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Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-15-2025 10:11:

All the blood pressure charts I've found online place those numbers squarely in the green, but I won't argue with a healthcare professional.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-15-2025 10:34:

Yeah, textbook numbers are just the starting point. The fluctuations from "normal" are highly dependent on many factors and are taken in context of a whole picture.

110s-teens are more typical systolic numbers for men of good health in their 30s. Certainly the ideal.

It's wild how unfit a good majority of people are, who should be in their prime.

Anyway, my previous post explains it.


Posted by JEO on Dec-15-2025 10:42:

I don't know if it's just a fixation of theirs to have the systolic at 120, but a GP recommended I start adding more salt in my food when she measured me at 105/65. I was 18 and weighed a lanky 55 kg, went for a ~10 km jog walk five times a week, hit a boxing bag a couple of times a week. I never started putting more salt in my food but I'm probably over 120 now.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-15-2025 11:16:

There's a rule of thumb that we treat the patient, not the numbers. Add more salt, lol.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-15-2025 12:05:

Amusingly, I use shitloads of salt when I cook. I've even thought to myself, "Man I hope this isn't doing anything to my blood pressure."

I'm not quite 55kg, but at 70kg / 155lbs I'm probably a fair bit lighter than the typical 37 year old man.


Posted by 72hrpartyanimal on Dec-15-2025 16:07:

You lucky bastards get to eat salt!!!


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-15-2025 16:36:

Salt, fat, flavour, fun. All things in moderation. Alcohol too. My liver said so. Lololol.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-15-2025 19:56:


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-15-2025 20:39:

Come on Nick. Put the rest of us in our place with your resting heartrate of 15 and VO2 max of a blue whale.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-15-2025 22:41:

It's off-season, so not quite that impressive at the moment, but when I was peaking this season my RHR was 36. VO2 Max 62. Marathon was 3:08, Ironman was right at 11 hours, and half-Ironman was 4:55. I hovered between 70-72 kgs.

It takes an insane amount of effort to stay that fit. I spent literally all my time this year either training, working, eating, or sleeping. I'm going to skip the full-distance triathlon next season and just do half-distance and Olympic, but I will go for another marathon in the hopes to break 3 hours.

Edit: on-topic, my BP was a bit high in January during my last physical at 132/79. Definitely didn't feel like it represented my fitness, and I'd have loved to have taken the test again in July when I was peaking.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-16-2025 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
VO2 max of a blue whale.

I was curious, so I did some research. Because of the absolutely massive oxygen throughput (like 900L per minute), an extremely low heart rate (2-10 bpm), and low metabolic rate per kg, a blue whale's VO2 max is like 5. Conversely, a field mouse has a VO2 max of 200.

So you unknowingly insulted me!


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-16-2025 19:55:

Yes, unknowingly, yes.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-16-2025 20:03:

YDKFA.


Posted by r5a on Dec-17-2025 15:48:

yeah since i posted this originally, ive been trying to make some lifestyle changes

i literally got my bloodwork back a few days ago, everything is pretty good, except for one liver stat but its only +1 over the normal range, so thank god for that

I've tried to start working out, doing a weekly thing with a buddy

a lot less booze and drugs, a lot less salt. losing weight.

comeback story sons

my bp is dropping, its now around 130/90 i think, still not out of the woods but I'm aiming for 120/90

@ jack - ah i see, makes sense.


@ jenny - enjoy banff, love it there, ive been getting the reels from the early dec snowfall they got out there and it looks unreal. make sure you do a dinner at the grizzly house, you have to. you'll understand why when you do it. its amazing.

I'm part of the NTSC so maybe we can link up at blue one of these weekends and go for a few runs. i ski too.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-17-2025 16:38:

Liver enzymes can be elevated for all kinds of reasons. If you had even one non clean (sugary, fatty/fried, etc) meal 24-48 hours before your sample was drawn, it could affect the results.

You don't have to go crazy to improve your cardiovascular health. Just keep moving. It's more important that you are able to commit to an activity with consistency. Walking is an excellent activity if you keep up a decent pace.



Grizzly house yeah, we're considering it! Gonna do Sunday brunch at The Vermilion Room at The Fairmont but haven't got anything else locked in.


