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Originally posted by DJ RANN You sound exactly like that twat of a spokesperson (the one with the south african accent) that Benji's party wheels out whenever they need to justify the killing of Palestinian children. "Islam" is not at war - ther are 3 billion of them, if Islam was "at war" with isreal, there would be no Isreal as we know it and we'd be changing the name map back to palestine right about now. Have you ever thought that like the way the USA supports israel, there are some Arab countries that support Palestinians? Iran being one of them. You could call illegal Israeli bulldozers "terror groups". I'm not saying either side is right, just understand there's two side to this coin, and in the last 50 years, Isreal has grabbed more land and become more populous, while the palestinians, have lost huge swathes of land and had a population decrease. That's going to piss off a lot of neighbors, and unfortunately, they are surrounded by Arab, and muslim countries.

Who taught you to hate Jews? was it your parents or was it friends at school?

"3 billion muslims in the world"

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange neither does iran.

Iran is sponsoring Hamas and Hezbollah=Iran has an interest in killing random Jewish people.

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are we talking about iran or islam? lets stick to iran shall we?

I wish we could separate those 2 things.

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so what? israel has killed iranian scientists. here is a list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._assassinations

May Satan have mercy on their souls.

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israel can't claim its squeaky clean. israel is as dirty as the whole lot. i think the fact that iran is a sponsor is hardly a justification to scuttle any deal.

That's ok, some people think police officers are murderers just like the common criminals they chase after.

Personally i think these deals are bullshit anyway because Iran can always buy nuclear weapons from Russia or NK.

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i really don't think any other country in the region really needs Israel's help to defend them.

What does that have to do with things?
The Saudis are obviously threatened by this whole situation just like the Israelis.

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this is laughable. Israel started the arms race. iran seeks them to keep up with other powers in the region.

Look at the map! why does Israeli nukes matter? it's obvious Israel will never attack Iran because Iran is a huge country which doesn't even have a boarder with Israel.

If you want to blame anyone BLAME AMERICA!
-America INVADED,conquer and killed like a billion people in Arab countries.
-America HAS ACTUALLY USED nuclear weapons in the past.

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i really don't see how anything you stated should impede some kind of deal.

Of course you don't. Because you simply don't care.
Tell me with a straight face that you'll be sad to hear about an atomic bomb landing on Tel-Aviv.

Your way of taught indicates that you will even justify an attack of this nature.

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Originally posted by Serial Killer keep living in denial you ape lmao

Lol... how ironic.


sincerely,
god's chosen Ape

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Originally posted by Viber Who taught you to hate Jews? was it your parents or was it friends at school? "3 billion muslims in the world"

It was a typo - I mean to write "1" but per the other thread my fucking shitty asus laptop keyboard is on the fritz."

No hate at all, I have both jewish friends and extend family. It's Israeli politicians I really don't like and Benji is one of the worst to have inflicted himself upon us.

I honestly have no dog in this race. It's just crazy the amount of bullshit that they spout about being oppressed and discriminated against while basically crushing another population.


The sad thing is, you speak to many young israelis and palestians and they just don't want this endless war anymore. It's dogged old conservatives just desperately hanging on to power that perpetuates it all.

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Originally posted by Viber Tell me with a straight face that you'll be sad to hear about an atomic bomb landing on Tel-Aviv.

Thing is, we Jews will always incur the wrath and hatred of other nations unless we follow G-d's commandments as prescribed to us in the Torah. There is really no other way around it. He already told us so long ago in the Holy texts, and history has proven as much, time and time again.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN The sad thing is, you speak to many young israelis and palestians and they just don't want this endless war anymore.

A poll was actually conducted in Israel, asking how many arabs/muslims were happy/content to be living in Israel, and the majority were.

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Originally posted by AlphaStarred Thing is, we Jews will always incur the wrath and hatred of other nations unless we follow G-d's commandments as prescribed to us in the Torah. There is really no other way around it. He already told us so long ago in the Holy texts, and history has proven as much, time and time again.

you are a full-on nutter.

I should never wander into any type of international relations thread on this board. The amount of inane stupidity in this thread is, quite frankly, embarrassing.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN It was a typo - I mean to write "1" but per the other thread my fucking shitty asus laptop keyboard is on the fritz." No hate at all, I have both jewish friends and extend family. It's Israeli politicians I really don't like and Benji is one of the worst to have inflicted himself upon us. I honestly have no dog in this race. It's just crazy the amount of bullshit that they spout about being oppressed and discriminated against while basically crushing another population. The sad thing is, you speak to many young israelis and palestians and they just don't want this endless war anymore. It's dogged old conservatives just desperately hanging on to power that perpetuates it all.

Netanyahu is not very well liked in Israel right now, i don't like him as well. I think he is the worst kind of politician (makes great speeches but does nothing).

You say you don't hate Jews yet you think you are better than them, you think they have no morals and that they do everything out of malicious intent ("murdering children","crushing another population") and you justify Iran's support of Hamas as if their target is to improve Palestinian lives when their actual target is to SACRIFICE them for an empty religious cause.

