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Originally posted by JM good thing the US DOES support Israel! too bad the rest of Europe don't dish out ca$h to Israel like the US does! >JM<

I am pretty sure to remember that Germany has dished out cash for Israel at times, but i may be wrong.

Nonetheless, I don't see the moeny being well spent. There seems to be little/ no effort on the Israeli side to SOLVE the conflict in a non-military way.

Of course, the Palestinians aren't doing anything in that direction either.

Thinking Bush, I'd say "nuke them all, solve the problem, liberate some people".

the only little trouble he has with that, is that he needs to be able to label israeli's as terrorists, which he cannot, so he needs to take a side, hence he will rather kill a couple of muslims (who don't count as real people anyhow, now do they?) and see that his Israelis are victorious.

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Originally posted by melech_mike They have no credible stats to back them up accrider. dont you see a pattern here... lies and false claims always come from same people! They say things for shock value so when ignorant people read it, they find it dramatic and keep it in mind. This is what you call propaganda!

and only the side that doesn't agree with you does that, right? Ever thought that 'your' side does a little bit of propaganda as well? huh? ever occured to you that there is also pro-israeli propaganda? Probably not, since you seem to be completely in love with the hardliner course that the Israeli gov't has been running on the Arab issue.

I am not well informed enough to make a good point here, but from the bits and pieces I have acquired over the past couple of years, I don't think that either side (Israel/ Palestinians) are the 'good' guys. They both are as bad as the other one, which is probably why they hate each other so much.

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Nalin, your right, the Jews are after you!!!! RUN!!!!!! Are you scared of Jews? Have they ever thrown your body into a burning stove like Hitler did

have they thrown yours? probably not otherwise you'd not be posting. So why that question?

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What have the Jews done to you to have your panties all tied up?

A jewish person yelled at my non-jewish roommate, who was buying kosher grape juice:

She asked "Are you jewish"
him "no"
she "well, u know that grape juice is made for jews"
*he puts teh juice back*
*she seems happier*

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And kids in Arab elementry schools know how to strap bombs to themselves in the name of allah. Whats up with that? what kind of g-d would ask you to blow up innocent people so that dictator regimes of terror can continue!? Thats one messed up g-d you got there, i'd consider converting to something else if i were you... perhaps your views would fit nice with those of the Raelians!

wow, Mr. Tolerance is speaking. Let's say that OUR god is better than THEIR god.. goo crusades, time for a road trip.

Re: while everyone is busy with the war...

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Originally posted by ahlamalek ... Israel gets a 10 Billion USD in aid. I bet no one heard about it because everyone is busy with the war I'm very proud of you Americans! you have a big heart!

Well, of course, they have to support the motherland!!

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Originally posted by drizzt81 She asked "Are you jewish" him "no" she "well, u know that grape juice is made for jews" *he puts teh juice back* *she seems happier*

and that story is supposed to tell us what exactely?

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Originally posted by TranceGiant and that story is supposed to tell us what exactely?

tolerance swings both ways

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Originally posted by Izzy all? hmmm i dare you to name 20 powerful and influencial people in the US government, scratch that - name 10

Ari Fleischer - White House Press Secretary
Josh Bolten - Deputy Chief of Staff
Ken Melman - White House Political Director
David Frum - Speechwriter
Brad Blakeman - White House Director of Scheduling
Dov Zakheim - Undersecretary of Defense (Controller)
Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense
I. Lewis Libby - Chief of Staff to the Vice President
Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community
Chris Gersten - Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS
Elliott Abrams - Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations
Mark D. Weinberg - Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs
Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense for Policy
Michael Chertoff - Head of the Justice Department's criminal division
Daniel Kurtzer - Ambassador to Israel
Cliff Sobel - Ambassador to the Netherlands
Stuart Bernstein - Ambassador to Denmark
Nancy Brinker - Ambassador to Hungary
Frank Lavin - Ambassador to Singapore
Ron Weiser - Ambassador to Slovakia
Mel Sembler - Ambassador to Italy
Martin Silverstein - Ambassador to Uruguay
Jay Lefkowitz - Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council

(source:http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US...l/bushjews.html)

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Originally posted by ahlamalek ... Israel gets a 10 Billion USD in aid. I bet no one heard about it because everyone is busy with the war http://news.com.au/common/story_pag...255E401,00.html wow Santa Clause is late this year, still ditching around 1500 USD to every israeli. Americans are very genereous, they give out their hard earned cash while their public school system is in ruin, and about 30 million of them aren't covered in any kind of medical insurance. I'm very proud of you Americans! you have a big heart!

