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Posted by tehlord on Aug-09-2016 12:48:

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
i think you're right.

you know the best place to try and get an order in?

i.e. the biggest online retailer for gear? as the smaller outlets will likely be forced to the back of the queue...


I would try Guitar Guitar or Red Dog Music first. They've always given me first class customer service and also price match. Scan is also worth a look as most people don't realise they also do synth gear.

They're all big enough to carry stock but for some reason people flock to the shitty customer service of DV247.

It's also worth considering that $999 may actually translate to a price over �1k here.


quote:
Originally posted by Mel David
It does sound very mono doesn't it? I hope its just because they used a mono cable to record. One thing I actually love about the Evolver is that it sounds stereo and even has seperate outputs for each of the four voices.


Trying to find out on the GS thread, but they usually prefer hundreds of pages of speculation than actual facts.


Posted by cryophonik on Aug-09-2016 15:03:

quote:
Originally posted by rubez
price: $999.99




That's way too high. They'll never sell any at that price.


Posted by evo8 on Aug-09-2016 15:11:

ridiculous price even though in euro it will probably be more than 999


Posted by aquila on Aug-09-2016 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik


That's way too high. They'll never sell any at that price.


My advice would be to not jump on the early bandwagon. Give it 6-12 months for demand to recede and hopefully the price will eventually decrease too.


Posted by Mel David on Aug-09-2016 17:39:

There can't be too many keyboardists out there that want a poly analog. It's not a bread & butter synth. Gospel musicians won't want it.


Posted by cryophonik on Aug-09-2016 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by aquila
My advice would be to not jump on the early bandwagon. Give it 6-12 months for demand to recede and hopefully the price will eventually decrease too.


I was joking, of course - that price is ridiculously low! I'm guessing that will put the module somewhere around $700-800? Not that it matters to me, since I'm not in the market for another synth these days, but I think they're going to have a hard time keeping up with demand.


Posted by evo8 on Aug-09-2016 18:34:

Will listen to more demos before its available but i think i will probably nab one of these


Posted by aquila on Aug-09-2016 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I was joking, of course - that price is ridiculously low!


and there I was genuinely thinking it was too high...especially since it's a Behringer and likely to break in a year.


Posted by cryophonik on Aug-09-2016 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by aquila
and there I was genuinely thinking it was too high...especially since it's a Behringer and likely to break in a year.


Meh, I don't know about that. I had several Behringer units (e.g., compressors, EQs, and gates) in my PA rack back in my live band days and they were all roadworthy, were constructed solidly, and handled heavy use/abuse better than some other brands that I owned. Some of those units lasted 6-8 years of continuous work (3-5 shows/week). I also had one of their headphone distribution units and an FX unit in my home studio for several years and they also served me well. The headphone unit is the only one that ever failed on me (1 channel after 5 or so years of continuous use). The problem I had with them is that they could be noisy, so you had to be selective in how you used them. The noise levels were negligible for live band work, but they were high enough that I rarely/never used them in a recording signal chain.

Granted, that's all been rackmount gear. I have seen reports that construction quality on some of their other products (e.g., stompboxes) is pretty poor, so who knows what to expect with this synth. A few of the comments I've seen from people who have actually used the synth claim that the construction seems to be very solid. I guess we'll find out soon.


Posted by tehlord on Aug-09-2016 22:03:

Behringer stuff doesn't just break down, it's a myth. The complaint about it is that it's always been sonically second rate compared to stuff costing 10 or 100 times more.

Well, duh.

Even that's not true any more.


Posted by tehlord on Aug-10-2016 10:19:

Looks like there is oscillator stereo spread too, although I'm not sure why the parameter isn't in the VCO section!


Posted by tehlord on Aug-10-2016 12:43:

Best hardware synth mod matrix ever?

I think it might be.

Stereo unison spread at about 19.00


Posted by Mel David on Aug-10-2016 14:15:

Okay getting more interesting. What I want to know now is the internal MIDI resolution of control change messages. If it only has a range of 0-127 then you will still get zipper-noise despite this being an analog synth.


Posted by evo8 on Aug-10-2016 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Best hardware synth mod matrix ever?

I think it might be.

Stereo unison spread at about 19.00



cool vid

yeah mod matrix looks really full, like almost every parameter can be modulated
packed full of FX as well which can be handy

like the way he said it was easy to program, thats a must for me

wonderful sound from the arp at 10:52


Posted by cryophonik on Aug-10-2016 18:13:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Looks like there is oscillator stereo spread too, although I'm not sure why the parameter isn't in the VCO section!


I haven't watched the video yet, but it appears that the Edit button is used to access the various destinations that the VCA (source) slider can modulate? If so, it would appear that Pan Spread is a separate parameter that's hidden somewhere else?


Posted by tehlord on Aug-10-2016 18:19:

Yes it is shown in the video in one of the VCA options (at least I think it was).

I'm impressed at how clear and easy to use the screen is. It looks like they've really nailed that aspect of the workflow.

You wait until you see the mod matrix too. It's just like a plugin (which is good!)


Posted by evo8 on Aug-10-2016 18:27:

I didnt see any mention of FM anywhere at all but i guess thats being a bit greedy


Posted by tehlord on Aug-10-2016 19:24:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
I didnt see any mention of FM anywhere at all but i guess thats being a bit greedy


I'm not sure, but I don't think it'd be too hard to implement with an update as you could use the DCO2 tone mod slider.


Posted by evo8 on Aug-10-2016 20:19:

hopefully, nice for experimental sheeit


Posted by cryophonik on Aug-11-2016 17:56:

Finally watched the last vid. Goddammit, Behringer. My GAS was in remission, but now it's coming back. Assholes.


Posted by MSZ on Aug-11-2016 18:01:

Matrixbrute looks way cooler


Posted by tehlord on Aug-11-2016 18:02:

And so far the funniest thing is that there hasn't been a single good sound demo


Posted by cryophonik on Aug-11-2016 20:22:


Posted by evo8 on Aug-11-2016 22:14:

yeah sounding nice

cant wait till the musictrackjp guy gets his hands on one - in fact Behringer should have shipped one over to him, love his demos


Posted by tehlord on Aug-11-2016 22:47:

Definitely excited now.

I think this is probably the first synth since the Virus where the FX engine is going to be so integral to the overall character of the finished sound, although I'm not sold on that reverb in this demo at least. I know there are a few models in there though.

Basic tone sounds good. It's not top end (Micromac, OB6) good, but it's closer to them than it is to stuff like the Minilogue or BS2 etc.

Sound design wet dream, the mod matrix.....fook!


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