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Posted by Spam on Mar-12-2013 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Still acidic and not something you should be drinking regularly. The taurine as I mentioned is apparantly not harmful but why bother. I cant find a good reason for it being there. I think these drinks ae rather new and I would rather not be a guinea pig.


I believe I read somewhere (and can't be assed to do the research right now) that Taurine is in energy drinks to help your body metabolize cold caffeine.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-12-2013 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
http://www.research.utoronto.ca/beh...r-young-people/

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2012...ks-and-toxicity

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/...drinks-in-2011/

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org.../energy-drinks/


lol, did you even read any of your links?

quote:

Neither innocuous nor toxic, energy drinks seem safe for adults when consumed in moderation


quote:

Side effects related to energy drinks appear to be largely due to the caffeine content


etc.

ie nothing to substantiate the 'energy drinks are poison' query s-j had.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Mar-12-2013 22:37:

I have mothufuckin wikipedia at my fingertips. Im about to school you motherfockers.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-12-2013 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
ie nothing to substantiate the 'energy drinks are poison' query s-j had.


Not to mention most of the negative factors mentioned in those articles revolve around ingesting too much caffeine, which isn't exclusive to energy drinks. Seems to me any rise in hospitalisations and health conditions in relation to energy drinks is more to do with people treating them as soft drinks or smashing dozens of Jaegerbombs on a night out than the intrinsic properties of the drinks themselves. Which is more or less what I suspected. And yes, they are ridiculously sugary, but that doesn't warrant the health warnings being thrown around in this thread.

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Same 'ere, but I'm 30.


The age thing was more in response to L4C's rather baffling assertion that I am "an old fuck".

Anyway, I'm going to try and go the whole week without any caffeine. It's definitely prompting me to go to bed earlier, if only because I can't justify staying up until 1am on a work night with "I'll just neck a Red Bull tomorrow and get through it."


Posted by srussell0018 on Mar-12-2013 23:01:

Sugar Free Red Bull and Red Bull Zero both have 0 sugar and very low calories. The sugar argument is moot if you stick to "diet" red bull as it were.


Posted by Spacey Orange on Mar-12-2013 23:47:



Tastes great and sugar free. Sure it will make you look a little feminine, but if you listen to EDM chances are people already think you are. Not that there is anything wrong with that.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Mar-12-2013 23:50:

i drink usually 2 green teas and a coffe in the morning. I am extremely tolerant to caffeine i've ben caffeine driven for years. Last year for example i had to work in the morning, generally i had to train in the evening and i went clubbing/djing at some nights. A lot of days i just slept for 3-4 hours i lost 9 kg in months had to left sport in order to have some time to sleep. To do this i drunk 2 cans of Monster (1Liter) which was potentially dangerous... i never had any issue though, but some people experience arrythmias if they drink 2-3 cans of red bull which is like one can of monster or so...

This year i've left clubbing on mid week days, that was the real problem. But best nights were on tuesday or thursday...

And oh well about taurine... this was used by the US army in Vietnam to increase the concentration, awareness and this short of things, probably the amount of taurine the soldiers were given was beyond aceptable for a human body but they all ended being crazy killing each others and specially being "too brave" in the sense of "and what if they are firing 1000 rounds directly to us at this moment, let's knife them, followed by a brave heart scene and a carnage"

I suppose now the amount of it is minimal but well if they set a limit of 3 cans/day and you plan to drink it regularly i'd at least not pass this limit for your own good.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-13-2013 03:32:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Not to mention most of the negative factors mentioned in those articles revolve around ingesting too much caffeine, which isn't exclusive to energy drinks. Seems to me any rise in hospitalisations and health conditions in relation to energy drinks is more to do with people treating them as soft drinks or smashing dozens of Jaegerbombs on a night out than the intrinsic properties of the drinks themselves. Which is more or less what I suspected. And yes, they are ridiculously sugary, but that doesn't warrant the health warnings being thrown around in this thread.



The age thing was more in response to L4C's rather baffling assertion that I am "an old fuck".

Anyway, I'm going to try and go the whole week without any caffeine. It's definitely prompting me to go to bed earlier, if only because I can't justify staying up until 1am on a work night with "I'll just neck a Red Bull tomorrow and get through it."


i assumed someone so grumpy had to be in their 30s. Boy i would hate to meet you in 10 years .


