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Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-01-2004 18:38:

well...i'm not one to give guidance about keeping to working out because i've had my slumps with that...and i think the main reason i would have problems is because i'm not doing other shit right. i mean if you are eating right...you're gonna have a lot of energy and wanna go make some muscle. if you aren't eating right then you are gonna feel really lazy and won't be productive.


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by PVD & T[]C
i have the same problem as Dmatrox. i used to go to the gym like 5 times a week but that was years ago. i just cant find the motivation to go anymore. i even bought a total gym, which is suprisingly effective, and ive even lost the motivation to use that now too. it is like a chore. i wish i could find the motivation to go cause i am a little scrawny, and i wanna build more muscle, or atleast get a decent set of pecs and maybe a slightly noticable six pack. i dont need to be crazy ripped or anything.


I'll make a suggestion to you, a pretty simple one but surprisingly effective:

Think up one or two goals, write them down, and start from there. Maybe your first goal can be to work out 2 times this week. Simple enough! And then build off of that and soon you will see it snowball. But KEEP WRITING THEM DOWN until it is just second nature for you to do these things. Here is a story you might be able to relate to:

Each week I set aside a certain amount of money for vinyl. And then I go to the record shop or online and spend that money. Well it first started out that I would go and just browse and see what they had and make my purchases that way. Alot of fun yes but, then I looked at my vinyl collection and saw just a bunch of random shit! So now I have written down a master list of the vinyls that I want; 3 weeks out of the month I have to buy from that list, 1 week out of the month I can look for random stuff. Now my collection is growing in a more desirable fashion - as long as I stick to my plan.

My point is, you'll be more likely to get your results and stay motivated if you know what you're working towards and you've set expectations for yourself. Hope this helps!

Edit: Make sure you include dates in your goals; they should always correspond with a timeframe, that way you force accountability on yourself. And one more thing, if I ever don't feel like working out I think this to myself: "I bet Richard Simmons is working out right now, no way am I going to let that bastard outwork me!"


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 02:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
"I bet Richard Simmons is working out right now, no way am I going to let that bastard outwork me!"


HAHAHAHAHAHA i like that!!!

i only got one goal in mind...look like this..only buffer legs hehehe (marky mark i hate you )


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
i only got one goal in mind...look like this..only buffer legs hehehe (marky mark i hate you )


I'll bet he eats chicken fried steaks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and still looks like that.


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 02:43:

probably...i wish i could get that lean. i WILL look like that by next summer hehehe...i must!!!


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 02:52:

I got that lean ONCE. I did it the summer before my senior year in college. My diet all summer long was tuna, chicken, oatmeal, and protein shakes. I looked great but felt like shit. Well, maybe not like shit but my strength levels were so low it was ridiculous. I was always getting comments at the gym: "That's all you can lift?? Man, you look alot stronger than that!"


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 02:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
I got that lean ONCE. I did it the summer before my senior year in college. My diet all summer long was tuna, chicken, oatmeal, and protein shakes. I looked great but felt like shit. Well, maybe not like shit but my strength levels were so low it was ridiculous. I was always getting comments at the gym: "That's all you can lift?? Man, you look alot stronger than that!"


how much cardio were you doing back then? my friend easily was that lean when he did a competition...but he was basically starving himself and hitting some mad cardio


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 03:20:

It was ridiculous cardio, I may have been a little overboard. I would go monday thru friday every morning at 5:30. 30 min on stairmaster, 15 min on treadmill. Some nights I would go back home after lifting and eat, wait 30 min and then go back to the gym and do another 30 min of stairmaster. And sometimes I would do cardio Saturday morning, go back home and eat, and then go back to the gym and lift. I did all cardio, except evenings, on an empty stomach. I didn't miss one weekday of cardio that whole summer! It was difficult to readjust my schedule when I went back to school, as I was going to bed every night at 9 pm. I kinda miss some of that rigorous schedule though.


