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Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-10-2013 13:01:

If you're actually a good employee, and have others to back you up, with what you've said so far it seems like you'd have a solid wrongful termination suit. If not, I'd go straight to the press and fuck that owner right in the ass. How many mothers/women do you think will be going to his restaurant if they know he's firing women for saying they were sexually assaulted by another coworker.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Jul-10-2013 14:40:

Don't feel stupid.Being friends with a guy or helping them out here and there is not setting yourself up to be sexually assaulted. Because you are young and attractive others will resent you and some will try and take advantage of you. It sounds like Ted gave you some solid advice. If you want to make it more personal find this guy's ex/baby mumma's contact info and let her know what happened in his apartment while their daughter was in his custody. Also mention the police file # to let her know you're serious. She may not take it seriously or she may take it very seriously especially if she has a custody battle in progress... who knows?


Posted by Dykes_on_Jay on Jul-10-2013 14:46:

I feel for ya sweetie.

Women need to realize though. If I guy talks to you, he wants to fuck you.No exceptions. We aren't all rapey douches though.


Posted by enydo on Jul-10-2013 15:21:

Ted really knows his shit in this area, by the byyyyy.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jul-10-2013 15:30:

to your work environment it sounds like you guys were getting tight, he grew some feelings, finally made a move and you yelled sexual assault. He's probably making himself out as the victim. I wouldnt take down the restaurant for it, I would tell my side of the story and leave


Posted by sensorium on Jul-10-2013 16:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
Haha. It happens I guess.

In reference to your supervisor, upon you securing a position elsewhere and filing a report regarding the incident, make sure to include your name. The actions you describe thus far do not technically constitute retaliation unless there is a paper trail. You must make sure you have a record of everything. If you have the capability of submitting an official report through a third party ethics hotline, maintain the case number. If you can only report the incidents internally, ask about a case number, or about securing a copy of the report. If you face further reprisal subsequent to the lodging of a formal complaint, then you can begin to proclaim you are suffering retaliation. If you make enough noise and document incidents diligently, you may be able to get both people terminated (or severely reprimanded). Although my company works primarily with Fortune 500 companies that have dedicated compliance divisions (or large Human Resource divisions that could encompass impartial associates). In your specific case it seems as though there may be favoritism between the supervisor and employee which may be impeding impartial judgment. If you work at some mom and pop place without an extensive compliance infrastructure, it may behoove you to just leave while you can, forget about it, and leave them a bad yelp review or something.


or provide link to yelp so more users can write bad reviews about the molestation place.

I agree with srusell0018, go to press, bother them and make them lose customers. they more than deserve it.

your actions can save or put another girl from a similar situation at the same place. think about it.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jul-10-2013 17:29:

the level of insensitivity is kinda fucked in this thread. What constitutes assault is getting physically touched in a manner you don't like. You push a cop with your finger, you will be charged for assault. Your clothes were ripped. There is your evidence. The desk clerk that called cops, there is your witness. Go see a psychiatrist and ask for some medication to cope with the event which you describe in detail and have them put it on paper. Then start seing a therapist. And once they all corroborate your story, he will be charged and perhaps won't end up in prison, he will have that on his record. And cases that are dismissed should not affect one's future outcome but it does. They won't mention it but a judge is going to see the pattern and it will influence his/her way of thinking.

The cops don't like paper work. File the charges. At least they will have to arrest him and he will miss a shift. What ever you do , do not just become another victim that just gives it a pass because everyone tells you you have no case. You have a case. You have evidence, and you have a witness.

They aren't going to have a jury. He will have a public defender so rest assured his defence won't give a fuck and you will have the DA. They will look at the facts, and his history and probably give him community service at the very least.

And if you are going to get fired, mismanage your cashout on the biggest night of the week. That is something they can't actually prove or hold you responsible for. Your word against his. I put the thousand dollars in the drop box. I am pretty sure this place doesn't have a witness system so ya, there is your 1000 plus your severance pay for wrong ful termination. The news won't care.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-10-2013 17:39:

^ this for sure


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jul-10-2013 17:45:

i mean vivid boy turns a thread about someone being sexually assaulted into his story about becoming a mover and shaker in the real estate biz.

Vividboy - it is sort of a general rule that when you have to explain to people why you dont' suck in a thread about someone getting sexually assaulted, you probably suck in ways even Michael Bay would have trouble illustrating with a car crash.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-10-2013 17:51:

Ted's clearly right and you don't even need to frame it in terms of ethics and compliance. Even if you don't get fired, leave as quickly as you can. You claim to be sexually assaulted and your boss responds by getting extremely and unfairly angry at you. Why the fuck would you want to continue working there?


