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Posted by Qtip_00 on Mar-08-2003 04:48:

yo you guys want tips of how to pick up chicks

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lots of good tips


Posted by Rememberence_ on Mar-08-2003 05:50:

Vesa, CynepMeH, great posts! A lot of that stuff is common sense, but needs constant reinforcement for someone like me. Plus, it was all written really really well guys, nice one. I might read a couple more times..


Posted by TranceEuphoria on Mar-08-2003 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Vesa
Many good advice above. Dunno if there's much to add, but let's try.

However, I must forewarn that I try to chat up women only at nightclubs because I need to get them to bed really fast. Otherwise they have time to notice that I'm a moron, and don't want anything to do with me So in your situation I wouldn't have even considered talking to her 'cause it's too small odds of success compared to the stigma one gets (breaking the rule of not talking to strangers at broad daylight)



When you arrive and sit down at the table, immediately say in a moderately loud, completely neutral, manly, very mildly dominant, all business voice:

"Hi!" or "Hi! How are we doing here?"

You may now ask: what if she doesn't realize that you're talking to her. Not likely. Women have excellent peripheral vision so she has probably seen you approach just an eyeblink earlier.

1) No response -> She's not interested, forget it.

2) A one or two word response with a bored voice -> ditto
("Reading!" and "Fuck Off!" are typical responses in this category )

3) A short response with a normal voice -> Proceed with another question to test her level of interest: "What are you reading?"

If she warms up, and gives a longer response -> Proceed to 4.
If normal voice and short answer -> Say just "Oh!" You may have too bad odds of success, so ignore her completely and start talking to your mates. In the small chance that she WAS interested but not talkative, ignoring her makes her think she screwed it, and she'll throw herself at you at the next school party.

4) An enthusiastic girly voice, and submissive body language like warm eye contact, smiling, exposing breasts, or coy look with a half-smile and lowered chin ->

Drop your mates and start talking to her with an enthusiastic moderately manly voice. Keep neutral face. Use body language like you were her computer instructor or something Talk about the upcoming school/university disco. Very casual topics. Thinking you are an instructor is meant to help you lose yourself in conversation and appear confident. But don't be a know-all, only on the same (high ) level as she, or occasionally one level up.

If the vibes are great, during the conversation, make up an excuse in how you can help her with the disco, or simply after talking 5 minutes, say that it was funny talking. Tell her that next week you are going to the local trendy coffee shop to celebrate the end of your exam term (or whatever she can relate to). Take out your mobile, and say to her "Why don't you join me for it! Gimme your number, so I'll call you and we'll agree the time!" When you have the number, say "OK! I'll call you" and start talking to your mates, and ignore her. Possibly say "Laterz" when you leave, but not necessary.

PS. I know that all guys know most of these lines without me telling. I posted them just for the sake of completeness.


Hey Vesa mate!! Your advice works great I read it yesterday and tested it today, WITH SUCCES!!
thx a lot, man!
Greetz,
TranceEuphoria


Posted by DaveSZ on Mar-09-2003 13:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Rememberence_
werd @ this thread. Why is it made so hard! It's all the fault of the chicks I'm actually sitting next to this chick right now... fuck she's hot and she smells fantastic. It's pretty funny I'm typing all this about her and she hasn't a clue... it's also saddening that she doesn't know.

argh.


LOLz. Hey if you are really from San Antone are you going to Acosta this next weekend??? Your flag is Australian it looks like.


Posted by DaveSZ on Mar-09-2003 13:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Muff2K
i have a problem with people saying that a girl is their type just by looking at her. i dont know if a girl is my type until i talk to her, take her out, see her at home with family, undress her.

man, there's been so many hot looking girls out there, and when you get teh balls to go up and talk to em, they sound like Grover from sesame street or smell like ass.


HAHahaha. Yeah I know man. When I was in highschool, there was this blonde cheerleader chick that was SO hot and she seemed to like me...
But she was so stupid......goddamn she was stupid....
There are so many FAKE people out there ughghhh! She kept talking about her hair and things like that when we were supposed to be discussing a book. She was a model in Seventeen Magazine BTW, but I don't know what issue or anything. I'm sure she will end up in some kind of Anna Nicole Smith situation.
Anyways I just didn't pay too much attention. Was that being mean??
I felt kinda bad.


Posted by Eugene on Mar-09-2003 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by DaveSaenz
HAHahaha. Yeah I know man. When I was in highschool, there was this blonde cheerleader chick that was SO hot and she seemed to like me...
But she was so stupid......goddamn she was stupid....
There are so many FAKE people out there ughghhh! She kept talking about her hair and things like that when we were supposed to be discussing a book. She was a model in Seventeen Magazine BTW, but I don't know what issue or anything. I'm sure she will end up in some kind of Anna Nicole Smith situation.
Anyways I just didn't pay too much attention. Was that being mean??
I felt kinda bad.

