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Originally posted by xfer well i can understand for some that grew listening to them, but to me if these guys never hit the seen, trance would still be trance as in hipnotic.. not builds and cheezy stabs lines for all the E peeps

true...
but it's not a bad thing though, music spun by them has a large partyeffect. More easier to listen to then the underground sounds of before and like the progressive now.
Just let them do, if they like the music it's good for them, I liked it too but I grew over it and think now the same as you, I would also say they destroyed it, but if I look back to them, they made trance big no matter what u say

Ok tranceseeker, So are you telling me that the trance today is good? It shouldn't even be called trance anymore.
Trance = A hypnotic, cataleptic, or ecstatic state. Give me a track that can put me in that state that has been made between 98-2002 and i will bow down to PVD and others. This was before i just seen your post hehe, you on the same level as me.

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Originally posted by Az well after listening to the prophet (the only one i've got handy), I can say there's definately some builds in that one...... Most of the tracks (if not all) you mentioned are from europe, where the "rave" scene was extremely popular (well before 92 when your holiness started to listen to it), and I'm pretty sure people took E at raves then... so it's not like it's a new thing..... but then again how many raves have you actually been to

None yet, mummy won't let him

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Originally posted by xfer I mean come on you haven't even heard most of these tracks but then you flame me for not liking Pvd or the style of trance these days.

I don't like PVD either, but anyway, don't criticise on people because they have a different view on their music.
It's the same as a thunderdomefreak says to u
"Man those tracks are the worst cheese I've ever heard"
And so it is with every different kind of music.
I don't like the cheesy stuff anymore either but I got respect for them because I know they look different on "their" music then I do.

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Originally posted by xfer Ok tranceseeker, So are you telling me that the trance today is good? It shouldn't even be called trance anymore. Trance = A hypnotic, cataleptic, or ecstatic state. Give me a track that can put me in that state that has been made between 98-2002 and i will bow down to PVD and others. This was before i just seen your post hehe, you on the same level as me.

Tranceseeker, I'm truly feel sorry for you if your on the same level as this guy

not exactly as me, see he respects your type of music. I don't, and i never will.

Xfer I wanna try those songs but I am lazy, zip em and send them to me for the love of god

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There is always tracks that stand out from different years in dance music. I listened to kraftwerk and tangerine dream when i was 9 years old, but these were the first real trance i ever heard from dj x-ray vs binman - battle of the techno gods. my first dj tape ever way back in 93/94. tracks they played:

jones and stephenson - the first rebirth
elevator - shinny
marmion - schoonenberg
Return of the living acid - the big dipper
mega lo mania - emaotion
li kwan - point zero
sourmash - pilgermige to paradise
sunbeam - outside world
dj tim vs misjah - access
Jens - Loops & Tings (Fruit Loops Mix)
Omniglobe - C'mon Yo
Robert Armani - Circus Bells (Hardfloor Remix)
Humate - Love Stimulation

(just put the last one in cause i know some person will say something)

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Originally posted by xfer Ok tranceseeker, So are you telling me that the trance today is good? It shouldn't even be called trance anymore. Trance = A hypnotic, cataleptic, or ecstatic state. Give me a track that can put me in that state that has been made between 98-2002 and i will bow down to PVD and others. This was before i just seen your post hehe, you on the same level as me.

Yeah trance is a hypnotic, etc...To get that feeling I listen to progressive, there's nothing better then a journey through progressive music, look in my sig, its the attitude...
Trance nowadays if more focussed on the partydegree.
But who cares, if a tune is good then its good.
BTW tracks from 98-2002
Universal Nation, xpander, heaven scent.
I bet u go crazy if u hear them on a party

Li Kwan - Point Zero one of the few tunes from back in the day that can still hold it's own in a set...... it's beautiful, Matt Darey at his best...
New remixes coming out soon as well

Rofl hemp i dont think your email would allow 100mb plus , i know my email won't , pm me ill send them on icq

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Originally posted by Az Li Kwan - Point Zero one of the few tunes from back in the day that can still hold it's own in a set...... it's beautiful, Matt Darey at his best... New remixes coming out soon as well

excellent stuff, my vinyl copy is a really crackly reactivate 3 x 12" jobby, could do with a brand spanking new original mix vinyl

I did PM you, and I didnt mean for you to send by e-mail. Use msn to send it, I'll have to get ICQ again. PM me your number

