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Posted by weezhard on Jan-16-2003 15:08:

I dont mean arrogant in that they dont talk to you. That would not worry me. I mean arrogant in that they feel they are gods gift to Crasher/clubbing.
Example:
Went Boxing Day. took a mate for his first GC experience. He was told to "get off the railings, newb" This is from someone that is a reg in the club and on the GC msg bd.

There are a lot of ppl that i first me in GC: Jeff, Nita, You, Dan etc. there are a lot i only ever meet in the GC (or GC events) cos I have never seen them elsewhere, Gods, Passion, Slinky. So, if i stop going, or GC stops existing, it will be a sad day. But, bottom line, my previously 'undying' love of all things GC is now somewhat waining because
1. GC dont listen to clubbers. period. never have, never will.
2. We are back to 3 yrs ago when the 'elite' cyber regs thought they owned the place. This is not a dig at cybers, i always go cyber at GC. But things got so bad that, believe it or not, cyber was banned from GC for nearly a year !! Things are almost as bad now as they were then, and they are getting worse since it went monthly.
3. The line-ups announced for the first 3 this year are poor, piss poor. Last Jan's resident/album launch mights were better. I can honestly say they are the worse line-ups since Seb was booked and miraculously GC's basement was flooded ;-)

Not so much my 2 cents but my dime's worth.

Peace


Posted by Ian on Jan-16-2003 15:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer
yeh and i fly to coalville by concorde...


I'd suggest landing in my back garden, but the greenhouse is a bit broken already `


Posted by weezhard on Jan-16-2003 15:15:

[/QUOTE]which maybe u lot see it as, thats why u dont understand, u think we jsut follow the brand name or whatever the fuck, then maybe that makes u arrogant, blabbing on about how sad we are etc when u dont even knwo the fuckin score.
[/QUOTE]

I missed this first time of reading...

FYI - i have been to GC for three years. This is not a big I-AM statement, just to notify you that i am not a Gods, Cream, Slinky, Passion etc regular. That is, if i could associate myself with any club, it would be Crasher.

However, I am in the position of being able to compare many different clubs throughout the UK. One of the best nights I ever had was at Promise. Unfotunately it is a 700 mile round trip for me and my missus to make. Hardly able to do that on a reg basis. Of all the clubs I have been to, GC had the best atmosphere on its best nights. But, I have also had some bad nights there too. All in, Gods, for me, provides the best atmosphere, week-in, week-out.


Posted by Ste on Jan-16-2003 15:43:

quote:
Originally posted by weezhard
which maybe u lot see it as, thats why u dont understand, u think we jsut follow the brand name or whatever the fuck, then maybe that makes u arrogant, blabbing on about how sad we are etc when u dont even knwo the fuckin score.
[/QUOTE]

I missed this first time of reading...

FYI - i have been to GC for three years. This is not a big I-AM statement, just to notify you that i am not a Gods, Cream, Slinky, Passion etc regular. That is, if i could associate myself with any club, it would be Crasher.

However, I am in the position of being able to compare many different clubs throughout the UK. One of the best nights I ever had was at Promise. Unfotunately it is a 700 mile round trip for me and my missus to make. Hardly able to do that on a reg basis. Of all the clubs I have been to, GC had the best atmosphere on its best nights. But, I have also had some bad nights there too. All in, Gods, for me, provides the best atmosphere, week-in, week-out. [/QUOTE]


im not saying it is a big i-am statement, you and coup and everyone else have diiferent views to gatecrahser because to you guys maybe its another great club, but to me and a few others its sumthing different, but neither of you seen to understand, i didnt seem to understand it until i posted a few more times, continually saying were sad etc. etc.


Posted by weezhard on Jan-16-2003 16:04:

Ste.

At no time have i said you follow a brand name. Indeed, you assumed I was one of those that slagged off the club having only been there once or twice, if at all. How wrong you are. You assumed I am the one speaking without experience, when in fact, you are speaking without either knowledge of my background or, experience of clubs you call "Wanky".

Look - i have been to Crasher many, many times. More than you could conceive. I think it used to be the best club in the UK. You are still in your honeymoon period.

Don't malign other clubs when, by your own admission, you haven't even been there (Passion). If you can't talk first hand, then dont talk.


Posted by Ste on Jan-16-2003 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by weezhard
Ste.

At no time have i said you follow a brand name. Indeed, you assumed I was one of those that slagged off the club having only been there once or twice, if at all. How wrong you are. You assumed I am the one speaking without experience, when in fact, you are speaking without either knowledge of my background or, experience of clubs you call "Wanky".

