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Posted by benni on Sep-10-2002 12:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Spad
Go buy a copy of Global Underground 13 - Sasha, Ibiza.

thats what i was gonna say, this is prolly the best Global Underground
CD ever, and if you want progressive, you'll find it on the global underground cd's.

So i also recommend the gu013 by Sasha.

Then try to get a copy of Sander Kleinenberg live at Electrolux
(16-06-2002)
That set is awesome progressive.

Posted by TranceGiant on Sep-10-2002 13:07:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Don't try to 'get into' progressive if you don't like it, just because some friends say it's cool. You have to discover for yourself what you like, and don't let others talk you into something.

I for myself found out a few years ago (after listening to trance for a short while) that I like progressive a lot more..

Only listening to prog because others tell it's cool results in loads of people who don't really like the music, but listen to it because it's 'cool'. Chances are the next step is people producing cheap-ass wannabe prog just for the cash... This won't do the music any good.

Couldnt agree more. Also too many ppl nowadays strongly believe that prog. is the next logical step after trance, thus force themselves to "get into it" . Theres no hierarchy in electronic music ffs! No top of the musical pyramide. I say: try everything out and slowly develop your own "style" and dont follow others..

Posted by chris_norris on Sep-10-2002 14:18:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
here's my opinion on progressive:
it has GREAT buildups, but there is no climax. like after the buildup it just goes back to the same exact beat it had going before. and it just does that OVER AND OVER AND OVER. there is no release in prog. and to me thats what makes it so "boring."

just my two cents

totlly agree, i love that moment just after everything comes together in say, an uplifting trance production, and it kicks in just after the break. it's like a big energy release. you just don't get that with prog IMO.

Posted by sektile on Sep-10-2002 14:37:

Sasha - Xpander

got me into prog

Posted by Verona^My on Sep-10-2002 14:41:

quote:
Originally posted by chris_norris

totlly agree, i love that moment just after everything comes together in say, an uplifting trance production, and it kicks in just after the break. it's like a big energy release. you just don't get that with prog IMO.

I dont even get it with most uplifting... Only goatrance in general gives me enough release.

Posted by yadam on Sep-10-2002 15:18:

bullit-cried to dream(max graham mix)brillant
sasha vs junkie xl-beauty never fades
flash-closing session

Posted by basd on Sep-10-2002 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by yadam
sasha vs junkie xl-beauty never fades

Now that's a quality track... Heard it a few times now, and I love it.. Also curious about Junkie XL - Breezer...

Posted by Cyberwoo on Sep-10-2002 19:43:

quote:
here's my opinion on progressive:
it has GREAT buildups, but there is no climax. like after the buildup it just goes back to the same exact beat it had going before. and it just does that OVER AND OVER AND OVER. there is no release in prog. and to me thats what makes it so "boring."

just my two cents

See thats what makes progressive so great. It never fully climaxes like a full on trance track. It slowly builds and builds keeping a nice steady pace throughout. With trance you have your buildup then the climax and then anything after the climax is just kinda bleh. Know what I mean? Ok its like sex. You know when you have been going at it with your girl for a while (probably 5 minutes for most of you...hehe) and you are both just about ready to climax...well instead of climaxing imagine having that great buildup feeling (the feeling right before you climax) the whole way through. You'd never want to stop! There is no need to "pull out" during a progressive track. You just keep bumpin n grinding all night long. Uhh ya anyway that is progressive my friend.

Posted by dark_tenshi on Sep-10-2002 20:08:

quote:
See thats what makes progressive so great. It never fully climaxes like a full on trance track. It slowly builds and builds keeping a nice steady pace throughout. With trance you have your buildup then the climax and then anything after the climax is just kinda bleh. Know what I mean? Ok its like sex. You know when you have been going at it with your girl for a while (probably 5 minutes for most of you...hehe) and you are both just about ready to climax...well instead of climaxing imagine having that great buildup feeling (the feeling right before you climax) the whole way through. You'd never want to stop! There is no need to "pull out" during a progressive track. You just keep bumpin n grinding all night long. Uhh ya anyway that is progressive my friend.

Posted by randummboy on Sep-10-2002 20:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyberwoo
See thats what makes progressive so great. It never fully climaxes like a full on trance track.

dudde, where have you been?? there are tons of peak time monsters with killer climaxes..

Posted by Kurve on Sep-10-2002 22:57:

the biggest misunderstanding is Progressive is trance..... when the fact is most progressive is more house related then anything else ..its pretty much a genre of its self... Progressive is a Vibe....it can be house,trance,breaks,etc but the vibe is progressive ...but if i had to put it into one of those genres its more house related. most people who listen trance dont like it cuz they are so used to the layout of trance music they get the feel that there is nothing happening in progressive ... but the fact is progressive has ton of things happening mainly in the beat! and THE GROOVE!!!

I say ones u get the feel of progressive there is no other style that compares ..IMO

Posted by assassin8 on Sep-11-2002 01:53:

I'm sorry. I know that it has been up on the forums before but if someone doesn't mind to explain the following question:
What is progressive, how is it different from trance?

I can't distinguish from the two. I read it on the forums before but it didn't quite make sense to me. Does anyone have a simple explanation?

