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Posted by Spam on Mar-01-2010 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
I'm wrong, I'm wrong - fine to just say that lol
don't call me shit like this

at the end of the day, the hockey gold stays in Canada and that's all that matters!


If i�m not mistaken... In 2006 the Canadian men�s hockey team trashed the locker room after losing to Russia in the quarter-finals. Imagine what they would have done if they�d lost the gold-medal game after LEADING 2-0.


Posted by Summerlover on Mar-01-2010 21:26:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
Just because you got 5 more goal medals than us doesn't mean you "won" the entire Olympics. Take a look at the Silver and Bronze medal counts...we got more than twice of those than you in those categories. Overall is what really matters.


If Overall is really what matters, what do you think people will remember the 2010 games for? USA being awarded the most medals, or Canada taking home the most Gold medals in the history of the games?
Keep thinking what you want, that's what defines you people anyway


Posted by Spam on Mar-01-2010 21:29:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone


Are you that ignorant?


Pfft, it�s no disgrace, just a bad decision by the women. In reality, no one in the world gives a shit, and the vast majority were actually amused to hear about it.

That�s no �disgrace�.

And as for the medal-count. Gold is the most important deciding factor. A gold represents a win, while silver and bronze are just consolation prizes for LOSERS.

Afterall, Seinfeld, I think it was anyway, put it best. Second place is only the first loser.


Posted by osterzone on Mar-01-2010 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Firechild
If Overall is really what matters, what do you think people will remember the 2010 games for? USA being awarded the most medals, or Canada taking home the most Gold medals in the history of the games?
Keep thinking what you want, that's what defines you people anyway

The fact that Canada took home the most means absolutely nothing. Why? Because with the progression of Olympic athletes in the last decade or so (examples: Phelps, Ohno, Bolt, etc.), past records mean jack shit because they get broken so easily.

In four or eight years, when Canada's "most gold" record gets broken, do you think anyone will give a shit? In the future do you think they will look back and say "oh well that Olympics is where Canada placed second in that record"?


Posted by osterzone on Mar-01-2010 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Pfft, it�s no disgrace, just a bad decision by the women. In reality, no one in the world gives a shit, and the vast majority were actually amused to hear about it.

That�s no �disgrace�.


So everyone outside of your basement doesn't care? Holy ignorance Batman!

quote:

And as for the medal-count. Gold is the most important deciding factor. A gold represents a win, while silver and bronze are just consolation prizes for LOSERS.


Yes, and no. A silver or bronze medal is a recognition that's better than nothing in an event (Canada knows this pretty well...look at the USA/Canada comparison I made above).


Posted by FunkyCrew on Mar-01-2010 21:36:

as someone already said - noone is gonna look back and say "oh country X got so many medals in total in 2010", it's "in 2010, country X had the most gold medals"

it's all about:
a. Gold and
b. having the most gold EVER as a hosting country

on both counts we're the winner.


Posted by Spam on Mar-01-2010 21:39:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
So everyone outside of your basement doesn't care? Holy ignorance Batman!


What the hell is that even supposed to mean? Have you even read the reader comments following the news articles about that incident? Apparently, you�re the ONE person commenting on those sites claiming it was a disgrace while hundreds laugh it off as an amusing stunt. Those who don�t comment, obviously don�t care enough to do so, thus making my claim fairly accurate.


quote:
Yes, and no. A silver or bronze medal is a recognition that's better than nothing in an event


Yes, that IS a fairly description of a �consolation prize�, good job dude. And yes, people who come second and third have still LOST the competition. What matters most is the number of VICTORIES, not who�s best at being the best loser.


Posted by WittyHandle on Mar-01-2010 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Firechild
Keep thinking what you want, that's what defines you people anyway


Are you f'ing kidding me?

I cheered Canada the whole way, and many of my friends down here did the same. Your statement says more about you than it does your target.


Posted by slingshot on Mar-01-2010 21:44:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone


What's a disgrace, is the pickle that's up your ass.

Pickle's do not deserve to be treated that way.

I just had VANOC phone mother nature....so hopefully she'll have a lightning bolt coming your way that will zap it out of your ass shortly. Obviously you've seen how tight we are with her. We say, she does. That's how we win medals brah!


Posted by osterzone on Mar-01-2010 21:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
What the hell is that even supposed to mean? Have you even read the reader comments following the news articles about that incident? Apparently, you�re the ONE person commenting on those sites claiming it was a disgrace while hundreds laugh it off as an amusing stunt. Those who don�t comment, obviously don�t care enough to do so, thus making my claim fairly accurate.


Are you that retarded to judge this subject over a bunch of dweebs posting comments on Yahoo! blogs and TSN stories?

Why would anyone be compelled to post a comment on a blog entry that has 5,000 responses and no one will read it?

