The U.K. ownz the whole trance community

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Posted by TranceLuver4evr on Sep-25-2002 20:32:

Re: Re: LOL

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Originally posted by oDrori

Yes, but you forget they all make lowly cheese

It depends on your definition of cheese............Everything is fucking chesse nowdays

And once 20+ ppl agree that it's not chesse.......people will change their mind and says it's a great track

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 20:33:

Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori

Yes, but you forget they all make lowly cheese

yes of course theyre cheese mr scooter-made-the-best-trnace-i-ever heard

*keels over laughing*

Posted by Dave_Masters on Sep-25-2002 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter

He knows what he likes, and what he doesn't like. Unfortunately, he doen't know that other people's opinions are just as good as his!

Word mate... couldnt have put it better.

Posted by Dave_Masters on Sep-25-2002 20:35:

Re: Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr

It depends on your definition of cheese............Everything is fucking chesse nowdays

Very true.

Apparently Armin spins "cheese"

Posted by Ekstasis on Sep-25-2002 20:36:

Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr
Sorry dude.......

But Germany own the trance community

I have to agree with this. Most trance out of the UK I find a bit boreing. The Germans just bring something to it. Dont really know how to describe it.

Posted by flystyler on Sep-25-2002 20:38:

Re: Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLuver4evr

It depends on your definition of cheese............Everything is fucking chesse nowdays

And once 20+ ppl agree that it's not chesse.......people will change their mind and says it's a great track

Kind of true, like wot happens on the forums

If i start a thead about a certain dj, and then someone agrees the whole thread will pritty much agree, apart from a few peeps, who only disagree to be different, think its well bad, lol

But if i start a thread and the first 2 people disagree prob the rest will, it seems liek a lot of people on the forums are like sheep, and dont want to show their true feelings, or dont have amind of their own and cant formulate their own opinions

Posted by oDrori on Sep-25-2002 20:38:

Re: Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR

yes of course theyre cheese mr scooter-made-the-best-trnace-i-ever heard

*keels over laughing*

You have DuMonde in your nickname...

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 20:38:

Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Ekstasis

I have to agree with this. Most trance out of the UK I find a bit boreing. The Germans just bring something to it. Dont really know how to describe it.

i think its becuase in germany the trance scene is least musically arrogant compared to holland and england, in our country everthing seems to want to be "cool" whereas in germany everyone is respected for what they do which brings about a more diverse trance culture and at the end of the day its all about having a good time, not pulling up a seat on the dancefloor and analysing honed progressive beats.

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 20:40:

Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori

You have DuMonde in your nickname...

and your point is? dumonde dont make slowed down HHC for 12 year olds thats for sure...

Posted by oDrori on Sep-25-2002 20:50:

No, they just recycle the same tune for 2 years, that's all

(DT replies: And Scooter doesn't?) >>> So Dumonde are just as cheezy as Scooter?

Except an MC, what makes Scooter any more commercial than Dumonde? (You can't really say cause you've heard nothing but radio edits of singles)

Posted by speedracer_mec on Sep-25-2002 20:57:

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker

Damn I made a great reply to ya but then TA seems to freeze here, I thought it will be posted thuogh but nothing

Well then I stick to speedracer_mec's explanation
kool now TA aint frreezing..let me explain my stupid hypothesis(tested on several people but not upgraded to a theory)

the way i see it..u start in cheese(ian van dahl..)...then u either move onto a slighter version of cheese(gielen, dj kim)..lol...then u move either onto hard trance or trance where u will be trained for a couple of months or years...(dumonde,shokk) or (armin,ferry) or a combination of the two....from there..u will either stay there forever or jump onto the first step of tektrance/prog...(slacker,oliverlieb)---(holden,tilt,futureshock)...then u either stay here for the time being and continue to hover over this level between the trance that brought u up and this level of prog...or u will move up to progressive....Satoshi Tomiie..anthony pappa...etc..and may only peep at trance once in a while....then from here..breakbeats/prog..may interest u...or ull jump around levels....my theory=my opinion

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 21:00:

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori
No, they just recycle the same tune for 2 years, that's all

(DT replies: And Scooter doesn't?) >>> So Dumonde are just as cheezy as Scooter?

Except an MC, what makes Scooter any more commercial than Dumonde? (You can't really say cause you've heard nothing but radio edits of singles)

u mean dumonde?

for a start dumondes synths are way more complex, smae with strings, not jsut sumthing you find sat in fm7, they use more complex techy drums and baslines, again none of the "default" industry "standard" effects you find in everday dance tracks, theyve used a smiliar style, they have been honing it over years and they have got it hwo they want it, and keep it that way, thats why, its a style, some peopel are two arrogant to realise this, but hey, thats life! everyones after sumthigns differnet ebcause their simple minds cant stand sumthing more than twice, oh dear!