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jul-10-2013 18:06:

Because she is a waiter. They live check by check. The USA has no safety net. It isn't that easy. You can't fault someone when you live in a country as fucked as the USA were if i'm not mistaken they pay waiters less than minimum wage and assume you will make tips. If she doesn'tt have family and friends to help, then the decision is pretty hard.

I just wish you would hear stories about guys getting shot in the dick. Perhaps the NRA would think twice about everyone packing and some guys that deserve to shot in the dick will get their penis pieced with one of those bullets that don't exit and just bounce around destroying his junk.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-10-2013 18:10:

She also already said that she'd rather have a job lined up than to quit or get fired and be unemployed and have to take a job out of desperation.


Posted by enydo on Jul-10-2013 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Because she is a waiter. They live check by check. The USA has no safety net. It isn't that easy. You can't fault someone when you live in a country as fucked as the USA were if i'm not mistaken they pay waiters less than minimum wage and assume you will make tips. If she doesn'tt have family and friends to help, then the decision is pretty hard.

I just wish you would hear stories about guys getting shot in the dick. Perhaps the NRA would think twice about everyone packing and some guys that deserve to shot in the dick will get their penis pieced with one of those bullets that don't exit and just bounce around destroying his junk.


omg A+


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Jul-10-2013 18:33:

Firstly, she stated clearly that she has a second job, so she would not be unemployed. Secondly, I agreed with Ted who clearly stated "The best route would be to look for employment elsewhere, as roughy as it is to say" so it should be clear enough I am not advocating simply walking out of the door into unemployment anyway. I would never advocate leaving a job without first finding another - the priority is finding another as quickly as possible Thirdly, she stated that she is never given more than 20 hours in what is a part-time position, so unless employment prospects in Kentucky are utterly abysmal she wouldn't have a great deal of difficulty in finding a replacement job.

To make it clear, my point is not to have a dig at Jori, it's more of an observation that when you're in a job where you're receiving utterly unreasonable treatment, you should get out as quickly as possible. Her case history of being treated like shit and unfairly fired probably stems from being overly tolerant of utterly shitty treatment at the hands of employers.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Jul-10-2013 18:41:

Also i think it should be said that Jori doesn't have a great support system like a lot of us do. She has mentioned before that she does not have a good (or any) relationship with her parents. She's left to her own devices to cover her ass when money gets tight so i don't blame her for being reluctant to do anything rash.


Posted by wienerschnitzel on Jul-10-2013 18:43:

sorry this wasn't in response to your comment jack- i just mentioned it for those that may think she's stupid for not just walking out all together.


Posted by Desiderata on Jul-10-2013 18:55:

Banora has the worst luck with jobs ever. I've seen her tell a few stories. Have you thought of going back to school, you're still young.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jul-10-2013 18:57:

I think if she gave up her coochie like he wanted her to she'd have been promoted and been in a better position than she is now.



ps I am awesome at real estate. I now have curtains in my car windows


Posted by Ted Promo on Jul-10-2013 18:58:

Honestly, if you can get out of serving, bartending, and the food industry in general you would most likely be better served. Most ofthe food companies seem not to care all that much about ethics, benefits are scant, and accountability is rare. Retail jobs tend to stink, but there tends to be more of a structure to them.


Posted by srussell0018 on Jul-10-2013 18:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Vivid Boy
ps I am awesome at real estate. I now have curtains in my car windows


But do you have an umbrella in your rear door?


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jul-10-2013 19:02:

yes to keep dry from the haters


Posted by WittyHandle on Jul-10-2013 19:10:

You stuck an umbrella up your butt to deter angry action back there? I don't think it works like that.


Posted by Looney4Clooney on Jul-10-2013 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Desiderata
Banora has the worst luck with jobs ever. I've seen her tell a few stories. Have you thought of going back to school, you're still young.


the service industry is like that. You either get fired or find a new place within 2 years. it is just how it works. I think people just develop an attitude from the mundane work and you just start to be a problem employe at least how management sees it. You are no longer willing to accept paying for mistakes, not being paid for overtime, never getting a lunch break.,,

Unless you are working at a restaurant were you need a certain skill set and knowledge which would be those 5 star places were you can make a living, getting fired is just common place in that industry.


Posted by Vivid Boy on Jul-10-2013 19:14:

handle first duh


Posted by enydo on Jul-10-2013 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
the service industry is like that. You either get fired or find a new place within 2 years. it is just how it works. I think people just develop an attitude from the mundane work and you just start to be a problem employe at least how management sees it. You are no longer willing to accept paying for mistakes, not being paid for overtime, never getting a lunch break.,,

Unless you are working at a restaurant were you need a certain skill set and knowledge which would be those 5 star places were you can make a living, getting fired is just common place in that industry.


Yeah, it's common to get fired from that industry if you suck at working. Or any industry.


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