

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Originally posted by mahalliner The difference between subways and streetcars/LRT is one of capacity (passengers/hour) and cost. Subways are expensive to build and operate. Their capacity in terms of passengers is also much higher. But to make them even break even requires a huge number of people using it. LRT requires fewer passengers to pay for itself. Most areas of the city that don't have subway service now are nowhere near the density of population to support more subway lines. The Sheppard line is an example of that. There needs to be the population there already (or well on its way to being there) to support subway expansion.

If you build it, they will come!

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