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Originally posted by The17sss This is crap. Your personal animus is clearly getting in the way of objectivity here. I would say Kobe is a top 5 player all time, easy.

Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving, Patrick Ewing, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Moses Malone, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, John Stockton, Isaiah Thomas, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, (in no particular order). If you think Kobe Bryant deserves to be ranked (which is stupid anyways) above any of those players, you're an idiot.

Throw Iverson in that list and we got a deal

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Originally posted by ziptnf Throw Iverson in that list and we got a deal

He does have a higher career PPG than Kobe. Just sayin'

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Wilt Chamberlain, Julius Erving, Patrick Ewing, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Moses Malone, Hakeem Olajuwon, Shaquille O'Neal, Oscar Robertson, Bill Russell, John Stockton, Isaiah Thomas, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, John Havlicek, (in no particular order). If you think Kobe Bryant deserves to be ranked (which is stupid anyways) above any of those players, you're an idiot.

What the fuck ever. Oscar Robertson won 1 championship in 9 tries. Jerry West also has only 1 ring. And this is when there were like 8 teams! Dude if you think John Havlicek and John Stockton should even be allowed to hold Kobe's jock strap, you're the idiot. Your hate for Kobe is deluding you man... name me a single GM or coach who would take John Havlicek or John Stockton over Kobe, all of them in their prime! LOL!!!


You remind me of 75 year old football guy who still talks about Red Grange and Johnny Unitas as being "all time greats" when they would get fucking destroyed against today's athletes.

John Havlicek has 8 rings if you want to bring championships into the argument.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/ratings.cgi

Suck it.

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Originally posted by The17sss You remind me of 75 year old football guy who still talks about Red Grange and Johnny Unitas as being "all time greats" when they would get fucking destroyed against today's athletes.

Except I'm 10 years younger than you old man. Clearly you'd like Kobe to rape you too. You can't compare players from vastly different eras in football because the players are about twice the size, strength, and speed as they were back then. Nice analogy captain straw man.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 John Havlicek has 8 rings if you want to bring championships into the argument. http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/ratings.cgi Suck it.

As I said... I am and I know all things Boston. I love John Havlicek, he was a great player for a long time. BUT HE COULDN'T LAST 2 MINUTES ON THE COURT vs. KOBE. Let me guess... you think Babe Ruth would be relevant today too?

Fuck, "Greatest of all time" arguments are irrelevant when it comes to a point where you're comparing athleticism. Lebron James could probably put the hurt on most of the players that srussell listed, but he's not considered top 10. Being an incredible athlete has nothing to do with being the greatest. You need championships and a reputation before you're considered the greatest. This argument is fucking stupid.

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Originally posted by The17sss As I said... I am and I know all things Boston. I love John Havlicek, he was a great player for a long time. BUT HE COULDN'T LAST 2 MINUTES ON THE COURT vs. KOBE. Let me guess... you think Babe Ruth would be relevant today too?

Omg I bet Kobe Bryant wouldn't be able to compete with athletes 30-40 years from now, that must mean he sucks! I'll keep burning up your straw men as many times as you post them. No, Babe Ruth would not be relevant today, but if you think numbers 5-10 on the all time home run list, and Barry Bonds, are or were better players than Babe Ruth, then you clearly know absolutely nothing about baseball. He also had a career ERA of 2.28 in over 100 starts as a pitcher too.

You should probably stop talking now.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Omg I bet Kobe Bryant wouldn't be able to compete with athletes 30-40 years from now, that must mean he sucks! I'll keep burning up your straw men as many times as you post them. No, Babe Ruth would not be relevant today, but if you think numbers 5-10 on the all time home run list, and Barry Bonds, are or were better players than Babe Ruth, then you clearly know absolutely nothing about baseball. He also had a career ERA of 2.28 in over 100 starts as a pitcher too. You should probably stop talking now.