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! Now Israel can buy more tanks and missles to kill children with, not to mention bulldozers to destroy more palestinian homes.

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Originally posted by melech_mike Thank g-d! They have no credible stats to back them up accrider. dont you see a pattern here... lies and false claims always come from same people! They say things for shock value so when ignorant people read it, they find it dramatic and keep it in mind. This is what you call propaganda! perhaps we should start off with the billions the US gives Egypt!!! and for what.. peace? we must pay Egypt for peace??? They should pay Israel that 10bill just so we dont go and annililate your fuckin hairy Egyptian ass's!!! Obviously you wont find those sources because they dont exist, and if they do, your too scared that those of us who are educated enough to know whos credible and whos not, would laugh our ass's off at your "source". Nalin, your right, the Jews are after you!!!! RUN!!!!!! Are you scared of Jews? Have they ever thrown your body into a burning stove like Hitler did, or did they ever rip our your heart and wave it in the air like the Palestinian-Arabs do? What have the Jews done to you to have your panties all tied up? You smell like you've been brainwashed. either being brought up by a family who hates Jews, or have been influenced by hate organizations. either way i deem you to be irrelevent in the political discussions on this board! Your an anti-semite!!! you know it and i know it. Dont give me this bullshit of you also being a semite because your not!!! The turm anti-semite is known to be exclusive to Jews and not until recently have a heard stupid Arabs challenging Jews saying "you cant call me anti-semetic, b/c i'm a semite". your a termite, trying to eat away at any Jewish presence in this world! I find it interesting that you say this! If youd like i wil post to you all those dead threads that didn't get answers from you Anti-Israel, Anti-America fucks. Your're trying to tell me that i dont reply, or that occrider doesn't reply or others who support the west's mindset? The true masters of illusion are you guys, those who claim Israel this and America that! You answer the questions posed at you, and dont even dare say that you do! Go look at "is it really about occupation" for starters!!! And kids in Arab elementry schools know how to strap bombs to themselves in the name of allah. Whats up with that? what kind of g-d would ask you to blow up innocent people so that dictator regimes of terror can continue!? Thats one messed up g-d you got there, i'd consider converting to something else if i were you... perhaps your views would fit nice with those of the Raelians! b/c the stats are wrong!!! plain and simple... give us something good to work with. here here! Great point! We try and speak with sentances that others can comprehend on this board. you just through together a bunch of words and sprinkled a few egypts in there... looks like wherever you got your education needs some reform! than you should be relieved that Israel is not getting that $10bill for free from the states!!! ohh, and you hate that word because it puts you on the defence. you are an anti-semite and you dont want to make it publicly known so you get all worked up when someone calls you that. are you scared that the Jews will come after you like Nalin seems to think?? Cyrus, your posts have always been nothing more than plain bullshit. i suggest you put a little more effort into the shit you post. I critisize CNN more than you my 'friend'. to me CNN is just as bad as BBC... no wait... BBC is much worst! This is propaganda because its not true. you cant even find one source to back your claims!!! do i need to say any more???? the hate is in the topics you discuss and how you so easiely love to blame Israel for the worlds problems. there is much more aid going out to countries that have been less a friend to the US. why isn't your dick all up in they're business? Yes ahamalek i do win... because truth will always prevail! i'm not here to make arabs look bad. my goal here is not to let the arabs make Israel look bad with no justification! lies dont work. eventually someone who knows there shit will tear you apart and make you feel so very stupid! So yes this thread is propaganda! Its a lie! and only stirs up incitment and since its false, you should agree with me that Blik should formally close this thread with a message saying "propaganda, lies and incitment are now welcome on TA"! Now that would be the right thing to do... but hey, this is TA, and the majority of the who frequent it are anti-israel, anti-US supports - we will obviously never see the same amount of equality from MOD's like blik as you "anti's" do!

mike mike mike...i was wondering where ur posts are over the topic afterall it has israel's name over it..i didnt read your whole post..well except the one u say i am not educated and stuff and the part about how u should get paid for not annhilating our asses..well concerning my education..i graduated highschool with a 4.0 GPA, i am a computer science senior in the university of california and i own a private lil import buisness..so i dont think that classifies me as uneducated..i tend to type a lil fast and not to proofread my posts as i dont think we are in school here. now concerning egypt..i know how much u hate us egyptians more than other arabs country,maybe cause u failed to take our lands who knows..All i know is we have our lands and u dont so i am happy with that..now i have a request can u flame me and my origin cause i am so intimidated by u and israel. ..its people like you who give israel a bad name..

