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Originally posted by ga11agher I actually offered my own services to go over to LA and listen to the thousands of white labels Oakenfold has. Hell I'd even pay my own way for that privilege.

I'm in LA and he lives just up the road from me. I'll ask him if you want

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost The funniest thing about obsessing over these ancient ID's is how the DJ's themselves never seem to give a shit. If I played something amazing I'd certainly keep my hands on it, or at least make a point to sift it out of the clutter years later. But no matter how much you fawn over how amazing a piece of music is in your love letter asking for an ID, you rarely get more of a response than 'dont remeber sry', if you even get one at all. DJ's are some cold blooded muhfuggaz.

He still has this track. I'm fairly sure if my drunken memory serves me corretly, he played it at the Exchange in LA this past may on his Generations tour. I fucking went nuts. He also played alot of other stuff from is 99 tour.

That show was like reliving his 1999 world tour. I seriously just was in tears.

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Originally posted by tetatdo He still has this track. I'm fairly sure if my drunken memory serves me corretly, he played it at the Exchange in LA this past may on his Generations tour. I fucking went nuts. He also played alot of other stuff from is 99 tour. That show was like reliving his 1999 world tour. I seriously just was in tears.

I think we should avoid saying anything that could send the-sixth on another insane quest.

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Originally posted by djthunderbird I think at this point the best chance would be for someone to recreate the tune as someone mentioned in this thread.

We should just get Luke Chable to reconstruct it from scratch.

Would be cool if this track ended up with the same fate as that A-Force - Crystal Dawn track.
Only played in a single set back in 2003, gets a massive thread, one label manager finds it, contacts the producer and they release it three years later.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...=1#.WjzBEt_ibIU

So much bullshit spoken about this track.

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Originally posted by tetatdo He still has this track. I'm fairly sure if my drunken memory serves me corretly, he played it at the Exchange in LA this past may on his Generations tour. I fucking went nuts. He also played alot of other stuff from is 99 tour. That show was like reliving his 1999 world tour. I seriously just was in tears.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J So much bullshit spoken about this track.

Okay so I took a quick look into this and saw that his show in LA for this tour was actually on June 2nd, and not in May. And whatever, it was only a couple of days into a new month so I can see how you could confuse the two. But I scanned through that set inch by inch and at no point did I hear this record.

http://www.global-sets.com/paul-oak...es-02-jun-2017/

Unless I managed to skip over it (it's three hours, after all), why do people feel the need to make shit up about stuff like this?

EDIT: Full tracklisting. Three ID's, with the rest of the setlist filled with obvious classics that no one could ever mistake for the one in question (except maybe the opener):

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Tracklist 01. ID - ID [000:00] 02. Schiller - Das Glockenspiel (Humate Remix) [Data Records - DATA 9T] 03. Ferry Corsten Pres. Gouryella - Anahera (Original Mix) [Flashover Recordings - FLASH 118] 04. Lost Tribe - Gamemaster (Original Mix) [Hooj Choons - HOOJ 54] 05. ID - ID [025:30] 06. Dotan - Home (Ti�sto Vs. twoloud Remix) [Universal Music Digital Services - 00602547321923] 07. Mekka - Diamondback (Original Mix) [Perfecto - PERF 012T] 08. Tilt V Paul Van Dyk - Rendezvous (Quadraphonic Mix) [Perfecto - PERF 154T] 09. Ascension - Someone (Original Vocal Mix) [Perfecto - PERF 141T] 10. Three'n One - Sin City (Original Mix) [Fire Recordings - 74321 47163 1] 11. Lost It.com - Animal (Trance Mix) [Perfecto - PERF 013T] 12. ID - ID [068:20] 13. Alena - Turn It Around (Extended Mix) [Basic Beat Recordings - BASIC 268-5] 14. Philippe Van Mullem - The Secret Folder (Part 1) [Bonzai Trance Progressive - BTP-62-99] 15. Moogwai - Viola (Original Mix) [Platipus - PLAT 71] 16. iiO - Rapture (Creamer & Stephane K Remix) [United Recordings - UTD 024] 17. Radion6 - Shockwave (Original Mix) [Armind - ARMD 1243] 18. Wolfpack & Warp Brothers - Phatt Bass 2016 (Original Mix) [Smash The House - STH 081] 19. Paul Oakenfold Feat. Carla Werner - Southern Sun (ID Mix) [108:00] 20. Three Drives On A Vinyl - Greece 2000 (Original Mix) [Massive Drive Recordings - MD 003] 21. Der Dritte Raum - Hale Bopp (12" Mix) [Crucial Cuts Recordings - CRUCUT 12" 005] 22. 2nd Phase - Hysteria (Original Mix) [Damaged Records - DMGD 060] 23. Chakra - Home (Original Mix) [WEA - WEA 116 T] 24. Matt Darey Pres. Li Kwan - Point Zero 2004 (Matt Darey Mix) [Darey Productions LTD - DAREY 001] 25. Da Hool - Meet Her At The Love Parade (Hooligan's 2001 Club Remix) [Bonzai Records Italy - BRI 087] 26. PPK - ResuRection (Space Club Mix) [Perfecto - PERF 32T] 27. DuMonde - Tomorrow (DJ JamX & De Leon Remix) [Tasted - TASTED 10] 28. Space Manoeuvres - Stage One (Stu Mort 2015 Remix) [Lost Language - LOST 139] 29. Eric Prydz - Generate (Original Mix) [Pryda Recordings - PRY 031] 30. Paul Oakenfold & Cassandra Fox - Touch Me (Paul Oakenfold 'Stateside' Mix) [Perfecto - PRFCT 058] 31. Dotan - Home (Ti�sto Vs. twoloud Remix) [Universal Music Digital Services - 00602547321923]