Oh great.... the arrogant know-it-all fucktard that everybody on TA got sick of listening to is making another appearance. Make a few good points here and there and all of a sudden the peacock feather fan out. Yeah, clearly I know nothing about baseball because I said Babe Ruth would be irrelevant today. And clearly I'm a fucking idiot who needs to stop talking because I had the gall to compare Kobe with Jordan and laugh at the idea of John Havlicek and John Stockton being ranked above Kobe, when you know damn well that's laughable. Fuck off.

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Originally posted by The17sss Yeah, clearly I know nothing about baseball because I said Babe Ruth would be irrelevant today. And clearly I'm a fucking idiot who needs to stop talking because I had the gall to compare Kobe with Jordan

I concur.

You really don't argue well. I think you may have an anger problem. I believe it was you that has suggested many times that Nou should kill himself because you don't agree on politics.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 I concur. You really don't argue well. I think you may have an anger problem. I believe it was you that has suggested many times that Nou should kill himself because you don't agree on politics.

I argue better than you lie... just keep that in mind. I don't have an anger problem, I just have no tolerance for pricks who think they can talk down to me based on opinion rather than fact. You're a poor judge of one's character if you want to base your assessment of me on TA conversations. You honestly think the real me wishes Nou would commit suicide? Really? Let's ask the collective around here what they think of you. I wonder- would you think they were accurate in their analysis of you based on your TA persona?

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Originally posted by The17sss I argue better than you lie... just keep that in mind. I don't have an anger problem, I just have no tolerance for pricks who think they can talk down to me based on opinion rather than fact. You're a poor judge of one's character if you want to base your assessment of me on TA conversations. You honestly think the real me wishes Nou would commit suicide? Really? Let's ask the collective around here what they think of you. I wonder- would you think they were accurate in their analysis of you based on your TA persona?

Not at all, and what exactly did I lie about pray tell? And you have no tolerance for pricks who think they can talk down to you based on opinion rather than fact? Maybe you should take a look in a mirror buddy. And now that I think about it, yes, I think you have an anger problem. I think you have an anger problem because you throw little hissy fits when someone 10 years your younger calls you out for making stupid comparisons and straw man tactics to try to "prove" something that cannot be proven. You attack someones character to try and prove them wrong. You get personal with almost every argument that you enter. Either you have an anger problem and aren't willing to admit it, or you're just hyper-sensitive to anybody disagreeing with you.

I don't really know what your issues are, and I don't really care, but do you ever wonder why the arguments that you get into on TA are so heated? You take it there. You're the catalyst. So I've said my peace, and I'm sure you're constructing the ultimate retort right now to try and attack me (as is your style) so if that comes, thank you for proving my point, and if it doesn't, then I'm glad you were able to control your problems for once.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Not at all, and what exactly did I lie about pray tell? And you have no tolerance for pricks who think they can talk down to you based on opinion rather than fact? Maybe you should take a look in a mirror buddy. And now that I think about it, yes, I think you have an anger problem. I think you have an anger problem because you throw little hissy fits when someone 10 years your younger calls you out for making stupid comparisons and straw man tactics to try to "prove" something that cannot be proven. You attack someones character to try and prove them wrong. You get personal with almost every argument that you enter. Either you have an anger problem and aren't willing to admit it, or you're just hyper-sensitive to anybody disagreeing with you.

Should we ask Jenny about the lies she caught you in? I'm not going to get into an arm-chair psychologist debate with you about your mock diagnoses of my "anger issues". You come out guns ablazing with these opinionated arguments, and when I do EXACTLY the same thing and present the other side, you get all haughty like "Waaahhh, you're stupid. Don't ever talk again. Clearly you know nothing", like you're some fucking sports guru. Yet you tell me I'm the one getting personal? Good god you're such a hypocrite. I'm trying to prove something that can't be proved, and you're pointedly telling me I'm stupid and know nothing if I don't put John Havlicek and John Stockton ahead of Kobe? Now THAT is comedy. I can't remember the last time I read a single post with this much projection. If I'm such a problem, why did you send me an olive branch PM trying to bury the hatchet a couple weeks ago, then try to friend me on facebook?