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior Ari Fleischer - White House Press Secretary Josh Bolten - Deputy Chief of Staff Ken Melman - White House Political Director David Frum - Speechwriter Brad Blakeman - White House Director of Scheduling Dov Zakheim - Undersecretary of Defense (Controller) Paul Wolfowitz - Deputy Secretary of Defense I. Lewis Libby - Chief of Staff to the Vice President Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community Chris Gersten - Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families at HHS Elliott Abrams - Director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations Mark D. Weinberg - Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs Douglas Feith - Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Michael Chertoff - Head of the Justice Department's criminal division Daniel Kurtzer - Ambassador to Israel Cliff Sobel - Ambassador to the Netherlands Stuart Bernstein - Ambassador to Denmark Nancy Brinker - Ambassador to Hungary Frank Lavin - Ambassador to Singapore Ron Weiser - Ambassador to Slovakia Mel Sembler - Ambassador to Italy Martin Silverstein - Ambassador to Uruguay Jay Lefkowitz - Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of the Domestic Policy Council (source:http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US...l/bushjews.html)

Peaceful Warrior, are you using this as your basis for arguing that the Jews have infiltrated the upper levels of our government and are influencing our foreign policy? Because that's how this whole discussion of Jews in our government came about.

Well if you are, this is probably the most significant factor that is missing from your list. THERE ARE NO JEWS IN BUSH'S CABINET. The last presidancy where there were no Jews was Reagan's. Out of those list of Jews there may be 4 people that have ANY kind of significant INDIRECT influence on foreign policy. Actually when you come to think of the size of each govnernment agency this list is probably underrepresented of the Jewish population in America. I would still like somebody to PROVE to me that there is a Jewish infiltration of our government to secretly alter our foreign policy. I don't say it often, but that kind of thinking is just plain racist.

Btw if you're just responding to Izzy's challenge to find 10 jews in the government then I take back my gripe

Well, this fact might look very surprising to some of you, but the fact that the richest people in US are Jews willing to spend more money on the motherland than on home (US) should clear up some things here...

Even if it means taking $$$ from poor little bastards in US and sending that money over to Israel so they can get more weapons and get a few more nuclear bombs.

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Originally posted by fantom Well, this fact might look very surprising to some of you, but the fact that the richest people in US are Jews willing to spend more money on the motherland than on home (US) should clear up some things here... Even if it means taking $$$ from poor little bastards in US and sending that money over to Israel so they can get more weapons and get a few more nuclear bombs.

Where do your statistics come from? I just spent 20 minutes scouring the US census beaureau and I couldn't find anyything that differentiates based upon religion.

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Originally posted by drizzt81 I am pretty sure to remember that Germany has dished out cash for Israel at times, but i may be wrong.

Germany is not 'dishing out' any money to Israel out of goodwill. They are paying for repercusions of the goods stolen from Jews in Nazi Germany! Get you facts straight!

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Originally posted by drizzt81 Nonetheless, I don't see the moeny being well spent. There seems to be little/ no effort on the Israeli side to SOLVE the conflict in a non-military way.

Why dont you think the money is well spent?
On the accusation of little effort to make peace from Israel's side, i ask you how long have you been following this situation in the Middle East? 5 Israeli Prime Minister's have had the position of making peace with Arafat, none have been successful in their efforts. Perhaps you should look into the events that finally made the Israeli's deem Arafat and the PA irrelevent in the path towards peace!

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Originally posted by drizzt81 Of course, the Palestinians aren't doing anything in that direction either.

But rather they actively work against any proposals for peace.

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Originally posted by drizzt81 the only little trouble he has with that, is that he needs to be able to label israeli's as terrorists, which he cannot, so he needs to take a side, hence he will rather kill a couple of muslims (who don't count as real people anyhow, now do they?) and see that his Israelis are victorious.

This paragraph was just plain stupid!

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Originally posted by drizzt81 ...Probably not, since you seem to be completely in love with the hardliner course that the Israeli gov't has been running on the Arab issue.

Yes I am very happy with the new approach the Israeli's have taken on the problem of homicide bombers AKA radical Muslim terrorists! It's the only defensive position that seems to be working!