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 03:24:

well if that is what it'll take...then that's what i'll have to do. i'll just do cardio every morning...and then lift later on in the day when i get some eats in me...of course as always...i'm afraid that all my muscle will go away ...but i guess 30-40 mins of cardio wouldn't be too counter productive...


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 03:37:

I was taking creatine and HMB and eating a little over 240 grams of protein everyday to try and minimize the muscle loss. I really started looking good in the first week of august, except I was still carrying just a bit of water due to the creatine. I stopped taking that for the last two weeks of summer and lost 7 pounds almost instantly. When I lost those last 7 pounds it blew my mind! I couldn't believe what I looked like, it made my summers-worth of isolation from the world entirely worth it. When you get to the point you will totally see what I mean, just standing there grinning at yourself. And then I drank a beer and was buzzing after half the bottle!


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 03:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
I was taking creatine and HMB and eating a little over 240 grams of protein everyday to try and minimize the muscle loss. I really started looking good in the first week of august, except I was still carrying just a bit of water due to the creatine. I stopped taking that for the last two weeks of summer and lost 7 pounds almost instantly. When I lost those last 7 pounds it blew my mind! I couldn't believe what I looked like, it made my summers-worth of isolation from the world entirely worth it. When you get to the point you will totally see what I mean, just standing there grinning at yourself. And then I drank a beer and was buzzing after half the bottle!


hahaha sweet. i'm going to africa next summer to see my ex...so i gotta be looking teh sexy hahaha. i think i could do it by then...i just gotta work hard at that shit. do you think that point you were at could be maintained indefinitely? how come you aren't that way anymore? i know i've let myself go in that past...no way i'm in my best shape right now...but what happened with your situation? did you just try bulking again or what?


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 04:20:

Yeah, I think it could be maintained indefinitely to a certain point but, you really really really have to watch the diet if you are not doing all that cardio.

I try to maintain a happy medium now, whereas I'm still very lean but I can go into the gym and have plenty of energy for workouts. Plus I can have some flexibility in my diet and not give myself a complex about straying from it a litle bit. I think if I wanted to get back to that crazy ripped shape now, I might be a month or 3 weeks away from it, if I turned on the crazy cardio again and dropped the creatine.

I dunno, all this talk is kind of making want to resurrect my old RATM - Evil Empire tape (yes tape) that i listened to for every cardio session that summer and do it all again. When are you planning to start this?


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 04:25:

well...i'm of course always working out...i'm going away this weekend to toronto, but i would assume starting right after that hehehe...next week. my goal would to basically look fantastic by juneish...i'm guessing if i did the crazy daily cardio factor i could probably be that ripped in 5-6 weeks easy. i also of course wanna add some muscle to that...but i think if i eat right...that i'll be able to make some additional improvement...

i've just let myself go...i feel so weak and fatty. i mean...i still look pretty decent to normal people, but another lifter could totally spot the illusion i have going on hehehe.

we should keep the daily log in this thread of what we are doing...and be honest about cheating on diet, missed days, etc...


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 04:33:

Well, if you do start next week, I might do it for at least a month also, for old times sake. And that way you won't have to fly solo for at least the first month. Let me know.


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 04:36:

why just a month?...what are your goals? long term...


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 04:45:

My long term goal is 30% to maintain my size and 70% to maintain my strength. The strength is more important so I can be competitive on the basketball court.

I think after a month of doing the daily morning cardio I could be ok with my size and strength but, going longer than that I fear I would start to see my strength suffer. But I would like to rip up hardcore again. (insert evil laugh)


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-02-2004 04:50:

yeah i could see you taking hits on the strength with that much cardio. and actually lemme ask you..

i used to be able to do a lot of weight on exercises...i had a period where i did a lot of cardio and lost that strength and its never come back to me. i don't mind THAT much since i really only give a damn about looking good hahaha, but i do wish i could get that strength back. i suppose my method of training, i usually only aim for 12 reps, doesn't really support maxing and that kinda shit...but what do you think about that? any thoughts on how i can get that strength back? my friend is having the same problem. i mean we both lost a lot of body fat and we just can't lift a lot of weight anymore.


