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Originally posted by elFreak yes you have, you just were either too fucked to notice, or you are lying about taking that many pills. The gurn is a response that everyone gets, it is unavoidable.

LOL true point

But.... there's subtle jaw clenching and then there's chewing your own teeth gurning:

*** these pics brought to you by methanphetamine!





(no, these are NOT me...taken from the "pictures of drugged out people" on livesets.com LINK

hey that first one's bumbleman
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Originally posted by Ania_xox fuck you asshole i don't share my drugs

well there is enough on your fur to share

hmmm lol

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Originally posted by Brian Scott If you're gonna eat that many damn pills, pop a prozac on your way down. It's like the morning after pill for your brain.

weed > more pills.

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Originally posted by elFreak weed > more pills.

Agreed. But having prozac around to munch on before crashing is always nice.

Prozac > 5-HTP (unless you plan on waking up and eating more pills)

I can't remember ever having a bad come down. Either way I think pills are stupid I don't need them to have a better time. I would never wanna be caught dead sweating my ass off looking like a retard anyways have hard enough time looking like I do.

for real though

I have serious issues with cocaine
there is a whole culture to it that I just don't understand

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Originally posted by Ania_xox for real though I have serious issues with cocaine there is a whole culture to it that I just don't understand

I just like snorting things that's the only cool part about it. Other then that it's like "why did I do that"

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Originally posted by Brian Scott Agreed. But having prozac around to munch on before crashing is always nice. Prozac > 5-HTP (unless you plan on waking up and eating more pills)

back in those days once the pills stopped, they stopped until next weekend because i had been up fist pumping at weird and sketchy afters for 48 hours

smoke a joint and crash for 18 to 24 hours

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Originally posted by elFreak yes you have, you just were either too fucked to notice, or you are lying about taking that many pills. The gurn is a response that everyone gets, it is unavoidable.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times I did 10 in a night and didn't get fucked up.

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Originally posted by iclone kleinenberg + beyer @ avalon?

I wasn't chewing my cheek or grinding my teeth. I just felt like I was going to fucking puke. lol

1. lol at you paying for bunk pills.

2. all of those pretty pictures with me chewing my face off, i did not think i was doing it either.

ben you are a jew and not an Aryan superman you know

i dunno about prozack, but ketamine i found was a good way to come down.. prepare to be absolutely arseholed for an hour or so.. but atleast you have a better chance of getting to sleep quicker.

smoking weed after a lot of pills [ i used to have about 10-15 and a gram of speed] just leads to pure messiness... many a time after gatecrasher a bunch of us would go back to a friends house, get the decks cranked on, everything would be great, having a laugh and so on, then joints get rolled, smoked.. then just messyness, everyone shuts up, apart from the people that think someone was talking to them so try to talk back to them even tho no-one said a thing

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Originally posted by chach I just like snorting things that's the only cool part about it. Other then that it's like "why did I do that"

opposite for me

I'm like "hmmm I think I wanna get high too"

then i see them snorting and i'm like fuuuuuuuuuuck that noise


hash, ganja or louis vuittons for me
all depends on the occasion

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Originally posted by Slylee yea but excessive use of pills causes permanent psychological disorders.

Not for everyone. Most of the time it only happens in people with pre-existing mental disorders, i.e. bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. MDMA has actually been shown to improve mood and mental functioning in PTSD patients.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox

coke is a sexy drug though

but it's addictive and can mess people up. I really don't think I'll ever want it again. Like I said give me weed and a bear and I'm good

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Originally posted by jennypie Not for everyone. Most of the time it only happens in people with pre-existing mental disorders, i.e. bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. MDMA has actually been shown to improve mood and mental functioning in PTSD patients.

agreed.

when you first stop using, you do feel weird for a couple of weeks, but your seratonin levels adjust and everything is ok after the hump.

coke does way more permanent damage.

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Originally posted by jennypie Not for everyone. Most of the time it only happens in people with pre-existing mental disorders, i.e. bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. MDMA has actually been shown to improve mood and mental functioning in PTSD patients.

I know a guy who had a bad hit of acid and now has schizophrenia.
100% ALL THERE totally normal guy beforehand. Now he talks to himself quite a bit and likes to just walk around alone all the time.

true story.

Your serotonin never actually depletes, either. MDMA works in the brain similar to the way SSRIs work. It inhibits the reuptake of serotonin once the channels are full...which they're never supposed to be in the first place. So that down you feel is not because you're depleted, it's because you've been oversaturated...and going back to "normal" now feels like a down.

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Originally posted by Ania_xox I know a guy who had a bad hit of acid and now has schizophrenia. 100% ALL THERE totally normal guy beforehand. Now he talks to himself quite a bit and likes to just walk around alone all the time. true story.

Bull shit. One of the following is true:

A)He was fucked up mentally beforehand (maybe not visibly, but still fucked up)
B)It wasn't acid
C)You're talking out your ass.

you can't compare acid to mdma.

it isn't even close to being the same trip/class of drug.

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Originally posted by Brian Scott Bull shit. One of the following is true: A)He was fucked up mentally beforehand (maybe not visibly, but still fucked up) B)It wasn't acid C)You're talking out your ass.

this.

most "acid" these days is actually pcp passed off as acid. Pcp can lead to severe psychosis.

Yeah drugs can cause psychosis...but not a full on disorder. That stuff has to have been there in the first place. Most schizophrenics' first psychotic break is triggered by just one instance of heavy drug or alcohol abuse.

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Originally posted by jennypie Your serotonin never actually depletes, either. MDMA works in the brain similar to the way SSRIs work. They inhibit the reuptake of serotonin once the channels are full...which they're never supposed to be in the first place. So that down you feel is not because you're depleted, it's because you've been oversaturated...and going back to "normal" now feels like a down.

I never knew that

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Originally posted by jennypie Your serotonin never actually depletes, either. MDMA works in the brain similar to the way SSRIs work. They inhibit the reuptake of serotonin once the channels are full...which they're never supposed to be in the first place. So that down you feel is not because you're depleted, it's because you've been oversaturated...and going back to "normal" now feels like a down.

MDMA causes the brain to produce seratonin at an increased level. Because of the increased production, the seratonin uptake receptors get damaged from doing too much work. Then they can't take in seratonin, which causes the chemical to float around between the synapses and eventually turn into dopamine. Damaged receptors are one leading cause of depression. SSRIs repair those receptors, thus allowing the neurons to absorb the seratonin and put it to work.

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