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Mar-13-2013 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lol, did you even read any of your links?





etc.

ie nothing to substantiate the 'energy drinks are poison' query s-j had.


kind makes you wonder why they have apparantly killed people and are banned in many european countries. If it tastes like battery acid, and looks like battery acid , it probably isn't very good for you. There is no actual long term studies. Why fuck around with shit that not only tastes awful but will probably make you infertile in the long run.


Posted by WittyHandle on Mar-13-2013 03:41:

Clearly forming an opinion on what has "apparently" happened coupled with a hyperbolic comparison to acid is a reasonable approach. If you don't like it, that's one thing, but claiming it's deadly is another.

The only health issues I've heard confirmed are due to the caffeine content. Anyone with heart issues should definitely be concerned. All others should learn their boundaries.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Mar-13-2013 03:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
kind makes you wonder why they have apparantly killed people and are banned in many european countries.


quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
There is no actual long term studies.


You don�t see any contradiction here? Like your links said, they�re not a big deal and the side effects you�d get from them are likely to occur with ANY caffeine delivery system.

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Why fuck around with shit that not only tastes awful but will probably make you infertile in the long run.


I don�t give a shit what people do. just as long as they don�t talk bollocks about things they have zero supporting evidence for.


Posted by Trance-M on Mar-13-2013 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i assumed someone so grumpy had to be in their 30s. Boy i would hate to meet you in 10 years .


I still don't know if it was kind of funny or surprizing that you as a daily visitor here didn't know Jay wasn't that old.
It wouldn't surprise me if Jay gets less grumpy in time.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-13-2013 13:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
i assumed someone so grumpy had to be in their 30s.


Well, you might assume that someone in their '30s wouldn't act as childishly as you, but welcome to the Internet. And it's not surprising you can't present any evidence for your case when you lack the investigative skills to even click on my profile and see my date of birth.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-13-2013 15:16:

All of these posts not lauding black coffee. They are irrelevant.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-13-2013 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney


All of these posts. They are irrelevant.


Posted by david.michael on Mar-13-2013 15:17:

+1 for black coffee


Posted by Silky Johnson on Mar-13-2013 15:19:

I brought back some coffee from my trip to Jamaica - it is the best coffee I've ever tasted.


Posted by PivotTechno on Mar-13-2013 15:49:

Better than coffee that's been shat out by Jumbo & Friends?


Posted by enydo on Mar-13-2013 15:51:

black coffee right nao

office coffee is shit but it does the job. gimme those early morning coffee poops.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-13-2013 16:04:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
Better than coffee that's been shat out by Jumbo & Friends?


Hrm, I would try it, but I'm not sold on the removal of the bitter aftertaste; I rather like that about black coffee. But I think bitter might be one of my favourite sensations- IPAs, black coffee, >90% cocoa chocolate, kale, etc. are pretty frequent staples for me.


Posted by Rodri Santos on Mar-13-2013 16:18:

Best thing you can drink to stay awake is tea. Green tea if possible i drink a mixture of 2 varieties of green tea + a plant that gives you 3 times the amount of vitamin C than oranges. You can drink 8 glasses of this a day that is not bad for you at all.

-Good for liver (and if you drink as much as i do it's a good advantage)
-Removes toxines
-Burns fat and reduces hunger.
-Prevents several types of cancer.
-More...


Posted by enydo on Mar-13-2013 16:26:

Yeah, how about you post some scientific evidence to back up all your claims.

Or is that not what this is about?


Posted by enydo on Mar-13-2013 16:27:

DETOXIFIES THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER
REALIGNS YOUR CHAKRAS


Posted by Rodri Santos on Mar-13-2013 16:30:

http://www.thirdage.com/cholesterol...nking-green-tea

This is from harward but read the previous link as it is more clear and to the point. http://www.health.harvard.edu/press...nking_green_tea

quote:
DETOXIFIES THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER REALIGNS YOUR CHAKRAS


Scientific evidences please!!


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Mar-13-2013 16:31:

You NEED Grandmother Reiki Tea for that sort of synchronization.


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