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-02-2004 05:21:

Well, after I got hardcore into being ripped, I got hardcore into getting big. So eventually I gained all my strength back and more. I did it by working in a low rep range with big movements and even a little powerlifting. But definitely shedding that fat made me lose strength, no doubt about it. I think you can gain lean muscle without gaining fat but, it's just easier to gain muscle when you have no limits to your energy supplies.

I think that's why so many pro bodybuilders have their 'phases' throughout the course of the year. Their weight may fluctuate 50 - 60 pounds over the course of a year, between their diet phase and building phase.


Posted by The Peach on Sep-02-2004 07:30:

quote:
i suppose my method of training, i usually only aim for 12 reps, doesn't really support maxing and that kinda shit...but what do you think about that? any thoughts on how i can get that strength back? my friend is having the same problem. i mean we both lost a lot of body fat and we just can't lift a lot of weight anymore.


hi there, i've been training since early march and have seen great results with using Plyometrics and changing my sets and reps...

if you're interested in sheer strength and toning (rather than mass with not much definition):

You should definitely get into training with plyometrics. if you dont know what this is...go to http://www.weightsnet.com/Docs/plyometrics.html . it is the sort of training that athletes do to increase their strength by increasing the speed that their muscles contract. this will make you bigger and cut, but not beefy.

As far as reps and sets. I do 15 reps or a couple more...just as long as the last two reps are a bitch. Then, add 2.5 or 5 lbs to the machine and do 12 reps. Don't add more weight for the last set and do 10. i've found that increasing your weights for your sets really helps you lift more over time.

good luck!!!


Posted by Omegasox on Sep-02-2004 13:33:

The best way to gain strength is high intensity, low rep exercises. Keep it simple, stick with DB/BB exercises like Bench, Squat, DL's, etc. If you don't normally do squats, once you start doing them on a consistent basis you will see an enormous gain of mass throughout your entire body.


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-07-2004 15:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...i'm of course always working out...i'm going away this weekend to toronto, but i would assume starting right after that hehehe...next week. my goal would to basically look fantastic by juneish...i'm guessing if i did the crazy daily cardio factor i could probably be that ripped in 5-6 weeks easy. i also of course wanna add some muscle to that...but i think if i eat right...that i'll be able to make some additional improvement...

we should keep the daily log in this thread of what we are doing...and be honest about cheating on diet, missed days, etc...


DAY 1

FF wheeeeeerrrrre arrrrrrrre yooooooou?!?!

I did 1/2 hour cardio this morning and am doing chest/back tonight! My 30 days has begunneth!!


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-07-2004 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
DAY 1

FF wheeeeeerrrrre arrrrrrrre yooooooou?!?!

I did 1/2 hour cardio this morning and am doing chest/back tonight! My 30 days has begunneth!!


yoyoyoyo...

i somehow managed to get up at 5 this morning and do 40min of cardio...i haven't decided what i'm gonna do tonight when i got home from work/school. oh and i got my 55g of carbs and 30g of protein for breakfast so far muhahahaha....

and actually i didn't end up going to toronto so i kinda been starting it this weekend already


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-07-2004 16:12:



Eggscellent!


Posted by Floorfiller on Sep-07-2004 16:14:

i think i'm gonna try and do a summary post about the day every night before i go to bed. hopefully i can stay good on diet...that's always my biggest battle...


Posted by Ygrene on Sep-07-2004 16:17:

Gearing up for this upcoming month, I went all out this weekend and ate a bunch of bad stuff. Yesterday, I swear to you that I ate a 4 pound calzone.

I'm usually pretty good about staying strict with my diet but, I always reserve Saturdays as my treat days; makes for a nice little reward for being dilligent all week.


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