LOL.
But a lot of girls like to talk about their hair


Posted by TranceGiant on Mar-09-2003 20:59:

Dunno

Hm I donno about being super-honest and open while chatting up. I, for example, once approached a girl I'd fancied for months (always saw her at this club and somehow suddenly had the guts to grab her arm and pull her aside) and anyway...I was saying what I was thinking and feeling and I'm not sure this was the cleverest idea: I told her how gorgeous she looks and how I hadnt been able to get her outta my mind for such a long time... bla bla... then she gives me a smile and says "yeah, but I got a bf, sorry..."
KABOOMM!!
I'm not saying my honesty screwed it up (she actually HAD a bf i saw afterwards ) but it wasn't really worth it either, it just made me more vulnerable. Pouring all your feelings out and getting a quick "sorry" respond is not nice at all. I could have gotten the same "results" with a less honest "Hi, I find you cute and would like to get to know you, would you like to go out and have a drink with me?" line.

Speaking of which I just found out that I need more praxis in the much more sophisticated "techno club dancefloor" approach. There was this girl dancing next to me and I recognized her cause Ive seen her at another, much more mainstream disco before. I scream into her ear "havent i seen you and your friend in club xyz before?" "yeah" "so..changed sides? " "yeah better atmosphere here"-> continues to dance. That's where I got insecure and she left with her friend. Argh! So, that's where persistence and clever ideas to small talk next to wild techno beats are probably the most vital aspects


Posted by arjoderoon on Mar-09-2003 21:17:

ah just ask: hey shall we go to my place eat pizza, and have sex? or don't you like pizza?


Posted by Eugene on Mar-09-2003 21:29:

Worm Popper

My question is, should you forget about the girls who don't give you a lot of eye contact/enthusiasm, and only go for those who openly send you signals?

Last nite I went to a club and there was one girl I'd seen before, somewhat cute. I casually walked up to her and her friends -- after having a shot of vodka, a glass of wine, and a beer - and introduced myself. We smiled and shook hands. Then I met her several times on the other floors of the club, tried having a "light" -- very light -- conversation but she would respond, smile, and then go somewhere else...

I think this describes 95% of what happens when you try to meet a girl! So is she not interested, and should you only chase the girls who send you signals? (eye contact, flirting..) ???

In other words, if you don't see clear signs of interest, should you forget it and move on? And do "clear signs of interest" even appear that often, even if you meet new girls every week?.. I think this is pretty rare and doesn't happen too often...


Posted by Eugene on Mar-09-2003 23:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Vesa
Girls often tell by body language that they are not interested. Like arms in a crossed position or a worried facial expression.

Yep, I can confirm those exact two examples you mentioned first-hand, from personal experience!

Thanks for the post Vesa, always interesting to read your thoughts.


Posted by Spad on Mar-10-2003 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
My question is, should you forget about the girls who don't give you a lot of eye contact/enthusiasm, and only go for those who openly send you signals?

Last nite I went to a club and there was one girl I'd seen before, somewhat cute. I casually walked up to her and her friends -- after having a shot of vodka, a glass of wine, and a beer - and introduced myself. We smiled and shook hands. Then I met her several times on the other floors of the club, tried having a "light" -- very light -- conversation but she would respond, smile, and then go somewhere else...

I think this describes 95% of what happens when you try to meet a girl! So is she not interested, and should you only chase the girls who send you signals? (eye contact, flirting..) ???

In other words, if you don't see clear signs of interest, should you forget it and move on? And do "clear signs of interest" even appear that often, even if you meet new girls every week?.. I think this is pretty rare and doesn't happen too often...


There's no secret code all girls are taught at school, different girls will respond differently in the same situations.

Best approach...go and introduce yourself. Make it clear that you're interested, without sounding desperate. Asking her for a light, or the time, or if she went to the same school as you is lame. Make it clear you're interested, don't just stand there smiling or you'll end up in the "is she not interested or does she just not realise that I'm interested or is she interested but too shy so should I go talk to her first but then she might not be interested but what if she is and she wants me to come over......etc etc.... 5 hours later you go home alone and fall asleep in a drunken stuper mid-wank" situation.

Talk to her; is she having a good night, is she at college, what's she studying etc. If she's interested, carry on. If she's not, fuck off and leave her alone.

There's no secret to getting a girl to like you. She either does or she doesn't, don't bother trying to be something you're not. Ignore all the "make sure you lean on your right foot, left eye-brow slightly raised and right shoulder at 40 degrees to the floor. Talk in a tone no higher than 40 decibels and do not extend your tounge more than 1cm outside your mouth. Never, ever, touch your face. if you sneeze, it's over so run away. If her left big toe is more than 1 metre from her right shin then she's not interested but if her left eye dialates by .5mm and she blinks between 5-11 times every 30 seconds then you're in there!" shit.


