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Posted by gummybear on Jan-19-2009 01:00:

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
do you even know what propaganda is?

i think in your opinion propaganda is anything that is pro palestinian..we can post articles..videos..web pages..reports..speeches...studies..stats...etc..from many different sources and people.....and you will label them as propaganda...

Posted by UmmiE on Jan-19-2009 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
i think in your opinion propaganda is anything that is pro palestinian..we can post articles..videos..web pages..reports..speeches...studies..stats...etc..from many different sources and people.....and you will label them as propaganda...

Well these people here most of them are ignorant and take everything for granted some of them saying they wouldnt even do anything if there families got killed "hello" easier said then done,dont tell me stuff that look good in books tell me stuff based on reality.Gummy these people have no counter argument most of the videos posted here are done by BBC and other sources non arabic or non muslim sources yet they call it biased well they can keep singing that song I dont give a shit about what they think of that its not being posted here for them but for the other's who have a neutral stance on the topic to see what these people do in the first place that leads to hate,anger from the palestine and gaza side to fire rockets onto them.

Posted by gummybear on Jan-19-2009 01:24:

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Originally posted by UmmiE
Well these people here most of them are ignorant and take everything for granted some of them saying they wouldnt even do anything if there families got killed "hello" easier said then done,dont tell me stuff that look good in books tell me stuff based on reality.Gummy these people have no counter argument most of the videos posted here are done by BBC and other sources non arabic or non muslim sources yet they call it biased well they can keep singing that song I dont give a shit about what they think of that its not being posted here for them but for the other's who have a neutral stance on the topic to see what these people do in the first place that leads to hate,anger from the palestine and gaza side to fire rockets onto them.

i hear ya bud..seriously i do..and ya it's frustrating because to us it's so clear..the thing is, some of the people in this thread will never, ever admit that you are right..or that they are wrong..ever....that's cuz they are not seeking the truth or facts..they are supporting a cause/religion/agenda...etc....

just know that there are millions of people in this world that do see it and realize what is going on...and i know that your probably hurting for the people of gaza, as a lot of us in this thread are..i can not imagine the horrors they face...and sometimes when i'm sitting in my living room i think, fuck imagine if a bomb just dropped on this house right now..and for a few seconds i am filled with absolute horror...those are moments when i feel the saddest....

just ignore the losers who are obviously seriously biased..i laugh at people that can't see truth, after it has been placed in front of them over and over again..it's actually really sad and comical at the same time...like those people that argue george bush was a good president...lol...you just gotta look at them, shake your head and, walk away..they're not operating at the same level of consciousness...

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-19-2009 03:24:

Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-19-2009 06:34:

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Originally posted by Abercrombie

Thanks for your insightful input on this issue.

Posted by T_ALI on Jan-19-2009 13:25:

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Originally posted by Abercrombie

Those are american soldiers u moron.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-19-2009 13:59:

Posted by UmmiE on Jan-19-2009 15:05:

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
yes....that is my opinion...as I have made it perfectly clear that I am not pro anything in this thread. Personally, I think Isreal should be blown off the map so the Americans can go in and build some Starbucks and McDonalds.

And have the biggest outdoor parties over there with some sick minimal choonzzzzzzzzzzzzz all day long.

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-19-2009 15:59:

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Originally posted by UmmiE
And have the biggest outdoor parties over there with some sick minimal choonzzzzzzzzzzzzz all day long.

Which is exactly why it's time to start making light of this thread. It's been too stuffy in here, and time for a little humour.

quote:
Originally posted by T_ALI
Those are american soldiers u moron.

No shit sherlock. Animated gifs are not supposed to be serious.

Posted by UmmiE on Jan-19-2009 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
Which is exactly why it's time to start making light of this thread. It's been too stuffy in here, and time for a little humour.

Israeli army chics doing teh crazy pole dancing for you in there army outfits......AJ think again......If not then watch this another biased youtube video LOL:-

Posted by TheDemon on Jan-19-2009 16:18:

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Originally posted by UmmiE
Israeli army chics doing teh crazy pole dancing for you in there army outfits......AJ think again......If not then watch this another biased youtube video LOL:-

They want us to believe that all the females within the Israeli army look like that?

Posted by TheDemon on Jan-19-2009 16:19:

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-19-2009 16:24:

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Originally posted by UmmiE
Israeli army chics doing teh crazy pole dancing for you in there army outfits......AJ think again......If not then watch this another biased youtube video LOL:-

I did a youtube search for "hot palestinian girls" and I this one came up first spot;

Posted by gummybear on Jan-19-2009 20:43:

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Originally posted by UmmiE
And have the biggest outdoor parties over there with some sick minimal choonzzzzzzzzzzzzz all day long.

and i thought you and i were on the same side!!! any man that loves minimal is no friend of mine..OFF WITH UR HEAD!