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Originally posted by TranceSeeker BTW tracks from 98-2002 Universal Nation, xpander, heaven scent. I bet u go crazy if u hear them on a party

everyone goes crazy at a party
Tony Walker - Field of Joy
Eon - Pocket Damage
East West - The Love I Lost
Perpetuous Dreamer - Future Funland
Rank 1 - Airwave
Gouryella - Ligaya
System F - Out of the Blue
System F - Elevate
System F - Exhale
Chakra - Home (Above and Beyond mix)
PvD - For an Angel
Solar Stone - 7 Cities
Energy 52 - Cafe del Mar (3 n 1 mix)
Signum - Second Wave
Signum - Coming on Strong
Signum - What ya Got 4 me
DJ Tiesto - Suburban Train
Planet Perfecto - Not Over Yet (Matt Darey mix)
Westbam Vs Red Jerry - Wizards of the Sonic (Matt Darey mix)

there just a few that spring to mind IMMEDIATELY xfer, so if i actually sit down and have a proper think about it
Could go on for hours

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Originally posted by xfer not exactly as me, see he respects your type of music. I don't, and i never will.

well you're a big slack gash then

i have universal nation, close.. heven scent is good too but not hipnotic , haven't heard expander ill get it then tellyou what i think

are u ok, man

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Originally posted by xfer ok tell me this then... why are some of the tracks that i posted.. still being play to date, from top dj's over the world. And none Pvd tracks being played anymore including For an Angel. And Banning would be just childish .. im just trying open your minds to better music that you never even listened to.

Are u screwed or somethin, I only know a few of those.....the list could stand some alterin......the fact that u dis pvd right there shows what ur all about....uguh

oh.....from cali...

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Originally posted by xfer i have universal nation, close.. heven scent is good too but not hipnotic , haven't heard expander ill get it then tellyou what i think

not heard x-pander
and you have the audacity to diss trance.....you really are a fool

Re: are u ok, man

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Originally posted by djRyan Jonathon the fact that u dis pvd right there shows what ur all about....uguh

nuff said rite there ^

now thats more like it

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Originally posted by Az everyone goes crazy at a party Tony Walker - Field of Joy Eon - Pocket Damage East West - The Love I Lost Perpetuous Dreamer - Future Funland Rank 1 - Airwave Gouryella - Ligaya System F - Out of the Blue System F - Elevate System F - Exhale Chakra - Home (Above and Beyond mix) PvD - For an Angel Solar Stone - 7 Cities Energy 52 - Cafe del Mar (3 n 1 mix) Signum - Second Wave Signum - Coming on Strong Signum - What ya Got 4 me DJ Tiesto - Suburban Train Planet Perfecto - Not Over Yet (Matt Darey mix) Westbam Vs Red Jerry - Wizards of the Sonic (Matt Darey mix) there just a few that spring to mind IMMEDIATELY xfer, so if i actually sit down and have a proper think about it Could go on for house

Now thats an actual list

tell me why
together we will conquer
face to face
words
avenue
columbia
out there and back
beautiful place
forbidden fruit


list goes on and on

I understand people do not like paul van dyk or may not like stuff but you have to admit the man has production skillz if he keeps making stuff like this.

BTW...go find the xpander....shuve it
greatest song of all time

yes cali .. and ive been all over the world mister canada. Im not dissin trance. What is being made today is not Trance :P

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Originally posted by Az Tranceseeker, I'm truly feel sorry for you if your on the same level as this guy

It's not that I wanna support this guy on his statements.
I completely understand what he means, I know the days where Marco Bailey - sniff made the dancefloors explode.
Music evolved, it became a more appreciated kind of sound loved by millions instead of thousands. But it doesn't mean that it's crap nowadays.
OK, there IS a lot of crap but the way you and me and everyone listens to music NOW is different then back then.
It's all about money, the more money u want, the larger your public should be.
And if u want a larger public, the sounds u make must be easier in the ears.
Why u think top 50 tunes are top 50 tunes?
The tunes are made to reach a mass of people.
Tunes that everyone loves.
Why does my father like 4strings - into the night and not decepticons - eastern promise.
Because it's easier in the ears...
The whole thing around trance will never be the same then before, that's why u have to switch to progressive and "techno" to get the feeling from back in the days.
Techno completely brings u the underground sound

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heven scent is good too but not hipnotic

Ever tried LSD? Makes even Britney Spears sound hypnotic.

push - strange world (2000 remake) theres an uplifting, melodic, hypnotic tune for you between 98-02

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