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Originally posted by drizzt81 I am not well informed enough to make a good point here, but from the bits and pieces I have acquired over the past couple of years, I don't think that either side (Israel/ Palestinians) are the 'good' guys. They both are as bad as the other one, which is probably why they hate each other so much.

Those bits and pieces must have been pretty messed up if you could find a equivalency between what the Israeli's are doing to combat terrorism, and what the Arab's are trying to achieve through they're campaign of terror; the cold blooded murder of innocent men, women, and children. How do you figure they are just as equally in the wrong?

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Originally posted by drizzt81 have they thrown yours? probably not otherwise you'd not be posting. So why that question?

Yes they did.
A part of me is with every single one of those Jew's who we're so brutally sent to they're deaths. And for this very reason is why I�m posting; to make sure peoples misconceptions and hate doesn't bring countries to the point of another genocide.

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Originally posted by drizzt81 A jewish person yelled at my non-jewish roommate, who was buying kosher grape juice: She asked "Are you jewish" him "no" she "well, u know that grape juice is made for jews" *he puts teh juice back* *she seems happier*

A German yelled at my Jewish grandfather, who was praying in his home in Germany; the year 1937:
The Nazi said (in German): You dirty pig
*my grandfather tried to put his book of prayer away and remained silent*
*the Nazi slammed the butt of his gun against my Grandfathers face*
The Nazi yelled: Squeal like a pig dirty yid
*the Nazi preceded to shot my grandfather in the head*
*he seemed happier*

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Originally posted by drizzt81 wow, Mr. Tolerance is speaking. Let's say that OUR god is better than THEIR god.. goo crusades, time for a road trip.

Never, ever claimed the g-d of my people to be "better" than anyone else's. It seems as though those on the other side are the one's claiming that. Say that anyone who doesn't believe in Allah is an infidel and should be killed. But of course misconceptions got you to place the label of crusaders on Israel, the States, and anyone who believes in a free, democratic world.

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Originally posted by occrider Out of those list of Jews there may be 4 people that have ANY kind of significant INDIRECT influence on foreign policy.

i dont really believe that jews have infiltrated the government to influence policy but just FYI, it was paul wolfowitz (dont think he was on that list) who originally authored the doctrine of preemptive action that has apparently been adopted by the current administration.

they had a really interesting episode today on PBS' Frontline show...originally the document appeared during Bush Snr.'s time...towards the end of his tenure, actually...but it freaked a number of ppl. out even inside the defense establishment, and they believed they needed to have a public debate abt it...and thats how it came to the public's attention

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Originally posted by DaveSaenz Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! Now Israel can buy more tanks and missles to kill children with, not to mention bulldozers to destroy more palestinian homes.

They get more money to protect Israel from these children who have been brainwashed and trained to kill. Suggest you check out www.opsick.com
They dont destroy "palestinian" homes; they destroy to homes of known terrorists. But hey, you'd probably reward them wouldn't you, because "thats the right thing to do".

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Originally posted by tranceaholic mike mike mike...i was wondering where ur posts are over the topic afterall it has israel's name over it..i didnt read your whole post..well except the one u say i am not educated and stuff and the part about how u should get paid for not annhilating our asses..well concerning my education..i graduated highschool with a 4.0 GPA, i am a computer science senior in the university of california and i own a private lil import buisness..so i dont think that classifies me as uneducated..i tend to type a lil fast and not to proofread my posts as i dont think we are in school here. now concerning egypt..i know how much u hate us egyptians more than other arabs country,maybe cause u failed to take our lands who knows..All i know is we have our lands and u dont so i am happy with that..now i have a request can u flame me and my origin cause i am so intimidated by u and israel. ..its people like you who give israel a bad name..

What makes me feel that you�re not properly educated are the misconceptions you spew out onto this board over and again.
First, on a side-note, I don�t hate Egyptians more than any other Arab country. I'm sure you all know who takes that spot - although they aren�t even a country. I actually regard the Arabs in Egypt at a much better level than some of they're other Arab counterparts.
Now the misconceptions start when you claim that we "failed to take your land". If I remember correctly we took over all of Egypt's Sinai dessert in 1967. So in reality we actually were victorious in defeating your army and taking over land last in the war.
We gave it back through peace talks that have brought our government closer together, and towards peace treaty.
I don�t wish to flame your origin, I have no beef with the people of Egypt. You got your punishment already for some stupidities done in the past.
Its people like you who give Israel a bad name. Don�t get it twisted; I�m here representing Israel because I know it has done its best trying to deal with terrorists. You don�t try and negotiate with these kinds of people, you punish them for they're crimes against humanity!