Thanks A Lot

Posted by randummboy on Sep-11-2002 03:44:

Posted by Arbiter on Sep-11-2002 03:52:

quote:
Originally posted by assassin8
I'm sorry. I know that it has been up on the forums before but if someone doesn't mind to explain the following question:
What is progressive, how is it different from trance?

I can't distinguish from the two. I read it on the forums before but it didn't quite make sense to me. Does anyone have a simple explanation?

Thanks A Lot

Here's a good rule of thumb:

Listen to a track. If you get to the end and it makes you think "That's it?" then it's probably progressive.

Personally, I like progressive if it's mixed into a nice set. But progressive tracks standing alone tend to be not powerful enough for my tastes.

Cheers,

Arbiter

Posted by randummboy on Sep-11-2002 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Listen to a track. If you get to the end and it makes you think "That's it?" then it's probably progressive.

so not true..

Posted by 69 KrAzY G 69 on Sep-11-2002 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter

Here's a good rule of thumb:

Listen to a track. If you get to the end and it makes you think "That's it?" then it's probably progressive.

Personally, I like progressive if it's mixed into a nice set. But progressive tracks standing alone tend to be not powerful enough for my tastes.

Cheers,

Arbiter

^^^so tru. Likei like some songs. But basically i find most progresive boring. LIke trance is so uplifting and gets u pumped. But prog is like so slow to me. Well maybee one day ill get more used to it.

Posted by djzero2k on Sep-11-2002 09:33:

There is no doubt that if you want to listen good progressive music,
you will have either to
download
Moshic and Zidan - Kiss 100 FM Radio 2001
i think you will be delighted...

and if you want to listen alive the best radio I have ever seen is
PROTON RADIO
i dont know the link so you will have to ask

hope it helps

Posted by Dj Ahter on Sep-11-2002 09:46:

quote:
Originally posted by daidzen
one of the better progressive trak of ever

Joey Beltram - Energy Flash

Progressive is so different than Trance

different people, different clubs, different flying
different MUSIC

but, now, unfortunatly, Real Progressive is dead
with it situations & it emotions

Remember
Bye

No it's not dead....
but you are right about about it's being different to Trance

Posted by Dj Ahter on Sep-11-2002 09:54:

quote:
Originally posted by 69 KrAzY G 69

^^^so tru. Likei like some songs. But basically i find most progresive boring. LIke trance is so uplifting and gets u pumped. But prog is like so slow to me. Well maybee one day ill get more used to it.

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of progressive but....

progressive may sound boring but it's not...it has an interesting way(I can't explain but let's CALL it humor)...yes interesting way(humor) to make you feel powerful. I think the bassline and the rhytms seem to talk to each other...I know it sounds stupid but you also get that power....but not for very long time tho....

Progressive goes very well after hearing uplifting trance....Remainds you that you are alive(not flying somewhere up there)

Greetz
Dj Ahter

Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-11-2002 09:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyberwoo

See thats what makes progressive so great. It never fully climaxes like a full on trance track. It slowly builds and builds keeping a nice steady pace throughout. With trance you have your buildup then the climax and then anything after the climax is just kinda bleh. Know what I mean? Ok its like sex. You know when you have been going at it with your girl for a while (probably 5 minutes for most of you...hehe) and you are both just about ready to climax...well instead of climaxing imagine having that great buildup feeling (the feeling right before you climax) the whole way through. You'd never want to stop! There is no need to "pull out" during a progressive track. You just keep bumpin n grinding all night long. Uhh ya anyway that is progressive my friend.

so you're saying sex is better when you don't have an orgasm???
thats the funniest shit i've heard all day...thank you!

but prog doesn't GO ANYWHERE!! it just stays the same. i'll use your sex analogy. if some girl is going down on you, and she's just doing the same shit the entire time, it gets boring. it doesn't build up. its just the same steady pace, and to my knowledge, thats NOT how sex goes. if some girl is going down on me and its not leading to anything greater, wtf???? so to me that makes the head very boring. just like prog.

Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-11-2002 10:01:

Posted by basd on Sep-11-2002 12:10:

quote:
Originally posted by djzero2k
and if you want to listen alive the best radio I have ever seen is
PROTON RADIO
i dont know the link so you will have to ask

www.protonradio.com

There's a button that links to a Winamp stream..
Tune in sometime... Huge amounts of great progressive house on this station!

Posted by dj cuttof on Sep-11-2002 12:35:

I HATE ITTTTTTTTTTTTTT, IT'S SO BORING, NO BRAIN MUSIC

Posted by PSi on Sep-11-2002 13:26:

well crew you must understand that this is a TRANCE forum and therefore many people who listen to the knobskin uplifting shit will probably progressnot understand ive. So theres not really any point in arguing with the uplifting trance genrelists, they havent crossed into the darkside yet.

Zooooom the Darkside

Is it me or does the Tyler Stadius CD play with my head in weird and wonderful ways.

later
PSi

Posted by basd on Sep-11-2002 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by PSi
Is it me or does the Tyler Stadius CD play with my head in weird and wonderful ways.

Now THAT makes me even more curious about this one. Just got it upped to me, will give it a listen very soon.

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