Posted by trancEyes22 on Mar-10-2003 01:49:

i personally like it when a guy just comes up to me, with a lot of confidence, and just starts chatting about virutally anything. i like it when they talk to me for a little to see if there's any initial chemistry there, rather than just asking for mu number from the getgo. it's definitely sexy tho when a guy has the balls to come up to me. i like that


Posted by Orbax on Mar-10-2003 01:55:

i dont know about some of this stuff. My sister is a model, and she acts like a total dork when she likes a guy. Like some guy asked her out to a club, and she asks where it is first, and when he says where she says "KIRKLAND? i HATE Kirkland!"...even though she totally wanted to go. women get just as stupid as guys when they like you so i wouldnt take them being weird as a bad thing...gotta be persistent, and if they dont like it, imagine dying alone and as a virgin. I think you place that above a couple minutes of them being forced to spend time with you


Posted by Spad on Mar-10-2003 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
i personally like it when a guy just comes up to me, with a lot of confidence, and just starts chatting about virutally anything. i like it when they talk to me for a little to see if there's any initial chemistry there, rather than just asking for mu number from the getgo. it's definitely sexy tho when a guy has the balls to come up to me. i like that


I rest my case m'lord.


Posted by trancEyes22 on Mar-10-2003 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
i dont know about some of this stuff. My sister is a model, and she acts like a total dork when she likes a guy. Like some guy asked her out to a club, and she asks where it is first, and when he says where she says "KIRKLAND? i HATE Kirkland!"...even though she totally wanted to go. women get just as stupid as guys when they like you so i wouldnt take them being weird as a bad thing...gotta be persistent, and if they dont like it, imagine dying alone and as a virgin. I think you place that above a couple minutes of them being forced to spend time with you



yeah def....boys, sometimes girls are just as nervous are you are when they approach them. so just take a deep breath and (in attempt to not sound corny) be yourself


Posted by Eugene on Mar-10-2003 02:15:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
i personally like it when a guy just comes up to me, with a lot of confidence, and just starts chatting about virutally anything... i like that

Erin, how about, when a girl comes up to you?
what does she have to do lol


Posted by trancEyes22 on Mar-10-2003 02:42:

lick me...lol


Posted by Magimaster on Mar-10-2003 02:55:

http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/default.htm


It's working for me so far. There's this chick I've been going after since the beginning of the semester...she's starting to warm up.

confidence is key. That's basically repeated by every experienced guy you ask, every internet discussion thingy on the net, every self-help book. JUST BE CONFIDENT.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-10-2003 02:58:

quote:
Originally posted by trancEyes22
lick me...lol


would it work if i did that as well??


how does the direct approach work, say in school? Like, just go up to a girl and ask her if she would wanna grab lunch after class? Obviously introducing yourself and being casual and all...but would that work, or would that scare her off?



Posted by trancEyes22 on Mar-10-2003 03:00:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
would it work if i did that as well??


how does the direct approach work, say in school? Like, just go up to a girl and ask her if would wanna grab lunch after class? Obviously i'd introduce myself first...




hehe yes it'd work for u too...haha...but this guy asked for my number last week when i was at the student union. i had just finished eating lunch and he came over and asked if he could sit down. i was really flattered that he was so polite about it. we started talking and he really charmed me. confidence, not cockiness is the key!


Posted by Orbax on Mar-10-2003 03:03:

i just walk up and snap my fingers. Half the time are like what, and all like "BITCH (slap) gimme yo NUMBAH" and then i call them at 2 am when im drunk and tell them to come to my place for sex


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-10-2003 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
i just walk up and snap my fingers. Half the time are like what, and all like "BITCH (slap) gimme yo NUMBAH" and then i call them at 2 am when im drunk and tell them to come to my place for sex


hm, i've considered this strategy, but i haven't heard any stories of success...


Posted by Orbax on Mar-10-2003 03:08:

you get a lot of nasty hoes with that trick, plus you usually have to pay them like 100 bucks


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-10-2003 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
you get a lot of nasty hoes with that trick, plus you usually have to pay them like 100 bucks


really?? thats it?? wow...i'll have to give that a try sometime


And on an unrelated note, hearing BT drop Flaming June as his final encore song is the best thing in the world...


Posted by Endlesswave on Mar-10-2003 03:53:

Lol Peter you kill me. Have any luck w that girl yet? Any to add to what everybody has already said, just go for it, introduce yourself and do the "Hi, I think you are very cute/beautiful, what's your name?" thing. It should work. If it doesn't and it looks like she's not into talking then feck off because it won't be worth it. For me the problem is that part initially approaching the girl...once I do that it's no problem from then on.


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