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Posted by SanduTje on Feb-10-2003 19:02:

*SanduTje changes topic to [OMFG!]Song For The Ocean[/STOLEN]


Posted by Blue. on Feb-10-2003 20:45:

quote:
Originally posted by stama
I think the whole PVD 'rework' idea is lame, a cop out.



I think it's a cool idea. You hear a track that you love and you think hmm maybe it would be better without the extra bassline or something. That's all he does, he doesn't claim a track as his own or anything he just says I think this song would be cooler if I added my own touch, he does it to play in his sets and stuff and I think it's cool.


Posted by Matt on Feb-10-2003 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveC

get real!!

I have to agree, i think its a poor track and im one of armins biggest fans


oh come off it.

to each his own!!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Feb-10-2003 21:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox

if there is someone innovative in the industrie is pvd...


You're so cute trying to sound convincing...


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Feb-10-2003 22:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox
hello,

if there is someone innovative in the industrie is pvd...

I think when he began with his reworking concept back in 2001, that was very smart of him if you would ask me. I also think TPOD was very revolutionary for the Mix-CDs concept as what Paul did, was not seen before

there is an interesting interview about Global you all should read...

...and yes, finally someone agrees with me that some armin`s production are very alike to Paul`s.

xxx
f0x



or maybe cuz ur the biggest PVD assrider?

PVD the biggest innovative producer in the industry? ROFLMAO

care to explain how PVD's recent works are somehwat innovative for example how innovative PVD's rework of wavy gravy is when all he does is add his trademark baseline and beat?


Posted by barryfigiel on Feb-10-2003 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
Armin's new track, played on his EM yesterday


Armin also played it on ASOT last Thursday.

lateRZ,

barryfigiel


Posted by netw3rkd on Feb-10-2003 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by barryfigiel
Armin also played it on ASOT last Thursday.

lateRZ,

barryfigiel



Hah yea. His EM was, as Rakoon said, basically his last 6 ASOT's merged into one.


Posted by DJ_Skaya on Feb-10-2003 23:13:

quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
or maybe cuz ur the biggest PVD assrider?

PVD the biggest innovative producer in the industry? ROFLMAO

care to explain how PVD's recent works are somehwat innovative for example how innovative PVD's rework of wavy gravy is when all he does is add his trademark baseline and beat?


The onl assriders in this thread are you and Mr. Mystery using an Armin thread to Bash PvD. Back to the topic please...


Posted by stama on Feb-10-2003 23:21:

quote:
Originally posted by trance_n_dance
I think it's a cool idea. You hear a track that you love and you think hmm maybe it would be better without the extra bassline or something. That's all he does, he doesn't claim a track as his own or anything he just says I think this song would be cooler if I added my own touch, he does it to play in his sets and stuff and I think it's cool.


i think its a cop out because it does make the tracks sound the same and it makes them a hell of a lot easier to mix.


Posted by TuanAnh213 on Feb-10-2003 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Skaya
The onl assriders in this thread are you and Mr. Mystery using an Armin thread to Bash PvD. Back to the topic please...



HOW ARE WE BASHING PVD?

just cuz we DONT agree that PVD's the most innovative *snicker* producer in the industry means we're bashing PVD? since when did opposite opinions ever became bashing? its not like im calling PVD a shithead producer or a wankster cuz that's bashing... i'm just stating my own OPINION that i don't think PVD's RECENT productions are not very innovative and good at all. get back the the topic? since when did PVD ever become the fucking topic? can you please remind me what the topic of this thread was? i don't see you telling ur fellow PVD assriders to get back the the topic


oh...my OPINION is that song for the ocean is an average production. i still think AVB could've spent more time into and and done better...hopefully some good mixes come out...oh fuck...i think i just bashed armin cuz i think song for the ocean is average


Posted by INFERNO2K on Feb-10-2003 23:53:

7/10

It needs a ronski speed mix or mirco de govia mix :


Posted by i <3 prog on Feb-10-2003 23:57:

song for the ocean...

how innovative.


Posted by Nell on Feb-11-2003 04:14:

Re: Re: Song For The Ocean Sucks.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
Your a fucking idiot, if you say Armin used the same beat as Dust Wave which is true but how is this stealing or bad, Armin is those few Djs that ever uses the same beat


err my point is that he has made fuck all effor tin producing it, hes being lazy, and there is no sophistication (sp?) to the track compared to yet another day which had layers upon layers of different sounds making a nice full track. its a very basic tune and it sounds like a bit of a "cut and paste job" to me. he's already released sunburn which is the dust.wav intro looped over and over (i know it it was originally meant to be a remix of dust.wav) but that totals 3 tracks now!! and the stupid thing is they are under different guises. wtf's the point of having perpetuous dreamer and armin if the productions sound the same. compare moonman to system f and youve got a difference. go pick up tiesto's album, yes its old but EVERY track is unique and EVERY track has either been released or remixed with the one exception of dallas 4pm. not many artists can do that, and armin is obviously one of those that cant.

quote:
Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis
and if you want to talk about PVD then you show me one song that didn't use the same sample beat he always uses..

and what do you mean he stole from PVD, PVD has stolen production ideas and created it to his standards and called it his rework *cough KLEA - Tic Toc *cough


and when did i ever rave about PVD?! never!!! your fighting the wrong arguement you dipshit, this topic is about armin not pvd, but when i first heard song for the ocean being mixed in, i thought it was a pvd track, THATS ALL. moron, argue against a point i made, not one you invented.

As i said before, maybe remixes will do this justice. i bloody hope so!


Posted by UWM on Feb-11-2003 04:18:

Not very impressed.

Lose the chant. Lose the bassline. Lose the Dust.wav synths.

Where is the creativity anymore?


Posted by SuperFarStucker on Feb-11-2003 04:43:

havent heard this track but.. based on the *opinions* in this thread i have come to the decisive conclusion that it is probably a song?!?


Posted by vmc on Feb-16-2003 18:03:

This isn't a bad song at all, especially the breakdown is pretty interesting.

And if you guys want to bash PVD, make other thread about it cause this one is about latest Armin's song ffs !!!


Posted by T_2199 on Feb-16-2003 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
or maybe cuz ur the biggest PVD assrider?

PVD the biggest innovative producer in the industry? ROFLMAO

care to explain how PVD's recent works are somehwat innovative for example how innovative PVD's rework of wavy gravy is when all he does is add his trademark baseline and beat?


Yeah PvD is innovating ....

only because his latest tracks have the same bass line doesn�t mean he isn�t innovating.. Paul is MAYBE (I don�t know how old you are...) longer in the electronic scence active than you live..


Posted by discojoe on Feb-16-2003 20:42:

Paul's new productions are boring and FAR from innovative. I didnt think so many people agreed with me though. This Armin song is decent. I wont give it much replay but it certainly is far from terrible. Armin is an incredible producer though. He's much more dynamic than most. At least his sound is evolving. Its not the same as it was two or three years ago. But people come on try to be realistic here, he's not going to have a smash hit with every record he releases. Not even the greatest artists like the beatles, bob dylan or hendrix did.


Posted by discojoe on Feb-16-2003 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by T_2199
Yeah PvD is innovating ....

only because his latest tracks have the same bass line doesn�t mean he isn�t innovating.. Paul is MAYBE (I don�t know how old you are...) longer in the electronic scence active than you live..


and he still uses the same sound samples as when he started


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