You seem to think that not being an internet dweeb means you don't care.

quote:

What matters most is the number of VICTORIES, not who�s best at being the best loser.

In events where the USA got Silver/Bronze and Canada didn't even place on the podium, who did better? Who got the victory there when comparing the two countries?

just give it up...you're making yourself look like a total assclown.


Posted by exstasie on Mar-01-2010 21:46:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone


Why are you even trying to justify. The US SHOULD have more medals in EVERYTHING compared to us.

Canadian Population: 34,018,000 (according to Wiki - 2010 Estimates)
United States Population: 308,778,000 (according to Wiki - 2010 Estimates).

Based on that alone the US athlete pool should be significantly larger than ours, have a lot more funding, and should be producing a lot more top athletes than we could even dream of having.

But that doesn't seem to be the case.


Posted by osterzone on Mar-01-2010 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Why are you even trying to justify. The US SHOULD have more medals in EVERYTHING compared to us.

Canadian Population: 34,018,000 (according to Wiki - 2010 Estimates)
United States Population: 308,778,000 (according to Wiki - 2010 Estimates).

Based on that alone the US athlete pool should be significantly larger than ours, have a lot more funding, and should be producing a lot more top athletes than we could even dream of having.

But that doesn't seem to be the case.


You know what? You're right. You're absolutely right.

Because we all know that population totals determine the country with the greatest athletes...hence the reason Jamacian's Usain Bolt is the best runner in the world.




Posted by ChemEnhanced on Mar-01-2010 21:57:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
Do you understand how to count?

Let's compare:

Gold Medals:

Canada - 14
USA - 9
Winner: Canada

Silver Medals:

Canada - 7
USA - 15
Winner: USA

Bronze Medals:

Canada - 5
USA - 13
Winner: USA

Overall Medals:

Canada - 26
USA - 37
Winner: USA

Just because you got 5 more goal medals than us doesn't mean you "won" the entire Olympics. Take a look at the Silver and Bronze medal counts...we got more than twice of those than you in those categories. Overall is what really matters.

Under your logic, you would believe this hypothetical situation:

Country X wins 50 medals, 13 golds
Canada wins 20 medals, 14 golds

CANADA IS BETTER DOOD!!1111!111



Who cares about silver and bronze....they are just second and third place....both loosing positions. In the end Canada won more events in one winter olympics then any other country in history.


Posted by osterzone on Mar-01-2010 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Who cares about silver and bronze....they are just second and third place....both loosing positions. In the end Canada won more events in one winter olympics then any other country in history.

I see we lack reading comprehension here. I already debunked that logic a little while ago.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Mar-01-2010 22:05:

Jesus christ, cant people just be happy on how well BOTH our countries did and shut the hell up?


BOTH countries won the most medals ever in their countries respective histories! Thats AWESOME.



Canada did well in their home country, and the USA did well in the winter games, which they have not always been *as* competitive in, as opposed to summer.



We should be happy that both of our countries are making progress and giving us games worth cheering about!!



Jeff: I see your point, but please can we NOT talk about population ALL over again for the sake of our sanity? Please refer back a few pages....


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Mar-01-2010 22:05:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
Why are you even trying to justify. The US SHOULD have more medals in EVERYTHING compared to us.

Canadian Population: 34,018,000 (according to Wiki - 2010 Estimates)
United States Population: 308,778,000 (according to Wiki - 2010 Estimates).

Based on that alone the US athlete pool should be significantly larger than ours, have a lot more funding, and should be producing a lot more top athletes than we could even dream of having.

But that doesn't seem to be the case.



Population is only a very small factor and it shouldn't be used to justify not getting as many medals. Canada and the US both had over 200 athletes at the games. Yes, the US has a larger population to choose athletes from but when you are talking about the top two or three from each sport the actual athletic skills are not that different. The biggest difference is in funding for training, technology, etc.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Mar-01-2010 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
I see we lack reading comprehension here. I already debunked that logic a little while ago.


Dude, just let it go. Some people prefer winning more medals, some prefer winning more golds. Its a subjective thing, and you can argue all day long, but it wont change anybodys minds.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Mar-01-2010 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Jesus christ, cant people just be happy on how well BOTH our countries did and shut the hell up?


BOTH countries won the most medals ever in their countries respective histories! Thats AWESOME.



Canada did well in their home country, and the USA did well in the winter games, which they have not always been *as* competitive in, as opposed to summer.



We should be happy that both of our countries are making progress and giving us games worth cheering about!!



Jeff: I see your point, but please can we NOT talk about population ALL over again for the sake of our sanity? Please refer back a few pages....


you are right...we should all be happy for how well our countries athletes performed in these games....but I do have to point out again that the USA is number two for overall winter olympic medals so you have always been as competitive in the winter as you have the summer olympics.