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
kool now TA aint frreezing..let me explain my stupid hypothesis(tested on several people but not upgraded to a theory)

the way i see it..u start in cheese(ian van dahl..)...then u either move onto a slighter version of cheese(gielen, dj kim)..lol...then u move either onto hard trance or trance where u will be trained for a couple of months or years...(dumonde,shokk) or (armin,ferry) or a combination of the two....from there..u will either stay there forever or jump onto the first step of tektrance/prog...(slacker,oliverlieb)---(holden,tilt,futureshock)...then u either stay here for the time being and continue to hover over this level between the trance that brought u up and this level of prog...or u will move up to progressive....Satoshi Tomiie..anthony pappa...etc..and may only peep at trance once in a while....then from here..breakbeats/prog..may interest u...or ull jump around levels....my theory=my opinion

or maybe uve lsitened to prog so much when it was better and are now bored of the other stuff thats coming out!

why do you tech peopel think your so advanced and above everyone else? it makes me fucking sick! and you wonder why peopel lash out at your genre? because your all fucking snobs towards everything else coz "its for kids" and your "above it all" HAHAHAHA

Posted by oDrori on Sep-25-2002 21:04:

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 21:06:

quote:
Originally posted by oDrori

My speech.

come again?

Posted by speedracer_mec on Sep-25-2002 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR

or maybe uve lsitened to prog so much when it was better and are now bored of the other stuff thats coming out!

why do you tech peopel think your so advanced and above everyone else? it makes me fucking sick! and you wonder why peopel lash out at your genre? because your all fucking snobs towards everything else coz "its for kids" and your "above it all" HAHAHAHA
i never said nuthin to trash anyone else....i was explaining to tranceseeker wut he is prolly thinking and me too...i like all genres..i like to hop around.

**jams out to..Yakooza-Cocaine 2002 [Derb Remix]**

Posted by basvh on Sep-25-2002 21:11:

i remember when tis forum started about 2 years ago everybody was complaining about oakenfold. now everbody sais he is god. 3 months ago everbody said tiesto was god , now everbody makes fun of him. things change quickly in dance music

i say just shut up, just listen to the music you like. it doesn�t matter from witch country it comes. it doesn�t matter who made it. a few years ago 2 dj�s said something important at the love parade just think about that quote

greets

Posted by Ste on Sep-25-2002 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
i never said nuthin..i was explaining to tranceseeker wut he is prolly thinking and me too...i like all genres..i like to hop around.

**jams out to..Yakooza-Cocaine 2002 [Derb Remix]**

your theory is the theory that all high priests of progressive hold, which imo is quite sad and deluded, and manufactured because anything tech-based is a buzz word and cant be looked down jsut because of that! i mean maybe in your country that theory is true, but not hear. but at the end of the day if i say break are shit or prog is shit (i dont mind prog) you gonna call me an uncultured hcild who doesnt knwo enough about the msuic yet, at least judging from your "theory"

Posted by Dj O'Callaghan on Sep-25-2002 21:12:

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dont make slowed down HHC for 12 year olds thats for sure...

LMAO

Posted by oDrori on Sep-25-2002 21:14:

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR
come again?

I meant I agree.

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
i never said nuthin to trash anyone else....i was explaining to tranceseeker wut he is prolly thinking and me too...i like all genres..i like to hop around.

**jams out to..Yakooza-Cocaine 2002 [Derb Remix]**

Don't think he actually assaulted you personhally, neither did I.

I think that since commercial stuff is more easily heard, you start hearing it, and wonder if there's anything 'better', get to a new style, which is a bit harder to find depending on how hard you search etc. till you simply reach the place where you look for the next thing which happens to be more underground at the time but simply ain't so good (TO YOU) hence why some ppl don't "Move on" from the cheezy FerryArminDumondeSHOKK stage.

Posted by .-WooDY-. on Sep-25-2002 21:35:

Re: Re: Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by DuMonde TrAnCeR

i think its becuase in germany the trance scene is least musically arrogant compared to holland and england, in our country everthing seems to want to be "cool" whereas in germany everyone is respected for what they do which brings about a more diverse trance culture and at the end of the day its all about having a good time, not pulling up a seat on the dancefloor and analysing honed progressive beats.

agreed

Posted by E-Trancer on Sep-25-2002 21:40:

Germany is still the country where trance was born...

Posted by oDrori on Sep-25-2002 21:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveC

less of the "fuck" please

Party pooper

quote:
Originally posted by E-Trancer
Germany is still the country where trance was born...

Go Kraftwerk !!!!

Posted by TranceSeeker on Sep-25-2002 22:09:

Posted by Arstmak on Sep-25-2002 22:27:

So now we call Dumonde/SHOKK/Cosmic Gate cheese? Come on people, think for a second!

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