But you don't hate Jews, some of your best friends are Jews.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit Lol... how ironic. sincerely, god's chosen Ape

awwwww. did i strike a nerve you ape ?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN fuck you're a moron.

medvedev was and always will be putin's puppet..

If Earth was Thundera, Jews would be the ThunderCats.

If it makes you feel better Viber, I hate Jews.

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Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay If it makes you feel better Viber, I hate Jews.

Everyone knows you're a Jew in the closet, Jay.

Jay's a Jew

I have 5 foreskins.

Yeah but the nose. If you had a beard and funny looking hat you'd be so jewish.

I stand by my fiveskin. Also, I'm good at sports.

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Originally posted by Viber Netanyahu is not very well liked in Israel right now, i don't like him as well. I think he is the worst kind of politician (makes great speeches but does nothing).

You may not like him but he'll probably win which means a lot of people in Isreal actually do like him. I think you have it wrong; he does a lot. In fact he's ordered more settlements and property demolitions in gaza than any of his predecessors.

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Originally posted by Viber You say you don't hate Jews yet you think you are better than them, you think they have no morals and that they do everything out of malicious intent ("murdering children","crushing another population") and you justify Iran's support of Hamas as if their target is to improve Palestinian lives when their actual target is to SACRIFICE them for an empty religious cause.

Where did I post that I'm better than anyone? It's amazing (and quite dangerous) that you can't criticize Israel without being called a Jew Hater. I said I don't like that the Israel complains about being discriminated against while they crush another population and illegally destroy homes to take land that per the well documented UN resolutions, isn't theirs. You ca0'tn say "arabs hate us!" then destroy their homes and take their land and still have no clue why they may not be your best friends.

I'm no fan of Hamas, but Israel (and there's a great washington post article on this) basically helped create them by crushing the more moderate parts of the PLO.

Again, I've got personal affiliation in this argument, but there is a difference between criticizing a regime or country for their political or military acts, without saying you "hate" those people.

Damn, RANN, tone down the anti-Semitism a bit, thanks.

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Originally posted by Lews Damn, RANN, tone down the anti-Semitism a bit, thanks.

Lol, well played Lews

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Originally posted by DJ RANN You may not like him but he'll probably win which means a lot of people in Isreal actually do like him. I think you have it wrong; he does a lot. In fact he's ordered more settlements and property demolitions in gaza than any of his predecessors.

I actually don't care THAT much about the conflict. I believe it will remain virtually the same regardless of what Israel does in terms of settlements,property demolitions etc.

The biggest issue in Israel is the economy\Housing\food\gas prices.

The election system in Israel is kinda dumb though...in the last election Netanyahu only got 25% yet he became PM, in the election before that he actually LOST the elections but his rival was unable to form a government so Bibi became PM on a technicality.

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Where did I post that I'm better than anyone? It's amazing (and quite dangerous) that you can't criticize Israel without being called a Jew Hater. I said I don't like that the Israel complains about being discriminated against while they crush another population and illegally destroy homes to take land that per the well documented UN resolutions, isn't theirs. You ca0'tn say "arabs hate us!" then destroy their homes and take their land and still have no clue why they may not be your best friends. I'm no fan of Hamas, but Israel (and there's a great washington post article on this) basically helped create them by crushing the more moderate parts of the PLO. Again, I've got personal affiliation in this argument, but there is a difference between criticizing a regime or country for their political or military acts, without saying you "hate" those people.

I have no problem with criticism towards Israel, but you seem to think that Israelis are "murdering children" or abusing innocent people for fucks and giggles and i honestly can't understand that train of thought.

If you think that Israelis are motivated by blood thirst and greed then i find no logic and that - just hate.

You are also throwing "facts" you must have pulled from some shady sources...like when you said the Pal' population has decreased:
https://www.google.co.il/publicdata...ISR&hl=en&dl=en

And besides all of that, do you actually give a fuck about the people in Gaza? let's say we give them a country tomorrow morning under the rule of Hamas - that place will be hell on earth for it's citizens and Hamas will never give up on it's plans to kill infidels and Jews.

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Originally posted by Lews Damn, RANN, tone down the anti-Semitism a bit, thanks.

I wish i had my own cheerleader here for once

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Originally posted by Viber I actually don't care THAT much about the conflict.

Sure because you're not Palestinian. They really do care about it.

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Originally posted by Viber I believe it will remain virtually the same regardless of what Israel does in terms of settlements,property demolitions etc.

Hold on. You honestly believe that if there were a true two state solution that the situation would remain the same? Come on, don't be that naive.

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Originally posted by Viber The biggest issue in Israel is the economy\Housing\food\gas prices.

Sure for Israelis. It's more a case of if my fucking house is going to be demolished for people on the other side of that wall.

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Originally posted by Viber The election system in Israel is kinda dumb though...in the last election Netanyahu only got 25% yet he became PM, in the election before that he actually LOST the elections but his rival was unable to form a government so Bibi became PM on a technicality.

Sure, but it happens everywhere. Bush lost both the popular vote and the Electoral vote and still became president.