Posted by gummybear on Mar-01-2010 22:20:

I don't mean to be rude but why are their a couple of people from across the border trying to debate in a thread where we Canadians were simply wanting to pat ourselves on the back and dabble in a little bit of Nationalism? IMO it's something we greatly lack.

WTF. Let us have our fun. We had more than one media outlet bash our Country in the past few weeks and as far as I know, we haven't fired back at all. We let our success do the talking. It seems to me that there seems to be a bit of international sour grapes goin on here. Probably because everyone got used to the quiet, unasssuming nation of Canada.

I'm sorry but I've seen and heard more than my share of American grand standing and I actually think it rubs some the wrong way to see Canada succeed like this. It's like we're the ugly step sister that has thrown off her coke bottle glasses and shed her baggy clothes only to reveal a smokin body with a saweeet face.
Like I told my husband last night, we're like the chick from that movie She's All That. Nobody would have guessed but now they know!!


Posted by yankeeBaby on Mar-01-2010 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
you are right...we should all be happy for how well our countries athletes performed in these games....but I do have to point out again that the USA is number two for overall winter olympic medals so you have always been as competitive in the winter as you have the summer olympics.



haha ok ok, just seems like we win a shitload of medals in the summer.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Mar-01-2010 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
I don't mean to be rude but why are their a couple of people from across the border trying to debate in a thread where we Canadians were simply wanting to pat ourselves on the back and dabble in a little bit of Nationalism? IMO it's something we greatly lack.

WTF. Let us have our fun. We had more than one media outlet bash our Country in the past few weeks and as far as I know, we haven't fired back at all. We let our success do the talking. It seems to me that there seems to be a bit of international sour grapes goin on here. Probably because everyone got used to the quiet, unasssuming nation of Canada.

I'm sorry but I've seen and heard more than my share of American grand standing and I actually think it rubs some the wrong way to see Canada succeed like this. It's like we're the ugly step sister that has thrown off her coke bottle glasses and shed her baggy clothes only to reveal a smokin body with a saweeet face.
Like I told my husband last night, we're like the chick from that movie She's All That. Nobody would have guessed but now they know!!



quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
Jesus christ, cant people just be happy on how well BOTH our countries did and shut the hell up?


BOTH countries won the most medals ever in their countries respective histories! Thats AWESOME.



Canada did well in their home country, and the USA did well in the winter games, which they have not always been *as* competitive in, as opposed to summer.



We should be happy that both of our countries are making progress and giving us games worth cheering about!!



Jeff: I see your point, but please can we NOT talk about population ALL over again for the sake of our sanity? Please refer back a few pages....


quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
its all good sweetheart, I take zero offense when people run out of intelligent things to say and, to cover for it, make a failed attempt at insulting instead. Unfortunately for him, he looks like a bigger idiot than anyone You guys rock and I would never put "All Canadians" and this dude in the same category...I know better




haha true, ok ok I get what you are saying. I came out wrong, but, as I used to "live" up there, I often debate both sides in defense of two places I care for.

This is not a political statement by any means: I love when things like last night happen and Canada truly appreciates that they have an amazing country with great people! It happens WAY too often that I hear some Canadians spend more energy on what the US is doing as opposed to concentrating on what they have themselves You have a great thing going on up there, why waste energy?

Of course the game itself left a bitter taste for me, but, as a person with strong ties to Canada, I could not be more proud of your country as a whole last night And thus, my frustration (not sensitivity) to the endless negative energy to what everybody else is doing. Its just silly and a waste of time, becuase it wont change anything.


Sorry for the rolled eyes, but I ended up wasting my OWN time in these debates, playing both sides of the fence, and I think the burned American flag pic and the personal digs comment was worthy of those faces


Congrats to Canada and a job well done



um sorry, a couple people, or one dude? Dont forget, that there is one American here being a piss pot and one who is proud of you guys


Lets not make another "OH MY OD THE AMERICANS" comment, please. There are hundreds of you and one guy talking shit. Im sure you can take him! LOLOL


Posted by Orko on Mar-01-2010 22:27:

quote:
Originally posted by osterzone
You know what? You're right. You're absolutely right.

Because we all know that population totals determine the country with the greatest athletes...hence the reason Jamacian's Usain Bolt is the best runner in the world.




Size and funding absolutely influence the winter Olympics. That's why you don't see really poor countries being able to compete; equipment and training is expensive for winter sports.


Posted by yankeeBaby on Mar-01-2010 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Size and funding absolutely influence the winter Olympics. That's why you don't see really poor countries being able to compete; equipment and training is expensive for winter sports.


true story. Bolt is not the best example because anyone can run somewhere


Posted by Spin Laden on Mar-01-2010 22:40:

thread is now very boring.





Melissa Hollingsworth and Linsay Vonn, for starters. We need more curling pics (with disclaimers, of course)


Posted by Abercrombie on Mar-01-2010 22:44:


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