Posted by geroin on Jan-19-2009 20:47:

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Originally posted by Abercrombie
I did a youtube search for "hot palestinian girls" and I this one came up first spot;

i knew a really hot palestinian girl back in hschool

Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-19-2009 21:11:

Unfortunately, I wasn't successful for Algerian girls

Posted by UmmiE on Jan-19-2009 22:28:

turkish girl

Posted by Yohan on Jan-21-2009 01:35:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
It is now time to send Israel to the international court and have them charged with numbers of crimes against humanity.

Cant wait.

not going to happen

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7841288.stm

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John Ging of Unrwa has raised the question of whether Israel's government should be investigated for committing possible war crimes against Palestinians.

"For all those innocent people who have been killed in this conflict, were they war crimes? International law obliges is to get an answer to that question," he said.

Mr Ban has been more cautious, saying it is not for him to determine whether a war crimes investigation should take place. However, he has stressed the importance of accountability, where necessary.

In reality, a war crimes investigation by the International Criminal Court (ICC) is unlikely. The court's prosecutor and pre-trial chamber can only instigate their own proceedings against a state that belongs to the court. Israel is not a formal member.

The UN Security Council has been known to refer cases against non-members to the ICC, but the US, staunch ally of Israel, could well block such a move. A state party to the court can ask for a referral to the ICC, but there is no Palestinian state.

Posted by hardcore trancer on Jan-21-2009 02:31:

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Originally posted by Yohan
not going to happen

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7841288.stm

Thats fuckin sad.It shows how Israel is getting away from murder just like that and they know they can do it all over again and get away with it.

Posted by Yohan on Jan-22-2009 00:07:

And then, there's Hamas with some lulz

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7843465.stm

quote:

Hamas leader urges West to talk

The political leader of Hamas, Khaled Meshaal, says that the time has come for the West to lift its boycott on his Palestinian Islamist movement.

In a speech aired on Arab satellite TV, the exiled chief said it was "time to start talking to Hamas".

Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, declared a ceasefire after Israel called off its three-week offensive.

The group has claimed victory in the confrontation, saying it stopped Israel achieving its aims.

"I tell European nations... three years of trying to eliminate Hamas is enough. It is time for you to deal with Hamas, which has gained legitimacy through struggle," Mr Meshaal said in a speech from the Syrian capital, Damascus.

"Now it is time to start to talk to Hamas, which is a legitimate force."

Conditions for talks

The four main Middle East mediators - the EU, the US, the UN and Russia - have said there can be no dealing with Hamas until it recognises Israel, renounces violence and accepts interim peace deals signed by the Palestine Liberation Organisation.

Mr Meshaal said that Hamas had withstood Israel's attacks, despite its military superiority.

"The Gaza Strip has scored a victory. The enemy has failed and the resistance, together with our people and nation, has scored victory.

"This is the first war we have won, the first real and large-scale war. That is why the battle in Gaza is a real turning point in the struggle against the Zionist enemy," he said.

"But we still have two important battles ahead of us. The battle to break the siege and the battle to reopen the border crossings, particularly the Rafah crossing."

Israel has blockaded the Palestinian enclave since Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007.

It has refused to fully open border crossings to allow desperately needed aid, goods and construction materials into Gaza.

Mr Meshaal also said the "liberation of Palestine" was no longer "just a dream".

"It is now a reality we can see, we are close to realising it, with God's grace," he said.

Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak also declared victory on Wednesday, as Israeli forces completed their withdrawal.

"We won in a big way," Mr Barak told Israeli Channel 2. "Hamas was dealt a blow it never imagined and will be quiet now for a long time."

Israel's military chiefs have warned that they will respond swiftly to any "provocation" from Hamas.

Posted by T_ALI on Jan-22-2009 00:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan

U said that u're impartial this whole situation but clearly ur pro-Israel.

Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-22-2009 00:51:

quote:
Originally posted by T_ALI
U said that u're impartial this whole situation but clearly ur pro-Israel.

I didn't see yohan type anything that said he was pro anything...all he did was post sayings from a Hamas leaer....which is quite funny

Posted by Yohan on Jan-22-2009 01:06:

quote:
Originally posted by T_ALI
U said that u're impartial this whole situation but clearly ur pro-Israel.

are you that stupid? or did you work so hard to merely be stupid?

or clearly you lack in reading conprehension?

read the entire bloody thread again if you keep failing to notice that i posted articles criticizing both sides

Posted by gummybear on Jan-22-2009 01:18:

i gotta agree..yohan is straddling the fence....

Posted by Yohan on Jan-22-2009 01:21:

quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
i gotta agree..yohan is straddling the fence....

no thank you. i don't like straddling of any sort

it hurts my balls too much

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