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Originally posted by occrider I don't say it often, but that kind of thinking is just plain racist.

Its about time someone besides me called it!
But no, its the majority opinion on this board so its "okay".

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Originally posted by fantom Well, this fact might look very surprising to some of you, but the fact that the richest people in US are Jews willing to spend more money on the motherland than on home (US) should clear up some things here... Even if it means taking $$$ from poor little bastards in US and sending that money over to Israel so they can get more weapons and get a few more nuclear bombs.

Where do you get this shit from? Some of you have been posting accusations straight off conspiracy websites floating across the net. It's plain bullshit. It's hate. It's anti-semitism. It's racist.

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Originally posted by melech_mike They get more money to protect Israel from these children who have been brainwashed and trained to kill. Suggest you check out www.opsick.com They dont destroy "palestinian" homes; they destroy to homes of known terrorists. But hey, you'd probably reward them wouldn't you, because "thats the right thing to do". What makes me feel that you�re not properly educated are the misconceptions you spew out onto this board over and again. First, on a side-note, I don�t hate Egyptians more than any other Arab country. I'm sure you all know who takes that spot - although they aren�t even a country. I actually regard the Arabs in Egypt at a much better level than some of they're other Arab counterparts. Now the misconceptions start when you claim that we "failed to take your land". If I remember correctly we took over all of Egypt's Sinai dessert in 1967. So in reality we actually were victorious in defeating your army and taking over land last in the war. We gave it back through peace talks that have brought our government closer together, and towards peace treaty. I don�t wish to flame your origin, I have no beef with the people of Egypt. You got your punishment already for some stupidities done in the past.

welli wont deny that we got our ass wooped big time in 1967..no denying that but come on bro..if it wasnt for our attacks of 6th october 1973..there wouldnt have been any peace talks what so ever..we are the only arab country that stood up for israel..u gotta give us credit for that..and can u remind me what did u want from egypt in the first place..i can understand u say with palestine thats ur land too and stuff..but what did u have to do with Egypt in the first place.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic welli wont deny that we got our ass wooped big time in 1967..no denying that but come on bro..if it wasnt for our attacks of 6th october 1973..there wouldnt have been any peace talks what so ever..we are the only arab country that stood up for israel..u gotta give us credit for that..and can u remind me what did u want from egypt in the first place..i can understand u say with palestine thats ur land too and stuff..but what did u have to do with Egypt in the first place.

Why dont you explain to me what played out on October 6th, '73. I'd love to hear some more twisted misconceptions from you about Israel and Egypt.

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Originally posted by occrider Btw if you're just responding to Izzy's challenge to find 10 jews in the government then I take back my gripe

ya, hehe...
otherwise true that the only ones there with any influence or power are Brad Blakeman, Paul Wolfowitz (i though he wasnt working in this administration), Dov Zakheim, Elliott Abrams (he has a cool sounding job, i'd like to have) and maybe the ambassadors...

i laughed at this one: Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community.... it would kinda help out his position if he were jewish.

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Originally posted by melech_mike Why dont you explain to me what played out on October 6th, '73. I'd love to hear some more twisted misconceptions from you about Israel and Egypt.

dont change the subject and answer my question first.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic welli wont deny that we got our ass wooped big time in 1967..no denying that but come on bro..if it wasnt for our attacks of 6th october 1973..there wouldnt have been any peace talks what so ever..we are the only arab country that stood up for israel..u gotta give us credit for that..and can u remind me what did u want from egypt in the first place..i can understand u say with palestine thats ur land too and stuff..but what did u have to do with Egypt in the first place.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic dont change the subject and answer my question first.

Let me first understand what you think happend in 1973. i can than properly answer any questions regarding that event for you.