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Would be cool if this track ended up with the same fate as that A-Force - Crystal Dawn track. Only played in a single set back in 2003, gets a massive thread, one label manager finds it, contacts the producer and they release it three years later.

His best track imo is A-tronic, also played in a 2003 set by J00f, never released. I contacted A-Force on Soundcloud, and he said he made the track 15 years ago and thanked me for the "nice reminder." After I responded asking whether it was possible to purchase, he never replied.

Can be heard here: link

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost Okay so I took a quick look into this and saw that his show in LA for this tour was actually on June 2nd, and not in May. And whatever, it was only a couple of days into a new month so I can see how you could confuse the two. But I scanned through that set inch by inch and at no point did I hear this record. http://www.global-sets.com/paul-oak...es-02-jun-2017/ Unless I managed to skip over it (it's three hours, after all), why do people feel the need to make shit up about stuff like this? EDIT: Full tracklisting. Three ID's, with the rest of the setlist filled with obvious classics that no one could ever mistake for the one in question (except maybe the opener):

Great work as my heart skipped a beat when I saw it !

Some of the tracks I bought were ok, some utter crap though it was funny but now i'm moving house and having to find somewhere to put all these records is just blowing my mind.

Some of these I mean, the sellers must have been crying with joy when I bought them.

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Originally posted by Paradox Lost Okay so I took a quick look into this and saw that his show in LA for this tour was actually on June 2nd, and not in May. And whatever, it was only a couple of days into a new month so I can see how you could confuse the two. But I scanned through that set inch by inch and at no point did I hear this record. http://www.global-sets.com/paul-oak...es-02-jun-2017/ Unless I managed to skip over it (it's three hours, after all), why do people feel the need to make shit up about stuff like this? EDIT: Full tracklisting. Three ID's, with the rest of the setlist filled with obvious classics that no one could ever mistake for the one in question (except maybe the opener):

sorry i didnt mean to make shit up. I was pretty hammered and ALOT of good tracks were played, I seem to remember hearing this but maybe I was mistaken.

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Originally posted by tetatdo sorry i didnt mean to make shit up. I was pretty hammered and ALOT of good tracks were played, I seem to remember hearing this but maybe I was mistaken.

Damn, I'll be out of town when he visits my city.

Plan to compose a list of psy trance white labels this year and buy them all. Maybe, just maybe...........

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Originally posted by the-sixth Plan to compose a list of psy trance white labels this year and buy them all. Maybe, just maybe...........

Put them out on mixlcloud or youtube. I can't wait to hear them!

If i dont say nonsense , this track has some similar style to that oakenfold rojam set id from minute 5:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_...qPFivmw#t=5m50s

After a long hiatus from TA I cam across this thread hoping there'd be a nice surprise at the end... alas, the hunt continues.

What a thread and commitment from the OP. To be fair, it's an excellent track and along with the desire to get to the bottom of the mystery I kind of understand the persistence.

My opinion is that this is a well polished production made by someone with good experience of producing as opposed to someone new trying to break through who passed on a limited acetate to Oakey only to then disappear into obscurity.

