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Originally posted by dj tek yeah.. but i remember deion sanders' inside the park home run more..

yes i forgot to mention that one...and andy hawkins' no hitter turned loss...we've been through all this already...no need to prove a thing to the true fans...

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Originally posted by Highmay yes i forgot to mention that one...and andy hawkins' no hitter turned loss...we've been through all this already...no need to prove a thing to the true fans...

haha messed up thing is, i watched that whole game where hawkins threw the no hitter that we lost.. i must say it was a weird ass feeling when the game ended... next day daily news front page : "Oh No Hitter."

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Question to Vlad, Jayme, and Brian (kidnyce)... when was the last time anyone has hated on the Yankees in this thread?

ok so if i went to boston and sat in a internet cafe with a yankees hat on and opened this thread, i wouldn't be hated on? LOLS =P

i'm just stating that as a yankee fan - when they are winning people still talk shit and when they are losing they talk shit. cuz when they are winning people talk shit about their payroll and when they are losing people still talk shit about their payroll so what the fuck is the point people are trying to make already? I was born a yankees fan and I'll die as a yankees fan and not because of their payroll.

not necessarily in this thread - it's what a yankee fan is about. having to deal with people who are NOT yankees fans. I grew up as a yankees fan so i know what its like to have people against the yankees and then for them when they are winning. it's quite the cycle i should add.

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Originally posted by dj tek yeah.. but i remember deion sanders' inside the park home run more..

What else happened in that game? Bo Jackson hit 3 homers in 3 at bats and dove to catch Deion Sanders hit and got hurt. He never got to bat for a 4th time in that game. Once he came back from the disabled list, he hit a homer in his first at bat. There's a litle tidbit for ya that I remember.

Highmay's right, I know the true Yankee/Mets fans already, we've been through this.

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Originally posted by Member of X I'm gonna have to agree with Shamus because there's really only like 6 people on this thread for about 97% of it. Sal and Shamus are the only non-yankee fans mostly and they don't hate really. Shamus just loves Red Sox guys which is kind of pukey but I'll let that slide... and likes to lecture us.

I really only love Manny now. He's the only Sox that I really dig. I mean, I'll say Ortiz is the best LH hitter when the game is Bonds-less, but he's no where near my favorite. Manny and Pedro. But Pedro's a Metropolitan now.

As for the lecturing... I like to look up stats. Bitches...

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Originally posted by Shamez214 I really only love Manny now. He's the only Sox that I really dig. I mean, I'll say Ortiz is the best LH hitter when the game is Bonds-less, but he's no where near my favorite. Manny and Pedro. But Pedro's a Metropolitan now. As for the lecturing... I like to look up stats. Bitches...

why do you only love manny? don't you think he's alittle too nonchalant?

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Originally posted by kid nyce why do you only love manny? don't you think he's alittle too nonchalant?

from waiver wire to world series mvp... i think he can do whatever lol

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Originally posted by kid nyce why do you only love manny? don't you think he's alittle too nonchalant?

I explained up above... or in another thread... but I'll give a small recap.

I love that he's nonchalant. Unlike most (seems like Yankee fans are more into this than others ), it doesn't bother me when players are laid back Manny-style. Matter of fact, I prefer them to be. Baseball is a game to me. It should be played and enjoyed as that. And, I think of all the players in the majors, Manny personifies that the most.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 from waiver wire to world series mvp... i think he can do whatever lol

but does that mean you don't run out a pop fly? great hitter i don't take that away from him and he's getting 20mil for the season - i've noticed it before but was pretty shocked when they made a big deal of it on tv. especially since it was televised in boston. yea great accomplishments i wont take that away from him. i dunno, i've played ball before and honestly know that ball players who look to the pro's as idols (i did when i played in college) help them shape and model themselves as those role models.

i think most people agree though that he's not the standard bearer for hustle/defensive prowess. everyone just knows he's a hitter.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 I explained up above... or in another thread... but I'll give a small recap. I love that he's nonchalant. Unlike most (seems like Yankee fans are more into this than others ), it doesn't bother me when players are laid back Manny-style. Matter of fact, I prefer them to be. Baseball is a game to me. It should be played and enjoyed as that. And, I think of all the players in the majors, Manny personifies that the most.

i guess you can say so, maybe i see it differently cuz i played the sport through college so i was always taught to play hard, run things out, stretch singles to doubles - you know the whole competitive mentality. Then again, getting paid 20mil and not running 1/4way down the line kinda says to me that he doesn't care.

i mean yea he's swinging a bat thats on fire but that's like saying Ortiz is the leagues MVP yet he doesn't play the field?

I'm more of a Cal Ripken/Pete Rose type of player. Those guys are who i model my baseball after.

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Originally posted by kid nyce i guess you can say so, maybe i see it differently cuz i played the sport through college so i was always taught to play hard, run things out, stretch singles to doubles - you know the whole competitive mentality. Then again, getting paid 20mil and not running 1/4way down the line kinda says to me that he doesn't care. i mean yea he's swinging a bat thats on fire but that's like saying Ortiz is the leagues MVP yet he doesn't play the field? I'm more of a Cal Ripken/Pete Rose type of player. Those guys are who i model my baseball after.