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Originally posted by Viber I have no problem with criticism towards Israel, but you seem to think that Israelis are "murdering children" or abusing innocent people for fucks and giggles and i honestly can't understand that train of thought. If you think that Israelis are motivated by blood thirst and greed then i find no logic and that - just hate. I'm just saying have a bit of compassion.

Blood thirsty? Firstly, I didn't say that but let's just take the recent war, was a direct example of the difference in standard between the two sides. Someone in Israel would show how their crown molding in their nice apartment was cracked by one of the few rockets that managed to escape the iron dome, then they would show and entire apartment complex or block of houses razed to the ground in gaza by the air force.

This was compiled by the Wall Street Journal:



Or if you want it over time:

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Originally posted by Viber And besides all of that, do you actually give a fuck about the people in Gaza?

Wow, you clearly don't.

and talk about anti-semetic.

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Originally posted by Viber let's say we give them a country tomorrow morning under the rule of Hamas - that place will be hell on earth for it's citizens and Hamas will never give up on it's plans to kill infidels and Jews.

I've already said Hamas isn't the answer and I'm certainly no fan at all, but let's get real here: Hamas is not the ruling party for Palestinians and they will never be recognized internationally as they are classed as a known terrorist organization. You know this. The world knows this, so stop throwing it around like that's the only inevitable result from a two state solution. The only way Hamas will ever be given any legitimacy is if they abandon their arms.

P.s. Lews was trolling me. I haven't said anything antisemitic, nor would it. Criticizing Israel for it conduct towards another race or people does not even constitute discrimination, let alone Antisemitism.

Israel has the mentality of a insecure kid who was bullied at school. From their inception they've taken and held everything they have by force. Long ago they had an opportunity to be magnanimous victors instead they pursued their advantage, humiliating and oppressing their defeated opponent.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Sure because you're not Palestinian. They really do care about it.

So why aren't they revolting? why aren't they demonstrating for PLUR in the streets?

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Hold on. You honestly believe that if there were a true two state solution that the situation would remain the same? Come on, don't be that naive.

There can't be any true two states solution because the Palestinians will always decline any solution which doesn't compromise the security of Israel.

Are you familiar with the Egyptian initiative? The Palestinians received an offer from Egypt to form an independent state 5 times bigger than GAZA + autonomy for the PLO in the West Bank, yet they refused like they always do. Why would you take care of your children when you can make them a soldier for Allah?

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Sure for Israelis. It's more a case of if my fucking house is going to be demolished for people on the other side of that wall.

What about Israelis having missiles being launched on them daily? what about Israelis getting stabbed and run over by terrorists?

Why are those houses demolished exactly? fill me up on the details on that because right next to me there is a friendly,loyal Arab village and no houses are demolished over there.

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Blood thirsty? Firstly, I didn't say that but let's just take the recent war, was a direct example of the difference in standard between the two sides. Someone in Israel would show how their crown molding in their nice apartment was cracked by one of the few rockets that managed to escape the iron dome, then they would show and entire apartment complex or block of houses razed to the ground in gaza by the air force.

And now you are showing your discontent about the fact that Israelis have defense systems and Shelters while the Palestinians don't have a better arsenal of weapons.
THIS ISN'T FAIR!
Would more Jews being killed satisfy you more? will it make things more even? Or should Israel stand by while hundred of missiles are fired on it's citizens? (which are Jews,Muslims,Christians,Druze,Atheists etc)

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This was compiled by the Wall Street Journal:

No IDF soldiers are brought into account here. And again, i apologize no more Jews were killed to make things more fair in your eyes.

Want me to show you a graph about Arabs killed in America vs Americans killed by Muslims? will it make 9\11 OK in your eyes?

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Wow, you clearly don't. and talk about anti-semetic.

Of course i do, that's exactly why i want them to get better education,rebel against whoever is using them as pawns and then prosper in their own country.
Happy ADVANCED Muslims=Happy Israel.

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I've already said Hamas isn't the answer and I'm certainly no fan at all, but let's get real here: Hamas is not the ruling party for Palestinians and they will never be recognized internationally as they are classed as a known terrorist organization. You know this. The world knows this, so stop throwing it around like that's the only inevitable result from a two state solution. The only way Hamas will ever be given any legitimacy is if they abandon their arms. P.s. Lews was trolling me. I haven't said anything antisemitic, nor would it. Criticizing Israel for it conduct towards another race or people does not even constitute discrimination, let alone Antisemitism.

Hamas is calling all the shots in Gaza and they were elected to be the rulers, stop marginalizing their influence.

Any idea for a western democracy in Gaza (or many other Muslim nations) is a joke, Democracy is a transitional period for them AT BEST.


*Lews was trolling me. He enjoys that old joke about Jews calling everyone antisemitic regardless of their actual views.

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Originally posted by Jon_Snow Israel has the mentality of a insecure kid who was bullied at school. From their inception they've taken and held everything they have by force. Long ago they had an opportunity to be magnanimous victors instead they pursued their advantage, humiliating and oppressing their defeated opponent.

wut

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