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Posted by XxremedyxX on Dec-04-2002 16:59:

Re: Paul Van Dyk Sucks Hey

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
He is a disgrace to trance.

in all honesty this guy makes absolute shit. I haven't heard a good production from him since 'Words'. How has this weiner become so popular? He's underground trance's answer to Dj Sammy & Scooter.

Did you see that specialised cd of his for Latin America? what a commercial cheeze monger! Who does he think he is? Judge Jules or something? He is an absolute DISGRACE!

/end rant


You are a disgrace to TA. Leave! hahaha


Posted by zarathustra on Dec-04-2002 17:03:

*Turns on PvD@Cream Amnesia [15/08/02]*

Ahh, that's the stuff...


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Dec-04-2002 17:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
lol as if all of us little pee-ons (specifically bedrock) can sit here and say that PVD (or any other famous DJ), who makes about 40-50 g's a gig "SUCKS" and "is a disgrace to the trance scene"....who the F*** are you? when was your last album released?? exactly...so shut it. it's one thing to have an opinion, you are entitled to it, but why all the hate?? everyone just jumps on the bandwaggon when something is "too commercial". which is another thing that baffles me...all we complain about is how people don't appreciate trance/electronic music like we do and i see a lot of threads about trying to convert people to trance, etc...but as soon as something is on tv, it's a commercialized piece of crap...


hehe nicely put


Posted by Renegade on Dec-04-2002 17:07:

For god's sake guys, chill.

I think some of you are really missing the point here: you jump down bedrock's throat for pissing on your taste in music, and then you start going on about how shit and boring progressive is? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? If you have a problem with what bedrock says, then don't start flaming him, or making death threats, just tell him why you think he's wrong, in civil, rational terms. I think JayD and vmc have responded in the right way here, look to them as an example. That's how things should be done in this place, and less of the bandwagon "flame the guy who disagrees with us" mentality.

Besides, I think the problem here is not enough of you can see the humour in bedrock's post. I think it's pretty clear that bedrock doesn't particularly like PVD, but some of you need to bone up on your understandings of tongue-in-cheek humour. Bedrock was taking the piss, to use an Australian term, and you took him too seriously. Perhaps bedrock didn't make it clear that he enjoys being contentious, but then he shouldn't have to. If you don't understand the motivation behind a post, then perhaps it's best not to reply to it.

Personally, I think that if bedrock was banned for this, then this site needs to re-order its priorities. If he was banned for being unnecessarily racist, sexist or vulgar - or if he was spamming the forum every day and night - then I could understand it, but I think it's pretty average that he should be banned for calling PvD a weiner and rather bluntly criticizing his productions. People crap on DJ's all the time here - some more than others - but it's certainly no reason to ban them. Who'd be left on this site if we banned everyone who spoke their mind in the same way that bedrock just did?

So I'm with Philby then. To whoever did it, please unban the cynical bastard.


Posted by netw3rkd on Dec-04-2002 17:11:

Well said, Renegade.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Dec-04-2002 17:11:

hey bedrock, PLAIN AND SIMPLE FOR YOU:
this is TRANCEaddict. not prog addict

RESPECT the fact that some people like pvd. i respect that you like prog, although i personally hate it.


Posted by CATHAIN on Dec-04-2002 17:13:

Good call Renegade


Posted by amit on Dec-04-2002 17:16:

alright guys...this is bull shit

STOP MOCKING ON PROG!!! BEFORE I EXPLODE


Posted by TranceSeeker on Dec-04-2002 17:16:

k, for me Paul van Dyk also sux just like you and some others think about him, but keep in mind there are people who like him...
Keep in mind there are people who don't like your music...


Posted by netw3rkd on Dec-04-2002 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by amit
alright guys...this is bull shit

STOP MOCKING ON PROG!!! BEFORE I EXPLODE




Posted by PSi on Dec-04-2002 17:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
For god's sake guys, chill.

I think some of you are really missing the point here: you jump down bedrock's throat for pissing on your taste in music, and then you start going on about how shit and boring progressive is? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? If you have a problem with what bedrock says, then don't start flaming him, or making death threats, just tell him why you think he's wrong, in civil, rational terms. I think JayD and vmc have responded in the right way here, look to them as an example. That's how things should be done in this place, and less of the bandwagon "flame the guy who disagrees with us" mentality.

Besides, I think the problem here is not enough of you can see the humour in bedrock's post. I think it's pretty clear that bedrock doesn't particularly like PVD, but some of you need to bone up on your understandings of tongue-in-cheek humour. Bedrock was taking the piss, to use an Australian term, and you took him too seriously. Perhaps bedrock didn't make it clear that he enjoys being contentious, but then he shouldn't have to. If you don't understand the motivation behind a post, then perhaps it's best not to reply to it.