It's clearly bears little resemblance to the standard trance played in that era, and the vibe and the Maharashi sample would suggest it likely came from the psy scence. The guitar sample is so well polished too, it may have been sampled from another production. I'm listening trying to spot similarities with another producer's style but nothing obvious comes to mind.

Woah what do you think you�re doing man? You can�t just bump a thread like this unless you�re bumping with an ID. Otherwise you�re just playing with people�s emotions.

Well as you can see i narrowed it down to 10.

I have started a giant list of literally any white label that is classed as psy, goa, trance from 1994-00

I am only doing that because someone in here (DragonsEmerald) claimed to have it in his wantlist on cogs thus it must be in cogs. He would not give the name.

Grown men protecting names of other peoples tracks is quite sad

You are wasting your time and your money.

I recently bought that Stride Ahead CD. Let me know if you need samples of any track

Probably unrelated, but I also have this. It's not an experimental/abstract record. It's 99/00 trance. https://www.discogs.com/JeRik-Deep-Green/release/2513434

If you're unlucky, someone listed the track you're looking for under the wrong genre.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You are wasting your time and your money.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure the records themselves came cheap, but I don't want to even think about how much you've dropped into having them shipped. I know you said you still found some decent stuff amongst the misses, but that's a lot to spend for stuff that's just decent.

I know that all is fair in love & war & track ID's, but sometimes you just gotta abandon the search, or at least suspend it until they wash up on their own.

It's more the fact he's taking the bullshit proclamations of someone called "DragonsEmerald" as somehow reliable. In the best part of 20 years in this congealed mess we call a scene, the biggest constant I've seen is people bullshitting based on misunderstanding, misinformation or just plain speculation to make themselves appear knowledge or cool or somehow more exclusive than everyone else.

This track isn't on Discogs. It will never be found. The tracklists of the 1990s are stuffed with test presssings, demo versions and unreleased oddities that will never come to light. Why waste so much energy on this particular one?

How long has this hunt gone for?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's more the fact he's taking the bullshit proclamations of someone called "DragonsEmerald" as somehow reliable. In the best part of 20 years in this congealed mess we call a scene, the biggest constant I've seen is people bullshitting based on misunderstanding, misinformation or just plain speculation to make themselves appear knowledge or cool or somehow more exclusive than everyone else. This track isn't on Discogs. It will never be found. The tracklists of the 1990s are stuffed with test presssings, demo versions and unreleased oddities that will never come to light. Why waste so much energy on this particular one?

DragonsEmerald was a big user and buyer/seller of rare records back in the day on this very forum from my investigations. He had many rare items. time frame wise I *think* before discogs was even mainstream so based on that and that alone I do think he was being genuine. If i recall things like Marillion or Krystal he had for sale on here.

Correct me if I am wrong but when I did look into this heavily looking back that was my conclusion. If you knew him as a bullshitter on the forum from back in the day please do expand.

I do not subscribe to the attitude that things are impossible, and that goes for anything in life. It's only impossible when you do not at least try. If you try then at least your giving yourself a chance to do the impossible.

A lot of these records there are no clips of them, so I would rather take the chance to find a unknown track anyway, or one I missed back in the day as I have pretty much every other record that is known. So it's fun and I get that buzz back about buying vinyl. Stumbling upon THAT ID would be a happy accident but it's not the main focus of why I am buying records anymore.

Logically, the only way he could know the identity of the record is if someone he personally knew had it and played it to him to confirm it, but never told anyone else. Whether or not he bought a load of other Oakey rarities doesn't make that incredibly unlikely possibility more likely.

EDIT: Also, the fact that nothing more has been heard on the subject from the guy in 15+ years since he made the claim should cast doubt on his accuracy.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Logically, the only way he could know the identity of the record is if someone he personally knew had it and played it to him to confirm it, but never told anyone else. Whether or not he bought a load of other Oakey rarities doesn't make that incredibly unlikely possibility more likely. EDIT: Also, the fact that nothing more has been heard on the subject from the guy in 15+ years since he made the claim should cast doubt on his accuracy.

I mean it is a thin thread of hope I agree. I think he actually said his friend had it as a white label promo from Germany with a reaction sheet. Oakenfold himself confirmed it was a blank white label (again though how accurate would that be who knows).

So it is a very thin possibility I based the theory on but it has happily morphed into a discovery of some actually quite good tracks I would otherwise never have found.

As I say it's faded into the background as the main focus of buying up random tracks, I just have fun with getting stuff now I have no idea what to expect. The frequency has declined since Covid I rarely buy at all now.

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