Weekends at Blue, fuck that lol. Full of tourists and Jerrys. If you can swing a midweek sesh it's so much better. I'm down though.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-17-2025 20:00:

On the subject of walking/hiking, here's a question for the North Americans. How safe is it for you to hike while listening to music? In the UK we have no dangerous wildlife, so I can go hiking for 2-3 hours and just stick a DJ mix on the headphones. Is that possible in your national parks?

I always read stuff about bears, and I think I'd be on constant edge if I was hiking in the US or Canada with music blocking out the outside world. But I've no idea if bears are everywhere, if all bears are dangerous, if there's certain times of year to worry about them, etc.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-17-2025 20:25:

Around where I live, not really. Coyotes now live in my city park and they're not afraid of humans...it's concerning for people with smaller dogs as I've heard about coyotes going after them in broad daylight.


I'm actually more vigilant about humans lol. I turn the ANC off on my earbuds when I'm out for walks in certain areas because sketchiness is a bigger problem than ever. I say sketchiness because I don't want to demonize all homeless people/addicts/folks with mental illness. But shit's bad. :/


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-17-2025 21:37:

I'm talking about hiking in the great outdoors rather than just walking around a city. Unless the distinction between town and nature is more blurred in Canada.


Posted by ziptnf on Dec-17-2025 22:16:

The US is so absolutely massive that it's going to wildly (get it?) depend on where you're hiking. If you're hiking just outside city limits on the east coast, you're probably safe. If you're hiking in the boonies of TN, yellowstone, or somewhere desolate, you'd probably want to stay heads up.


Posted by JEO on Dec-17-2025 22:46:

It's not North America, but here when I'm in a bigger forest in general, be it berry picking or just hiking, the possibility of a bear encounter never really leaves my mind. While hiking, people quite often talk to each other incessantly, on the assumption that healthy bears usually steer well clear of humans they're aware of. I've never seen a bear in the wild, and realistically I'm quite sure I'll never have the privilege to unless it's through an artificial setup. Moose, on the other hand, are genuinely scary, chaotic, and just unpredictable. I've seen one a couple of times in the wild, and had many close encounters while driving. A moose on wet asphalt, trying not to hit your car, is fucking anticosmic.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-17-2025 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm talking about hiking in the great outdoors rather than just walking around a city. Unless the distinction between town and nature is more blurred in Canada.




Yes, I am speaking about proper hikes in provincial parks. I live near an insane amount of hiking trails, forests etc. The comment about my local park in the city was just an aside.

There are blackbears in the parks, but they generally avoid humans. I've been back country camping many times and it's never been an issue as long as food is stored properly etc.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-17-2025 23:46:

And actually, I don't even listen to music in deep nature simply because it really takes away from the experience. The whole point of going out in the woods/nature is to take it all in. Might be the only situation I prefer not to have music playing.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Dec-18-2025 00:49:

You can do whatever you want, Jenny. The synergy between music and natural landscape has given me some of the greatest highs of my life.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Dec-18-2025 00:55:

Nature IS music. Wind in the trees, running water, birdsongs, etc. There is rhythm in all of it. I like music on local walks through the park or around the lake, but not anywhere where the sound of traffic and other human noise is absent. I don't like to tune out of that.


Posted by Sykonee on Dec-18-2025 13:00:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
On the subject of walking/hiking, here's a question for the North Americans. How safe is it for you to hike while listening to music? In the UK we have no dangerous wildlife, so I can go hiking for 2-3 hours and just stick a DJ mix on the headphones. Is that possible in your national parks?

I always read stuff about bears, and I think I'd be on constant edge if I was hiking in the US or Canada with music blocking out the outside world. But I've no idea if bears are everywhere, if all bears are dangerous, if there's certain times of year to worry about them, etc.

Yeah, generally speaking, it's not a good idea to mute one of your primary senses when hiking outdoors here, especially if you're going it solo. Depending where you live, rugged wilderness can stretch hundreds of kilometres from one's backyard. Many of our national parks are just sequestered zones of uninhabited land, existing right up to suburban districts (ie: Vancouver's North Shore), with all the wildlife that comes with it. We're mere tenants within Canada's untamed natural splendor.

By and large, you're more likely to run across deer than most other larger animals. Coyotes are kinda' common in major cities, but you can come across wolves in more remote towns. Black bears are usually easily spooked away, provided they haven't just come out of hibernation or have cubs with them. Grizzlies... yeah, you're fucked if they decide to get up in your grill. There've also been occasions of some hikers reporting being stalked by cougars. And don't forget those elusive 'Squatch either!


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