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I don't really know what your issues are, and I don't really care, but do you ever wonder why the arguments that you get into on TA are so heated? You take it there. You're the catalyst. So I've said my peace, and I'm sure you're constructing the ultimate retort right now to try and attack me (as is your style) so if that comes, thank you for proving my point, and if it doesn't, then I'm glad you were able to control your problems for once.

I... I thought you knew what my issues were, all knowing/all seeing srussell. Anger. Remember? You diagnosed me. Let's see- who do I get heated with on here: Nou, who is universally known as a pet-peeve personified. You, who pretty much nobody likes for all the hard talk and bullshit you started flaming about a few weeks back, classlessy ripping into Jenny for her chosen profession. And that's about it. Jay sometimes but who's skin doesn't he get under?

You're clever little crescendo line at the end is so gay... oooooh snap! Ya got me! Dude you're the king of getting into heated argument on here. I mean this when I say it's not personal- you are just a very unlikable person man. And it's kind of sad to see the effort you put in on a daily basis trying to insert yourself into every conversation and get everyone on here "to be down" with srussell. I actually thought you were turning over a new leaf when you sent the olive branch but I should have done like everyone else and just gone with my gut on you.

Stockton greater than Kobe? WOW...

Whatever...haters gonna hate. They'll pull any stupid shit argument out to discredit a great player.

The reason why Shaq got MVP throughout the first 3-peat is pretty fucking obvious. Look at his numbers. He was in his prime. Kobe was still coming into his own. But having said that: with the game on the line who handled the ball? Fucking Kobe.

Great players are defined by how they match up against their peers...how is there any argument against that? Of course players have more athleticism now than those that came before them - over time it's become embedded in the game. The game is constantly evolving. How great players are defined is not.

I think Kobe is a top 10 players in the history of the game, at this point. Top 5? No. He's not better than Jordan, Chamberlain, Magic, Kareem, or Bird...I think those would be tough to argue - but he's a leader, he's a winner, and he's a great player. Maybe he isn't as pure a player as those others mentioned, but he's raw and he brings that assassins mentality to the game....

Dallas is going to win this series.

my god this is great

ya, westbrook can suck a dick

you know...i've been a fan of westbrook for the past 2 years - i've had him on all my fantasy teams, but watching him through the playoffs here it feels like his numbers are going to his head. let durant close the games out man... for fucks sake, please. when he drove there i was begging him to kick it out. obviously wasn't going to happen

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Stop crying because you tried to suck my dick and I punched you in the jaw.

orly that's a scene from your latest wet dream or sth?

and stocktons and havliceks over kobe?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Stockton greater than Kobe? WOW... Whatever...haters gonna hate. They'll pull any stupid shit argument out to discredit a great player.

Hey buddy. According to srussell, you're just stupid if you don't think Stockton is better- end of discussion.

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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights you know...i've been a fan of westbrook for the past 2 years - i've had him on all my fantasy teams, but watching him through the playoffs here it feels like his numbers are going to his head. let durant close the games out man... for fucks sake, please. when he drove there i was begging him to kick it out. obviously wasn't going to happen

28 shots tonight... shooting about 38% or so. Sheesh.

This picture from SI.com is great

And has any of you noticed Perkins presence in the series? That trade didn't really work out neither for Boston or for OKC it seems.

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Originally posted by bananas And has any of you noticed Perkins presence in the series? That trade didn't really work out neither for Boston or for OKC it seems.

So true. He was much more important in Boston than he was in OKC. Danny Ainge laid one of the biggest eggs in Celtics history by tearing apart that team's nucleus and forcing them to work with a bunch of new moving parts down the stretch.

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