Totally see what you're saying. This is obviously a case of preference. I prefer fun/laid back players, you prefer gritty/hard-nosed players. Probably the reason why Pedro is my favorite pitcher and not someone like Randy Johnson or Roger Clemens... Although... I do not like Dontrelle. Weird. Probably because he's in my division.

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Originally posted by kid nyce i guess you can say so, maybe i see it differently cuz i played the sport through college so i was always taught to play hard, run things out, stretch singles to doubles - you know the whole competitive mentality. Then again, getting paid 20mil and not running 1/4way down the line kinda says to me that he doesn't care. i mean yea he's swinging a bat thats on fire but that's like saying Ortiz is the leagues MVP yet he doesn't play the field? I'm more of a Cal Ripken/Pete Rose type of player. Those guys are who i model my baseball after.

I agree with you 100%, that's always how I feel. Especially having played baseball for 10 years myself and fighting to get that extra base and how important it was at times for your team to win. And I was a coach's son so he instilled that aggressiveness in me.

I love guys like Matsui who is stoic but just goes about his business. Or Jeter who ALWAYS hustles at every opportunity. Manny's nonchalent behavior makes me think he could be even more.

Amazing talent though no question!

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Originally posted by Member of X I love guys like Matsui who is stoic but just goes about his business. Or Jeter who ALWAYS hustles at every opportunity. Manny's nonchalent behavior makes me think he could be even more. Amazing talent though no question!

how ridiculous did soriano look last night...

so would yankee fans rather have kept soriano or have followed through and traded for a-rod?

I LOVE SORIANO, always have, always will!! So want and what's best for the team might not be the same in this case.

Great play by Jetes though.

There's so many what-if's in baseball. What if Manny tried harder and studied pithcers? He could feasibly be the RH Ted Williams. What if Pedro knew how to "pitch" when he could still throw 97? He used to just blow it by people and now he has to change speeds and pitches constantly. If he was doing that 5 years ago... I don't even want to think about. What if Ken Griffey never got injured? What if Mickey Mantle took more care of himself? So many... I just accept the players for who they are and what they do and try not to think about what if things were different.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 so would yankee fans rather have kept soriano or have followed through and traded for a-rod?

The funny thing is that that would totally have changed the face of baseball. The Red Sox may not have even won the WS... who knows.

I was always a fan of Soriano but he his bat wasn't proven like A-Rods is and yes at times A-Rods bat is questionable. He just doesn't lead the team like Jeter does. Granted his bat is proven over Sorianos, I say we just bring Wade out of retirement and have him back in the corner and let A-Rod and Jeter play the middle infield.

owait is that another bostonian in pinstripes?

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Originally posted by Shamez214 There's so many what-if's in baseball. What if Manny tried harder and studied pithcers? He could feasibly be the RH Ted Williams. What if Pedro knew how to "pitch" when he could still throw 97? He used to just blow it by people and now he has to change speeds and pitches constantly. If he was doing that 5 years ago... I don't even want to think about. What if Ken Griffey never got injured? What if Mickey Mantle took more care of himself? So many... I just accept the players for who they are and what they do and try not to think about what if things were different.

I don't like wasted talent though like Strawberry. It's a shame I guess. But being lazy is one thing. Being arrogant with his 97 mph heater is another story. I'll take the arrogance anyday over the laziness.

Griffey's on fire right now.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 The funny thing is that that would totally have changed the face of baseball. The Red Sox may not have even won the WS... who knows.

To the rest of the baseball world yes it did make an impact but i think the greatest impact to the yankees wasn't losing soriano but losing Nelson. I still am and always will be a fan of Jeff Nelson now that's the perfect setup man for Mo.

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Originally posted by Member of X I don't like wasted talent though like Strawberry. It's a shame I guess. But being lazy is one thing. Being arrogant with his 97 mph heater is another story. I'll take the arrogance anyday over the laziness. Griffey's on fire right now.

Agreed... Strawberry and Gooden. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!

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Originally posted by kid nyce To the rest of the baseball world yes it did make an impact but i think the greatest impact to the yankees wasn't losing soriano but losing Nelson. I still am and always will be a fan of Jeff Nelson now that's the perfect setup man for Mo.

Well... Gordon did a pretty good job last year, man.

But look... if the Sox had gotten Rodriguez, they had a trade in place to send Nomar to the White Sox for Magglio Ordonez as well. Which means there would've been no trade for Cabrera, Mientkiewicz, and Dave Roberts mid-season. The non-trde of Rodriguez to the Sox is probably what won them a championship.

I'm not taking anything away from Alex Rodriguez here... I think he's the best player in baseball.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 so would yankee fans rather have kept soriano or have followed through and traded for a-rod?

no way man...i was just reffering to what sopriano did last night in the first inning...

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Well... Gordon did a pretty good job last year, man. But look... if the Sox had gotten Rodriguez, they had a trade in place to send Nomar to the White Sox for Magglio Ordonez as well. Which means there would've been no trade for Cabrera, Mientkiewicz, and Dave Roberts mid-season. The non-trde of Rodriguez to the Sox is probably what won them a championship. I'm not taking anything away from Alex Rodriguez here... I think he's the best player in baseball.

I still think nelson is the shit especially with Mo behind him - what the hell does he have to worry about?

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