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Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-12-2013 00:18:

I'm gonna go get the papers get the papers


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-12-2013 00:21:

Can you believe this guy last week he asked me to christen his fuckin kid!


its not competition goodfellas was by far the best movie ever. like jenny said I have watched it over a thousand times and each time i watch it its like watching it for the first time


Posted by OrangestO on Jan-12-2013 00:22:

Goodfellas > Godfather


Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-12-2013 00:22:

Shut your fucking mouth


Posted by Zharen on Jan-12-2013 03:06:

What do you want from me?


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-12-2013 04:26:

Now we're done with the obligatary spats...

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
I love long tracking shots. There's a good one in Pulp Fiction that follows Bruce Willis from his car to his apartment when he's going back for his watch.


Another one in Pulp Fiction is the long take following Jules and Vincent along the corridor, to the apartment door, round the corner and then back to the door. Tarantino was massively inspired by Scorcese, of course, and being the arch cinematic postmodern magpie would probably be the first to admit it. The Copacabana scene in Goodfellas is rightfully one of the most celebrated shots in cinematic history, a moment that even people with no technical understanding of film can point to. It's a perfect example of style complementing subtext: we are visually entering into this glamorous world of back-door privilege from the outside, drawn into it and swept off our feet by it. This single shot perfectly illustrates the appeal of a life of crime.

Although, for the long take as the cinematic equivalent of the guitar solo, I have to say I prefer this one:


Posted by Redd on Jan-12-2013 09:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Dude that isn't even a contest... Next to Goodfellas the only decent thing Liotta has done is Grand Theft Auto Vice City. Travis Bickle alone makes DeNiro 10x the actor Ray Liotta wishes he were.


agreed to no contest, but credit to Liotta for "Killing Them Softly", even if only a small part.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jan-12-2013 20:06:

Fuck, I love Hard Boiled.


Posted by WittyHandle on Jan-13-2013 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Redd
agreed to no contest, but credit to Liotta for "Killing Them Softly", even if only a small part.


Liked that movie a lot.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jan-13-2013 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
For someone who supposedly scores films, you are remarkably shit at understanding them.


well

i could tell you from the md's mouth that the music selection was used to narrate the change in time. The very fact that period music was uses original music is pretty fucking obvious. Yes scorcese picked music from the year that was happening in gf but it was more to do with the character in question.. The usage of voice overs is also a technique over used in these types of films as it is in casino. But you seem to find robocop and judge dread the holy grail of film making so I don't think we will see eye to eye. I think perhaps you are slightly myopic when it comes to music, film and art in general. Your ability to be an ass is unquestionably impressive.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jan-13-2013 02:47:

+1


Posted by rdevito on Jan-13-2013 02:50:

quote:
Originally posted by OrangestO
Goodfellas > Godfather


You can't be serious.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Jan-13-2013 03:15:

I dunno, srussel and Looney4Clooney thinking you're a mypoic ass is rather a badge of honour, because it means you must be doing something right.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-13-2013 06:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
The very fact that period music was uses original music is pretty fucking obvious.


Nothing about this sentence is obvious to me.


Posted by stren on Jan-13-2013 12:32:

I'd say Casino cause that's the one I saw more times. Goodfellas were good and all, but De Niro wasn't the main character


Posted by CONNERMAN2000 on Jan-15-2013 00:57:

If long tracking, cut-free shots is what you dig, check out just about any movie with Brian De Palma behind the camera. He loves to let scenes play out organically. I'm sure Tarantino caught quite a bit of inspiration from De Palma's works (along with Scorsese, no doubt).

It wasn't well received by critics or many movie-goers, but Mission to Mars is a good example...a lot of scenes let the audience dwell on the progression of the events happening, rather than resorting to hyperkinetic editing in order to build some sense of adrenaline or excitement.


Goodfellas wins, by the way, but Casino definitely deserves its own recognition for reasons that don't even need to be said. Both movies are pure Scorsese right down to their cores.


Posted by OrangestO on Jan-15-2013 03:28:

quote:
Originally posted by rdevito
You can't be serious.


I am.

I've never been able to finish The Godfather


Posted by RapidFire on Jan-15-2013 06:38:

heat > all

but i always liked casino more. it felt like goodfellas 2.0...the violence, the tragedy, everything felt one-upped to me.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-27-2013 12:40:

I know I bang on about this a lot, but I managed to see Robocop at a local independent cinema last night and noticed for the first time a fantastic long take: where we enter the boardroom with Bob Morten and Johnson, pick up Dick Jones and the Old Man coming the other way, follow them to their seats and pull back to bring the whole room into shot and stop behind the model of Delta City. Not as ostentatious a shot as the ones mentioned so far in this thread, but still brilliantly executed.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-27-2013 13:25:

fuck my memory is shit. i totally forgot robocop's scene in goodfellas.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jan-27-2013 14:00:

It's a rare European recut by Paul Verhoeven. The running time is considerably shorter, due to a crucial scene where Robocop enters the Copacabana club and guns down the entire mafia.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jan-27-2013 16:07:


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