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kate is a sens fan?

pffft!

Yup

He's been completely out of line too many times to mention lately, not even I can forgive him for that.

But just imagine having a guy like that on your hometeam (excluding those incidents), from the very beginning.

You hate him more than anything, and well, you don't even know him..
Can you imagine HOW MUCH my rival team's fans despise him!

It's pure bliss to have a guy like that, everybody hates to play against, everybody loves to play with.



I say (once again excluding those incidents) that he is among the

Top 5 agitators in the sport today, the bastard-son of Esa Tikkanen.

i understand completely what you mean, just there are unwritten rules that should not be shit on. (ie: you don't try to injure purposely)

dirty is dirty.

i love scrappy players a much as the next guy, in fact i wish we had more of them.

^ agreed. Dirty for the sake of dirty / injury is bullshit.

Tough / physical / powerful is just part of the game.

Ovechkin always impressed me as a scorer who could hit clean, but since moving here I haven't been following the NHL all that closely (used to hit a couple Habs games a season with company seats )

Avery is another **** who shouldn't be playing (and isn't from what I've read recently). Bertuzzi is another one.

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Originally posted by elFreak i understand completely what you mean, just there are unwritten rules that should not be shit on. (ie: you don't try to injure purposely) dirty is dirty.

Exactly what I mean't when I said I can't forgive, those things nearly had me hoping he wouldn't come back to us to finish his career, that says pretty fucking much 'bout how it made me feel.

I think it's time we closed this case for good, I'm sure you agree. Let's just stick to unmotivated Russians and non-existant Koreans.

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i love scrappy players a much as the next guy, in fact i wish we had more of them.

I'm in a bit of a black hole since I hadn't time or the opportunity to watch that many games, especially not Montreal's games.
Tell me something about Latendresse, was he overhyped and thus not received any coverage this season or is it something else? Dunno that much about his role either,
but he's a fairly big guy, can he use that to his advantage (see=shielding the puck, bodycheck, hipcheck, right cross, left jab, le agitage, le scrappage etc.)?

he has potential, but the problem with him is that they threw him into the lineup too soon instead of letting him develop in the ahl. He is not a strong skater, so they expected him to be a power forward, the problem with that being that it is usually a style that needs to be developed properly if you aren't 6'5 225 pounds.

not a 1st line player, and a bit of a defensive liability.

Max Paciorety might take his place.

our best scrappy player is maxime lapierre or mike komisarek imo.

ps there is one korean born player in the nhl...bonus points if you can guess who.

I always liked watching Latendresse. Quality player, nothing seriously special, but not crap either.

That being said, I was going to games during his rookie season when there was more of a "story" about him. Not sure how he's done recently

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Originally posted by elFreak ps there is one korean born player in the nhl...bonus points if you can guess who.

hell if i know, richard park?

ding ding!

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Originally posted by pmoisse I always liked watching Latendresse. Quality player, nothing seriously special, but not crap either. That being said, I was going to games during his rookie season when there was more of a "story" about him. Not sure how he's done recently

spent a lot of time injured.

it has been the habs big story this year, injury after injury!

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Originally posted by elFreak ding ding!

haha! wheresz mah poinz black?

Right.

Read in the paper last night that Habs are probably after Lecavalier or O. Jokinen.

I don't think they'll sign either one of them, but if OJ played for the Habs, that'd be a dream come true for me (maybe even him lol)

i will believe it when i see it!

too many rumors not enough facts! Montreal is like that.

I would rather see vinny, but how much would it cost? Phoenix wants to sell jokinen cheap, but what use is a player that has never played a playoff game in his career? He is also said to be a cancer in the dressing room, so while talented i would be wary of giving too much for him.

The pick up of Mathieu Schneider looks genius right now, 39 years old or not since he has been back the power play is unstoppable and looking like the best unit in the nhl it was last year.

also: do you have a link to this?

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Originally posted by elFreak He is also said to be a cancer in the dressing room, so while talented i would be wary of giving too much for him.

Umm.. Well.. Can't say I've heard that one, for us he was captain with a capital c, loves pressure and always plays for the fans.

Speaking of cancers, I can't think of a single Finnish NHL player that would fit the description (honest!). Niinimaa was, but he's not in the NHL anymore.

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also: do you have a link to this?

I might find one but it's in Finnish so..

obviously vinny would be a popular choice, the all star game showed that, but that contract he's on at tampa is huge. I think they want to shift him cos they're going to be in with about a 1 in 4 chance of having John Tavares in the draft with NYI, Toronto & Atlanta. Hopefully Ottawa move away from that bottom end cos I'd hate it if he went there.

interesting read.

i don't think there will be too many deals made this year, it is too hard with the cap and rental players really have not paid off for teams in the last few years.

look at Pittsburgh and Hossa, that trade is the reason they are so weak this year, they gave too much and lost Hossa.

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Originally posted by DuBam Umm.. Well.. Can't say I've heard that one, for us he was captain with a capital c, loves pressure and always plays for the fans. Speaking of cancers, I can't think of a single Finnish NHL player that would fit the description (honest!). Niinimaa was, but he's not in the NHL anymore. I might find one but it's in Finnish so..

The reason they got rid of him in Florida, was because he was too hard on the young guys and they quit playing. The same is happening in Phoenix, it is always easier to captain your own country men.

I have nothing against Finns once again, but this type of thing happens a lot when Russians, or any other European is captain. Euro players tend to stick together (language i guess) and it has created problems in the past. It is all semantics, and by no means is Jokinen anything other but a top tier player. It could make Koivu happy, but i have a feeling that does not matter and Koivu will Finnish ( ) his career in Minny with his little bro. He simply is not worth the money he will ask at his age vs the actual stats he is able to put up. It is not his fault, Montreal always expected him to be a 1st line center and that is not fair to him because he really isn't. Still a great player and a class act all the way.

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Originally posted by elFreak Montreal always expected him to be a 1st line center and that is not fair to him because he really isn't. Still a great player and a class act all the way.

Always? Right now?

He said that he feels at home in the second line. So if he plays fairly good in the second, that's not good enough because he's expected to score night after night in the first?

I sincerely hope he'll play Montreal til the day he quits, how many players (active) have played for the same team they did 15 years ago? I can think of two, Koivu & Lehtinen.

There really aren't that many.

Sundin.... NOT

Brodeur.

i hope he finishes his career here too!

Like i said, i think it is going to be a money thing. Minnesota wants him and will probably offer more money, so I think that call is up to Koivu. Montreal will not and should not offer him 5 million if they want to win. Kovalev has already said he will play for less to stay in Montreal, let us hope Koivu does the same. I don't think he will finish with the C if he does stay though.

I think he actually wants this, as the pressure is getting to be a bit much on him, he has been very quiet this year.

Detroit has a few.

Joe Sakic
a few others i can't think of at the moment, but there are not that many.

I'd love to see Mikko and Saku on the same team, problem is that they play the same spot and could never fit in the same line

Well, maybe not a problem, jus' sad.

they have played together before for finland i believe and on the same line too! I read it in an article when they faced minny this year.

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