Personally, I think that if bedrock was banned for this, then this site needs to re-order its priorities. If he was banned for being unnecessarily racist, sexist or vulgar - or if he was spamming the forum every day and night - then I could understand it, but I think it's pretty average that he should be banned for calling PvD a weiner and rather bluntly criticizing his productions. People crap on DJ's all the time here - some more than others - but it's certainly no reason to ban them. Who'd be left on this site if we banned everyone who spoke their mind in the same way that bedrock just did?

So I'm with Philby then. To whoever did it, please unban the cynical bastard.


nicely put aussie.


Posted by Swamper on Dec-04-2002 17:36:

He's back.. He shouldn't have been banned.

And a lot of you have to learn how to express your opinions without sounding like absolute twats and insulting other people's musical tastes whenever you post.

I love pvd to death, who cares if someone else doesn't? Not me.

As long as you're not being totally insulting about it then it's fine.

Grow up.


Posted by Technaut on Dec-04-2002 17:42:

I aint falling for this one Bedrock

did u get bored cos the AUTA's rumbled you and didnt rrise to it anymore.


Posted by Pio on Dec-04-2002 17:58:

Re: Paul Van Dyk Sucks Hey

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock

Did you see that specialised cd of his for Latin America? what a commercial cheeze monger! Who does he think he is? Judge Jules or something? He is an absolute DISGRACE!

/end rant


Are you kidding? How can a soundtrack for an indie Mexican film be considered commercial??? It's not like he's doing a Hollywood soundtrack like Oakey has. You probably don't know shit about film, but Mexican cinema is going through a Reinassance right now and this movie will probably own. He's also doing a soundtrack for an Australian film I believe. NOT HOLLYWOOD.


Posted by m0sh on Dec-04-2002 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
He's back.. He shouldn't have been banned.

And a lot of you have to learn how to express your opinions without sounding like absolute twats and insulting other people's musical tastes whenever you post.

I love pvd to death, who cares if someone else doesn't? Not me.

As long as you're not being totally insulting about it then it's fine.

Grow up.


Like I think........

There is a lot of flaming around here.........shame /:


Posted by 531.am on Dec-04-2002 18:21:



oh man I'm going to take a nap....


Posted by 531.am on Dec-04-2002 18:22:

btw, I love that simpsons episode when the go to Australia: "OY!"


Posted by TwiloThunder on Dec-04-2002 18:23:

aww poor you Bedrock.

Me... well I'm seeing PVD live on Saturday so nerr


Posted by escee on Dec-04-2002 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
He's back.. He shouldn't have been banned.

And a lot of you have to learn how to express your opinions without sounding like absolute twats and insulting other people's musical tastes whenever you post.

I love pvd to death, who cares if someone else doesn't? Not me.

As long as you're not being totally insulting about it then it's fine.

Grow up.


respect.


Posted by Verona^My on Dec-04-2002 18:41:

Re: Paul Van Dyk Sucks Hey

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
He is a disgrace to trance.

in all honesty this guy makes absolute shit. I haven't heard a good production from him since 'Words'. How has this weiner become so popular? He's underground trance's answer to Dj Sammy & Scooter.
/end rant


ah STFU

DJ Sammy & Scooter play what they play, they've both been around a while, probably longer than you've been listening to trance... so pfft.

PVD has the honor of having made the only real trance album that's good and released in the US at the same time.


Posted by Matt on Dec-04-2002 19:11:

1. I've had enough with these prog elitists

2. I haven't PvD live yet (hope he comes to Toronto soon), so I can't judge his live show (but I hear they are the SHIT!). But, I can judge his productions. I think they are boring and repetitive, at least his newer stuff. I still like Tell Me Why and For An Angel after all these years, but all these reworks and stuff have sucked and made me go to sleep


Posted by Airscape2 on Dec-04-2002 19:13:

Have You HEARD the track called Autumn..u sucker !!!!!!! If not go listen to it and post an apology to Paul


Posted by Airscape2 on Dec-04-2002 19:23:

quote:
Originally posted by zarathustra
*Turns on PvD@Cream Amnesia [15/08/02]*

Ahh, that's the stuff...


try PVD live@Vancouver part 1..lovely !!!!!


Posted by Teknikol on Dec-04-2002 19:26:

PvD isn't a very special producer to me. I'm not saying he sucks. He tunes are too weak most of the time. I like a few tracks of him but the most tracks are shit. So GOD is the wrong word for this medium skilled producer.


Posted by tu_face on Dec-04-2002 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
...a lot of you have to learn how to express your opinions without sounding like absolute twats and insulting other people's musical tastes whenever you post.



werd..

theres too much flaming in this place now, there has been for a while.

u ppl forget that trance is much wider than just uplifting or just progressive (or just anything else) so when people have a different taste in music its a bit like someone who doesnt like meat... dont understand why but hey... each to his/her own


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