Look - i have been to Crasher many, many times. More than you could conceive. I think it used to be the best club in the UK. You are still in your honeymoon period.

Don't malign other clubs when, by your own admission, you haven't even been there (Passion). If you can't talk first hand, then dont talk.



what the fuck, you still avnt read what i said, coup said we were sad for having affectipns for our club for reason you seem to ignore, then you agreed. i havnt been to passion, so what, shall i dump my favourite place in the world jsut coz some other club has a better lineup on? how about, no!

i have been to many other clubs, some good, some shit, but the matter of the fact is gatecrasher is different to all these for a more special reaosn than jsut good lineups. yet you continue to ignore this point and blab on about honeymoon periods and shit like that, and about me not going to passion, what baring does that have on why gatecrasher is special for me?

if your gonna reply again at least read and understand my post rather than going off on a tangent trying to make me look like "a kid" coz it wont work.


Posted by Kinuvan on Jan-16-2003 17:18:

I'm totally with Ste.

a few points:

Crasher is not just about music, I go to other clubs and the emphasis on having a good night lies primarily with the DJs, in crasher this is not so prominant due to the numerous friends that I have made there.

Gatecrasher is on once a month, I do not see why we should sacrifice a night that's bound to be good, even if it is Tiesto, to go to a club we can go to every other week of the year.

There is no doubt me and Ste have a sort of allegiance to Crasher, that does not mean we automatically hate other clubs or do not want to give them a try.

Passion may well have a better atmosphere, but no way is it going to replace Gatecrasher in the top spot for a whole myriad of reasons.

Gatecrasher is a multifaceted experience, not a club.


Posted by Volksjoolz on Jan-16-2003 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinuvan
I'm totally with Ste.

a few points:

Crasher is not just about music, I go to other clubs and the emphasis on having a good night lies primarily with the DJs, in crasher this is not so prominant due to the numerous friends that I have made there.

Gatecrasher is on once a month, I do not see why we should sacrifice a night that's bound to be good, even if it is Tiesto, to go to a club we can go to every other week of the year.

There is no doubt me and Ste have a sort of allegiance to Crasher, that does not mean we automatically hate other clubs or do not want to give them a try.

Passion may well have a better atmosphere, but no way is it going to replace Gatecrasher in the top spot for a whole myriad of reasons.

Gatecrasher is a multifaceted experience, not a club.


soo many BIG words there toby!! i told you not to keep swallowing that oxford dictionary!

anway my 2p's worth is,

i can see both sides of the coin!

ooh i'm sorry *retreats out of cyberspace*


Posted by decode on Jan-16-2003 18:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
This is the point im trying to get across. you all think clubbing starts and ends at gatecrasher and it shouldnt. This happened in feb last year aswel, the option was either goto trance energy holland and witness half the world DJ, and have a mint time in holland, amsterdam, meet the dutch ta's, or goto 3 or so nites at crasher, on the same train there and back, going to the same club. 3 from this board went to holland.

Gatrcrasher is mint, ive been and im going on the 25th, but i find it really hard for u to agree that you will goto a lesser line up, for more money, just because its gatecrasher, esp when you havent even been to the alternative.

JFK maybe a big fat nobber but when he plays inside passoin (which he is very deeply involved running) he plays awsome, just banging trance tunes one after another after another.

Tiesto + Matt Hardwick vs. Rank 1 + Cosmic Gate + Ferry Corsten + Guy Ornadel. speaks for itself.


We dont think clubbing starts and ends at crasher, i wanna go to as many diff places as i can. The point is, is that crasher is where it began for me and for fraz, ok i dont wanna sound like a old hardcore crasher verteran cos im not, we have only been going for 11 months buts thats besides the point. This place is really important to us and there is something about it that makes it really special. I will go to passion but not if it falls on a crasher date weather some of u think its sad is your opinion but thats what we want to do.

I remember u telling me mark that they was a few arrogant wankers there at crasher, and a few of the cybers were been tossers at B&W, but i have faith that it wont be like this or get any worse, new people will go and get into it. A mate of mine who i am taking him for his first crasher experience on the 25th is already planning on buying cyber gear, more people will get into it if they want. It cant go down the pan things only only just beginning


Posted by DJ Mikey Mike on Jan-16-2003 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by ferrycorstenfan
Yeah but Newcastle is a bitch to get to from down here


hav u seen the bitch of a journey ste has to do to get to Code?


