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Posted by OrangestO on Aug-14-2012 22:10:


Posted by Blake on Aug-14-2012 23:45:

I know some brilliant scientists who're dyslexic. Can't write for shit, but can speak effectively (with the exception of occasionally odd word choices).

You can't always tell how capable a person is by his or her writing, so it shouldn't be the deciding factor, unless it's for a writing oriented job.

Often times though, one's writing is the deciding factor, regardless of whether it should be.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-15-2012 07:38:

its fucking important (yeah yeah, i know i dont capitalise and only punctuate to avoid ambiguity). when i read job apps and they're filled with mistakes, i wont even consider the applicant.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-15-2012 07:47:

Re: Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Both him and pkc are extremely bright guys who definitely know better, but can't be arsed to format things in the least. It's fine, as they're so very far from illegible, but every time I read something by Paul, I want to tell him how many commas he missed. Though I don't want him to PM me any more pictures of his penis, so I try to keep the peace.




fuck you alex! informal emails forums etc i just type as if i were speaking and because i have such a large lung capacity i just dont need that many pauses when i am speaking because that lung capacity enables me to finishes a sentence without pausing like a ****** and breathing in again like another ****** and i think that's a reasonable way to go about things if you're just trying to type in the same way as you speak because that's just the way i like to do things and i think it's very reasonable to do it this way don't you agree?


Posted by Lira on Aug-15-2012 07:54:

Now THAT's impressive!

I don't think I'll ever be able to pronounce that many asterisks in just one go.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Aug-15-2012 07:55:

Re: Re: Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN


fuck you alex! informal emails forums etc i just type as if i were speaking and because i have such a large lung capacity i just dont need that many pauses when i am speaking because that lung capacity enables me to finishes a sentence without pausing like a ****** and breathing in again like another ****** and i think that's a reasonable way to go about things if you're just trying to type in the same way as you speak because that's just the way i like to do things and i think it's very reasonable to do it this way don't you agree?



and just think if you didn't smoke!


Posted by Moral Hazard on Aug-15-2012 11:21:

Re: Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Both him and pkc are extremely bright guys who definitely know better, but can't be arsed to format things in the least. It's fine, as they're so very far from illegible


Thank you. My personal writing is quite different from my professional, which is highly regarded. This will frighten those of you who read my posts; I have prepared and delivered training materials on the writing of reports and letters that are used within my company to train staff. I have also been tasked with creating template letters for two of my employers.

quote:
but every time I read something by Paul, I want to tell him how many commas he missed. Though I don't want him to PM me any more pictures of his penis, so I try to keep the peace.


Wait... so if I PM PKC to critique his posts I get a picture of his dick? PM SENT!

Hey Paul, call me


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-15-2012 11:27:



i'll send you cock pics if you promise next time you have a massive (interesting!) religious rant, you'll use some motherfucking paragraphs.


Posted by Lagrangian on Aug-15-2012 19:41:

Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

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Originally posted by OrangestO
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There's good writers on here, meaning they pay attention to what they write and how they write it. And... there's awful ones, too.

What do you guys think? Should a grammar mistake cost you the chance of landing a job?

When you read other people's posts on here, do you take how well they write into consideration in deciding whether to take them seriously?


No, but your ability to run a weighted quick union find on Java should.


Posted by Intellekshual on Aug-15-2012 19:56:

Re: Re: Re: Re: should your ability to write well be the deciding factor in getting a job?

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
fuck you alex! informal emails forums etc i just type as if i were speaking and because i have such a large lung capacity i just dont need that many pauses when i am speaking because that lung capacity enables me to finishes a sentence without pausing like a ****** and breathing in again like another ****** and i think that's a reasonable way to go about things if you're just trying to type in the same way as you speak because that's just the way i like to do things and i think it's very reasonable to do it this way don't you agree?

I almost died reading this. *inhales deeply*


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Aug-15-2012 21:11:

If you can't even apply to a job without taking the time to make no mistakes, you most likely work half assed as well.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-15-2012 22:11:

I was assuming this was a hypothetical situation where they were privy to your ability. If you make a mistake on your resume or cover letter, you better be really special for me to overlook that because that isn't so much a lack of knowledge as it is a lack of caring about details. Most people have some idea of how they write and if you know you suck, you get someone to proof read it.

I've put some thought into why my writing say on a message board is often atrocious yet i am able to write rather well in an academic or formal setting. I think that i approach writing much differently depending on the situation. The nature of my work in many ways involves a process where you try to spit out your thoughts and then edit them afterwords. I think this translates to writing. I just don't do the editing part. I mean you see edits but they are usually things I add, not correct. It is pretty hard for me to just write properly without having to go back and structure things and edit the mistakes. I think you need to practice writing to be able to do that well. But language has always been that one thing I have to work at. It isn't something that will just improve from reading. I read alot. So i can recognize bad writing and that is usually the process i would apply after the fact. But ya, i would never be able to write anything that was not a mess without having to go back and edit. I think this is more a indication of how your mind operates. I know mine is very non linear which is great for creativity but not so great for other things.


Posted by OrangestO on Feb-10-2013 00:37:

My proven ability to write well trumped my shitty cover letter and resume for a writing and editing gig I just landed with a book publisher.

A lot of the other applicants had Masters Degrees, 10+ years of experience and much better qualifications for the job. I mean, the guy who hired me (who once did cover letters and resumes for company execs in a previous job) said my cover letter and resume were shit.

"If I were going by just those two things, you wouldn't have even gotten an interview."

Ouch.

The cool thing about this criticism is that he took the time to go over my cover letter and resume and told me what to change for the next time I'm applying for jobs. What a difference.

Anyways, on topic, my ability to write well was the deciding factor in me getting this job.

I'm glad I attached my work samples with my email to go along with my resume and cover letter. The ad didn't even ask for samples, but thanks to my instinct I did it anyways.


Posted by on Feb-10-2013 02:02:

Maybe the other candidates were over qualified and as a result wanted more money than they could afford so they choose you. Irreguardless congrats.


Posted by Lira on Feb-10-2013 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Jon_Snow
Irreguardless

I love it!

The best is that it's not even censored!


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