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Originally posted by biznology yah me and Proxi had a PM war over this a LOONG time ago. im sure im not one of the TAs she loves, but i just wish more people could get over the fact that Bush sucks and treat the US TAers like we are just average, intelligent people....

Well, actually since that whole thing I've really come to appreciate you biz It's always a good thing when you get to "talk things over" in PM and come to the conclusion you've both made mistakes etc. And we did that eh You're cool

oh and Mike..that was about Johan Gielen Wasn't that fun hahaha Just wait till I come over for NY (PLEASE!!!) to kick yer british arse heh

hi miss proximus

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Originally posted by Bedrock Why do some people consider a critical arguement about the weaknesses in the American political system as 'American Bashing'? are some people that jaded that they cannot see past a paragraph of words and understand the point of the argument rather than immediately going off on tangents saying "Oh! Don't Bash Us! We'll kick your ass!" recognize

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus I haven't read the whole thread (just page 1 so far). I guess all I'm trying to say is..I'm sorry if I hurt any of your feelings and for being ignorant myself and stuck up etc... I'd love to come over, tour your country and have you prove my anti-sentiments towards the US wrong (and I'm not kidding here) later

We in the US dont hate the world, you have no reason to fear the US. Foriegners are very interesting people, some have some very interesting stories. I'm pretty open minded, which is part of why I also disagree with all this anti-americanism. America isn't perfect by any means, but we are our own country, and the rest of the world should respect that.

The thing I dont get is, with all the Al-Queda, & other terrorist agencies around why people of the Western world direct their anger towards America rather than to those who want to kill all us westerners.

I also think that finally, because Blair of Great Britain is helping us on Iraq, that we should help Blair defeat the Irish Republican Army terrorist group. It's the least we can do... Helping other nations fight their terrorists. Israel has the Hamas, Russia the Chechens... We can gain a lot of allies by helping other nations fight their own terrorists groups. Then we have these militia networks in the US too, that have been known to engage in underground anti-government activity. McVeigh committed one of the most heinous terrorist acts in America, and he was an American.

On a side note some Canadian leader had a political embarrassment recently, having called George Bush a moron. Talk about a slip of the tounge.

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus oh and Mike..that was about Johan Gielen Wasn't that fun hahaha Just wait till I come over for NY (PLEASE!!!) to kick yer british arse heh

i'll look forward to it

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Originally posted by Verona^My On a side note some Canadian leader had a political embarrassment recently, having called George Bush a moron. Talk about a slip of the tounge.

She was just an aide of the PM, and it was in a private conversation, overheard by a news reporter. Our current government has been a target of the media lately, and they like to pick at things like that. I'm sure many many people have called Bush a moron. Hehe

Regarding the topic, I think the US is in the spotlight, and its citizens should get used to it. What other country has so many relationships with other countries, has walmarts and mcdonalds and coca cola established world-wide, military bases scattered across the globe, and its every actions followed daily by the news?

the US is so internationally active, and its actions affect us globally, so of course it topics of discussion will generally be based on US actions more than other countries.

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Originally posted by Verona^My ... On a side note some Canadian leader had a political embarrassment recently, having called George Bush a moron. Talk about a slip of the tounge.

it was Chretien(sp) and hes French....talk about uninformed Americans!

ffs

with the amount of anti-american threads/sentiment spewed-out on these boards, it's enough to make anyone annoyed. i don't think americans ane overly sensitive, they're probably just sick of being bashed all day long. it pisses me off, and i'm not even an american patriot...

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I also think that finally, because Blair of Great Britain is helping us on Iraq, that we should help Blair defeat the Irish Republican Army terrorist group. It's the least we can do... Helping other

I think this is very very wrong, Northern Ireland is none of Americas business plus, your soldiers bodies returning home in body bags every day, fighting in a war which is not their war is wrong too.

The IRA yes they are a terrorist group. Yes they have carried out murders, bombings, punishment beatings, and injured some people for life. However Northern Ireland is something you will never understand, theres too much history behind it for you to understand too much hatred.

For Centuries the British had been in Ireland, Catholics (Nationlists) who were the population of Ireland were forced to starve, Whilst protestant (Loyalist) colonists lived a life were they had good food, a roof over their head, education for their children, whilst their armies led by fucking scum like Oliver Cromwell and Prince William of Orange, who went around slaughtering villages of people because they didn't agree with their views. In 1920 we're aloud to be a country after several uprisings, however we're not able to have Ulster (Northern Ireland) which remains in the Hands of Royality of the United Kingdom it still does today.