Posted by Coup on Jan-16-2003 20:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinuvan
Passion may well have a better atmosphere, but no way is it going to replace Gatecrasher in the top spot for a whole myriad of reasons.

No offense toby but its comments like that which are getting the passion backs up, mainly because dispite HOW GOOD crasher is, you have never been to passion so therefore, even if u went u 'could' even enjoy it more.

I dunno how to word my argument for this, i understand that crasher means alot to the people defending it so which is why they wont leave it, but to judge another club reguardless what u are judging it against when you havent been is wrong.


Posted by decode on Jan-16-2003 20:15:

Im not judging, I wanna try passion from what i heard its totally fucking awesome, Just i love crasher and thats that

But i will go to passion. I wanna go to this place more than godskitchen, hopefully some new work in pipeline so this means more clubbing =)


Posted by Ste on Jan-16-2003 20:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
No offense toby but its comments like that which are getting the passion backs up, mainly because dispite HOW GOOD crasher is, you have never been to passion so therefore, even if u went u 'could' even enjoy it more. .


and that why were getting our backs up, coz u are ignoring what we say and blab on about summat else

its not a matter of HOW GOOD crasher is, its the best for different reasons, not jsut because its a great club with great DJs like passion, promise or gods


Posted by weezhard on Jan-17-2003 16:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinuvan
I'm totally with Ste.

a few points:

Crasher is not just about music, I go to other clubs and the emphasis on having a good night lies primarily with the DJs, in crasher this is not so prominant due to the numerous friends that I have made there.

Gatecrasher is on once a month, I do not see why we should sacrifice a night that's bound to be good, even if it is Tiesto, to go to a club we can go to every other week of the year.

There is no doubt me and Ste have a sort of allegiance to Crasher, that does not mean we automatically hate other clubs or do not want to give them a try.

Passion may well have a better atmosphere, but no way is it going to replace Gatecrasher in the top spot for a whole myriad of reasons.

Gatecrasher is a multifaceted experience, not a club.


A good repsonse Toby.
Sorry but going clubbing is about the music. Would you and all your mates go to a garage night? Or a night down the local Ritzy? That said, GC does (on an typical night) have a much better atmosphere to any other club I have been to on it's 'typical' night. And yes, GC is only on once a month and chosing not to go is, for me, a big decision. GC has it's own unique style. The only places that come close are Passion or Gods. That said, I find it hard to comprehend how you could turn down a line up of Tiesto, Matt and Eddie at GC for Rank 1 at Passion, let alone Ferry. Having seen Rank 1 they alone would make it a tuff decision. Personally, for me, I would choose Rank 1 - but thats my choice, even if it means missing one of about 10 GC events at Republic.

One Q' - did you see Sasha and Digweed at GCSSS 2002? As much as my allegiance (and, yes, I do have one for GC - it changed my life, it re-united me with my GF, gave us something special to do together) is for GC itself, that set alone will always be with me for the rest of my life. It was truly inspiring. Not like anything I had experienced before - 5hrs of music that I could totally become immersed in. It was one of a few times that i have been on a journey whilst clubbing. There were some great DJ's in the GC arena but, to broaden my horizons, I decided to listen to Sasha and Digweed in the Bedrock arena. For the same reason, I would like to see Cosmic Gate at Passion. Yet, it seems that, because I no-longer have my un-dying, un-qeustinable, dare I say it, FANATICAL following for all things Simon Raine, I am some sort of hedonist!

Finally, i must agree totally, GC is a multi-faceted experience but for ppl(Ste, not you) to say
quote:
thats why it pisses on any other wanky club

just illustrates how, despite going to what about 5 'super-clubs' Ste?, how close minded some GC regs are. As for me trying to make Ste out to be a 'kid', i think you do that own your own, very succesfully, without any outside help.


Posted by Kinuvan on Jan-17-2003 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by weezhard
A good repsonse Toby.
Sorry but going clubbing is about the music.


Of course it is but like I said, I don't rely on it as much at gatecrasher. I was not trying to say that I don't go to Gatecrasher for the music at all, of course I do, of course it is an important part but it is but one thing of the multifaceted experience I was talking about.

quote:
Passion may well have a better atmosphere, but no way is it going to replace Gatecrasher in the top spot for a whole myriad of reasons.


should read Passion may well have a better atmosphere, but no way is it going to replace Gatecrasher in the top spot in my mind for a whole myriad of reasons.

I understand a lot of people don't see where me and Ste are coming from on this, but if you saw Gatecrasher through our eyes for jsut one night, believe me, you'd think the same.


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