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I liked both tracks

shoot me.

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Originally posted by aStateOfTrance Do you mean that people would rather listen to some 3 minute track which they can dance to, than 'Listen' and feel a better, longer track.

No. I'm pretty sure he's saying that the label is marketing shit tunes (regardless of length - I have no idea how you derived length was even pertinent). Both songs are shrill, reductive, and derivative. They seem to have been mastered to make the most out of typically shitty sound-systems or Dr. Dre HP Beats Headphones.

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Originally posted by cropped I liked both tracks shoot me.

Neophyte.

Gotta admit that Jochem Miller track Bamm is a cookie cutter track I actually like and its fun to mix it with techno tracks.

P.O.S. - Remember was a belter. Amnesiac got a lot of airplay at the time, but I always thought it was quite forgettable by comparison.

Progressive house versus progressive trance? I recall very long threads I was involved in that attempted to settle the question, especially when "progressive" came into parlance. Good lord, was that a decade ago? J has given the most appropriate examples so far.

Any meaningful distinction between progressive house and progressive trance evaporated by 2003, when the two currents converged under a single "progressive" banner. The stragglers were mostly regrouped as branches of psytrance (think JOOF) or trance (think the more progressive examples of MIKE through the middle of the decade). Progressive trance as a stand-alone unit ceased to exist, with rare exceptions, and progressive became more plodding, directionless, and boring, before minimal and electro house upended the landscape around 2006-07.

That's the last time I really paid attention to this debate, and since then it seems like "progressive" has been engaged in a long and tortured turf war with terms like house and electro as sounds have steadily shifted away from the traditional "progressive aesthetic". I seem to recall a year or two in there where they tried to rebrand as "tech house", but usually this was just a euphemism for progressive house that was trying to be minimal.

Bedrock has held on in spirit with stuff from Guy J and Henry Saiz, which still sounds "progressive" although markedly different from the genre of a decade ago. Apart from that I would say progressive doesn't really exist anymore, and better to just say house these days. Plus �a change...

(PS: check out Blondes)

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Originally posted by shaminii The dry kinds are always require excess pushing yet do not need much wiping.

Good progressive trance:



Good progressive house:

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Originally posted by Cobalt Bedrock has held on in spirit with stuff from Guy J and Henry Saiz, which still sounds "progressive" although markedly different from the genre of a decade ago. Apart from that I would say progressive doesn't really exist anymore, and better to just say house these days. Plus �a change...

What's your take on the whole Mistiquemusic (and co) sound, then? Granted, most of it sounds almost identical to early-00s prog, and thus isn't really "progressive", but tracks like this are still getting made in fairly large quantities:

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