The bogsides (ghetto's) in Northern Ireland were where Nationalists had to live they were poor crime ridden estates, Lots of Nationalists were unemployed, they had no human rights at all, treated like pieces of fucking shit, we were fucking second class citizens, so in 1969 after riots between Nationalists and Loyalists, British troops were sent in to restore order, the IRA then carried out attacks on the troops and loyalist population, then the day known as Bloody Sunday 30th of January 1972, during a peacefull human rights march in Derry, 13 unarmed nationalists were shot dead by trigger happy bastard paratroopers, then every single sign up point for the provisional IRA was full of young nationalists willing to die for their beliefs and rights.

After 30 years of sectarian violence we had the Good Friday peace talks, its now at sort of stand still, but still Loyalist terrorist scum like the UVF, and Red Hand Defenders still carry out murders like fucking killing unarmed postmen on their way to work and unarmed catholic taxi drivers, how long do you think untill people start bearing arms from weapon caches to protect their own people? And how dare anyone ever compared them to the likes of Al Queda because they fucking have negioations, to some people in Ireland their seen as heroes even if you all think their murderous villians, One right doesn't make a wrong too! look at the fucking UVF, UDA, LVF, Red Hand defenders, Orange Volunteers.




Very law abiding, politically correct lot of people them shitbags look like.

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Originally posted by Verona^My I also think that finally, because Blair of Great Britain is helping us on Iraq, that we should help Blair defeat the Irish Republican Army terrorist group. .

fuck you verona stay out unless you know your shit!!! bet you dont even know know why the troubles started!

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Originally posted by InsomnEac with the amount of anti-american threads/sentiment spewed-out on these boards, it's enough to make anyone annoyed. i don't think americans ane overly sensitive, they're probably just sick of being bashed all day long. it pisses me off, and i'm not even an american patriot...

that's exactly the whole point of this thread.... i'd say that a good 70% of the posts out there regarding american policy is good intelligent stuff. besides the odd post like, "bush is a moron, let's burn him." there are many posts that are based on fact and throrough analysis. so how is ANY of that considered bashing?? in the wake of everything that has happened to america, it is only natural to defend their country so fervently. but i think sometimes you just need to step back and see the truth in what other people say.

if someone were to criticize the canadian government here (and there is no shortage of things to pick on) i don't think you'd see 100 canadians jumping in and accusing people of flaming and bashing. no government is perfect. if someone decides to point out some flaws in a politcal system, its not called bashing.

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Originally posted by Bedrock Why do some people consider a critical arguement about the weaknesses in the American political system as 'American Bashing'? are some people that jaded that they cannot see past a paragraph of words and understand the point of the argument rather than immediately going off on tangents saying "Oh! Don't Bash Us! We'll kick your ass!" recognize

because some of them love their country and way of life and take it as an insult? maybe because they constantly see negative threads about america they dont read it all properly and think it is bashing america? SOME people are like that, yes. and so what? perhaps if people like you didnt post useless threads like this one, or if other people didnt post so many threads about usa they wouldnt be pissed off! the usa has a global presence and you just have to accept it. you might not like but stiff shit. some people probably cant see past a paragraph of words and understand the point of the argument. well too bad. there are people like that everywhere, not just in the usa. and just because some of them post here on tranceaddict forums, they do not represent the entire population.

and verona^my....
thats a big statement. yes the ira has performed terrorist acts before, but now they are more into the political side of things with sinn fein. i think it has been a while since the ira was responsible for a car bombing or murder, its more extremist groups now. i wouldnt just label them a 'terrorist group' like that without reading the history of what and why they have done what the have done.

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Originally posted by Bedrock Why do SOME people consider a critical arguement about the weaknesses in the American political system as 'American Bashing'? are SOME people that jaded that they cannot see past a paragraph of words and understand the point of the argument rather than immediately going off on tangents saying "Oh! Don't Bash Us! We'll kick your ass!" recognize

i think the point of this post was lost somewhere amongst the chaos...

the US is the most influential country in the world there is no two ways about it. It is only natural that people will discuss and critique the workings of its political system as decisions made by the US have implications world wide. I guess there is a proportion of people who become overly defensive whenever this topic is brought up - perhaps this isnt suprising with all the senseless anti-america shit stirring that goes on, but you have to realise that there are some pretty pathetic arguements spewed up by people on both sides of the fence

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Originally posted by ascension you have to realise that there are some pretty pathetic arguements spewed up by people on both sides of the fence

Seriously

well bedrock its been over 2 weeks since you posted that, are you going to answer to what people have said? or was this just another one of you pointless posts? as someone said in mirc, 'attention seeker' comes to mind...

how about we never think about bashing america again, and while were at it, never criticize israel either. were americans or israelis and we know were right.

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Originally posted by Eisbaer how about we never think about bashing america again, and while were at it, never criticize israel either. were americans or israelis and we know were right.

the germans thought they and hitler were right too

also if you cant bash your own country whats the point of free speech?

free speech is tolerated. when will you begin to see that freedom of speech cannot be GUARENTEED by something so abstract as a document on paper, which cannot preserve itself.

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