Trust me i will NOT change the subject.

alright dude in october 6th 1973,anwar el sadat seazed the oppertunity of the israeli people having a holiday and ordered an attack on the israeli forces..the attack was successful as it took the israeli people down..the troop succeeded in hittin the barlif line and bringing down the sand wall. The attack was a success..the isreali forces did gather their forces together and faught back..but fearing the outcome of a long bloody war the us did call both sides for peace and treaty and we as long as the israeli people agreed and infact i think el sadat was the only leader to have the guts to go to isreal himself and he was nicely greated from israel and peace was on its way.. IF it wasnt for the attck of 73 i dont think peace would have ever came right?...now u answer my question..what do u want of a land that is not urs.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic alright dude in october 6th 1973,anwar el sadat seazed the oppertunity of the israeli people having a holiday and ordered an attack on the israeli forces..the attack was successful as it took the israeli people down..the troop succeeded in hittin the barlif line and bringing down the sand wall.

Brought the Israeli people down?? Yes many Israeli's did die due to the initiation of war from Egypt and Syria. Israel was caught off guard, and was not ready to counter-strike right away due to the religious holiday on which this war started. Yom Kippur is the holiest day for Jew's, and striking them on this day was an immoral move on the part of the Arab nations.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic The attack was a success..the isreali forces did gather their forces together and faught back..

A success? hardly! Israel mobilized they're troops and came back at the Arab nations that vowed war against her with full vengeance. Before Israel even got into the war they had lost 2000 people. When Israel finally counter attacked, they had devoured the armies of both Egypt and Syria. A total of 8500 casualties were inflicted upon the two Arab nations. Israel lost a total of 6000 by the end of the war.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic but fearing the outcome of a long bloody war the us did call both sides for peace and treaty and we as long as the israeli people agreed and infact i think el sadat was the only leader to have the guts to go to isreal himself and he was nicely greated from israel and peace was on its way..

Thank g-d Egyptian Prime Minister Sadat realized the horrid mistake he made, and open himself and his country up for peace talks with Israel. A very brave move on his part in a time when anti-Israel sentiment was very prominent. I commend him from taking this step towards peace.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic IF it wasnt for the attck of 73 i dont think peace would have ever came right?

Wrong. Why would you possibly think that peace talks were only open after the strike against Israel on the parts of Egypt and Syria?
Israel, since its creation in '48, was always open to peace talks with its Arab neighbours.
It took Egypt that war to realize even though they catch Israel off guard, out number them 3 fold in military man power and equipment, they will still never defeat them. Sadat's mentality changed from that of destroying Israel, to living peacefully with them. If you can�t beat them, join them. Peace could have come earlier if only Egypt had wanted peace sooner. Once again, thank g-d Egypt at least made peace when they did.

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Originally posted by tranceaholic ...now u answer my question..what do u want of a land that is not urs.

Who said anything about Israel wanting that land? We took it over because your armies attacked up and lost. It�s your own fault. You can't cry about loosing land if you come attack ours, expecting to gain land, and in turn you lose your own land. Its part of war; you lost fair and square.
Out of Israel's intense willingness to make peace with Egypt, they decided that the land they gained (although a strong military strategic asset for Israel) was not worth conflict with its Neighbours. Israel doesn�t care to get the Sinai; we just took it as territorial gain in war.

Since you won�t believe any of my sources, I choose a British source.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/...000/2514317.stm

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Originally posted by Izzy ya, hehe... otherwise true that the only ones there with any influence or power are Brad Blakeman, Paul Wolfowitz (i though he wasnt working in this administration), Dov Zakheim, Elliott Abrams (he has a cool sounding job, i'd like to have) and maybe the ambassadors... i laughed at this one: Adam Goldman - White House Liaison to the Jewish Community.... it would kinda help out his position if he were jewish.

just felt like doing research

i don't really put significant stock into the list of people i presented as a much bigger list of radical christians in the bush administration could be made.

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Originally posted by PeacefulWarrior just felt like doing research

its cool

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Originally posted by melech_mike Who said anything about Israel wanting that land? We took it over because your armies attacked up and lost. It�s your own fault. You can't cry about loosing land if you come attack ours, expecting to gain land, and in turn you lose your own land. Its part of war; you lost fair and square. Out of Israel's intense willingness to make peace with Egypt, they decided that the land they gained (although a strong military strategic asset for Israel) was not worth conflict with its Neighbours. Israel doesn�t care to get the Sinai; we just took it as territorial gain in war. Since you won�t believe any of my sources, I choose a British source. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/...000/2514317.stm

dude u have been attacking egypt since 1956..u were part of the triple attacked we sufferd in 1956 along with the brits and the french..what do u have to say about it..did we ever do anything to israel before that nope. What do u say about that except ur intrest in our suez canal and lands.

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