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Posted by Abhay on Jul-26-2006 19:30:

Fuck you people and ur interesting forums... I have an exam in 2 and a half hours that i haven't slept for, and still haven't finished studying for...


shit.


Posted by Purple on Jul-26-2006 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
You must be joking.
We all know this has situation has been building since Syria left Lebanon to rot with the Hizbullah aka Iranian Guard dogs, so lets put down the bong and get off our high horse for a second.
It's the Hizbullah that dragged everyone into this, that point is incontestable and they're to blame for being this upon the Lebanese people.
Why is this so hard to understand?


Hizbullah did this, Hizbullah did that, I mean what fuc did Hizbullah did?

Arresting two armed guys entering their house?


quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Usually when someone crosses the border it is legitimate enough reason to shot him, and when the person is an Army personal and not some wandering civilian/nomadic people/ tourists; than its double legitimate to shot the alien country's army guy who has infiltrated your border with weapons, and when the situation is as tense and as hostile between the countries like India/Pakistan, Israel/Lebanon, North Korea/South Korea etc than again shoting the person is not unjustified. I have given you 3 legitimate reason why Lebanon as a seperate country has the right to defend its borders/country and to shot dead any Army personal that infiltrates its borders with weapons or without weapons.

But they didnt shot the two guy dead, they arrested them.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Jul-26-2006 19:31:

cramming FTW


Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 19:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
You must be joking.
We all know this has situation has been building since Syria left Lebanon to rot with the Hizbullah aka Iranian Guard dogs, so lets put down the bong and get off our high horse for a second.
It's the Hizbullah that dragged everyone into this, that point is incontestable and they're to blame for being this upon the Lebanese people.
Why is this so hard to understand?


Agreed. That's the kind of hate speech that gets a mofo banned. Shows an infantile (at best) understanding of what's going on over there. This is about far more than *2 soldiers*.


Posted by Fir3start3r on Jul-26-2006 19:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
Fuck you people and ur interesting forums... I have an exam in 2 and a half hours that i haven't slept for, and still haven't finished studying for...


shit.


LOL!
Get crackin'!


Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 19:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Hizbullah did this, Hizbullah did that, I mean what fuc did Hizbullah did?

Arresting two armed guys entering their house?


Try to keep up--this was posted on a prior page.

Among many other things--most recently:

quote:
Two weeks ago with no provocation Hezbollah opened fire, killed eight soldiers, abducted another two and Israel is expected to negotiate for their release.


And after Israel forcefully evacuated settlers from Gaza.

Radical Islam...the religion of peace. Provided you are not Jewish.

Why not tell us what the Jews did to Hizbollah to cause them to want to wipe Israel off the map. If Israel was located on the North Pole the story would be the same--Radical Jihadist Muslims would still want them wiped off the map. It is their fucked up belief that the Jewish race should be eradicated. What tolerance!


Posted by Purple on Jul-26-2006 19:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka

This is about far more than *2 soldiers*.


What is it about? Did Hizbullah killed any Israile before? Did they blew themselves in Israel? Did they fired rockets into Israeli terretory before? Did they threw stones on them? What they did before Israeli invasion?

And nothing warrants this destruction of Lebanon unless Hizbullah did a Beslan in Israel.


Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 19:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
What is it about? Did Hizbullah killed any Israile before?


YES.

quote:
Did they blew themselves in Israel?


YES.

quote:
Did they fired rockets into Israeli terretory before?


YES.

quote:
Did they threw stones on them? What they did before Israeli invasion?


So to speak, YES.

Their tactics are to try to kill innocent civilians. They launch rockets into Israel aiming at anything they can to inflict maximum damage. They hide among their own women and children so that when Israel tries to hit strategic targets with precision guided munitions there are still unfortunate casualties of innocent civilians, but Hezbollah is as much to blame for their cowardly tactics resulting in loss of innocent life as Israel is for trying to hit strategic targets like highways and airports as opposed to randomly targeting masses of civilians in an attempt to inflict maximum damage.


Posted by Flotser on Jul-26-2006 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Ya this war has shown the world real jews and how they are. How selfish and disrespectful this community is towards others. For 2 of their own they will kill 200 others. Maybe thats why they were sent to concentration camps at first place.


WTF???

first of all you should get a ban for this post.

second, your horrible, evil and fraudulent words don't deserve a serius comment.

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
What is it about? Did Hizbullah killed any Israile before? Did they blew themselves in Israel? Did they fired rockets into Israeli terretory before? Did they threw stones on them? What they did before Israeli invasion?


and ... thank you for this post - that may spread some light on the "facts " that appear in your posts.

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quote:
Originally posted by Abhay

hmmmm, well, i'm leaning more on the "using hezbollah as an excuse to attack lebanon" side.


An excuse to attack Lebanon?? Why the hell would Israel "plan" to attack one of the most 'western' arab countries? Lebanon have just kicked Syria out and even during these last 2 weeks of war the Lebaneese goverment itself blamed Hizbulla for what is happening now.

Maybe you forget that Israel signed piece with Egypt and Jordan and retured Sinai. If there was no Hizbulla and no Syiran control over Lebanon, long time ago a piece would have been signed between Israel & Lebanon. You also forget that Israel is a 100% western democracy, and as such it never had and never will be able engage a war for occupation purposes.


quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
It doesn't bother me that ISrael get's pissed off and retaliates, but i don't see what the hell Lebanon has to do with anything.


You agree that Israel should retaliate... but how can israel do it exatcly without attacking inside the Lebaneese terretory? Hizbulla actually controls all south of Lebanon, many villiges are inhebitaed with Hizbulla members and supporters. Hizbulla also controls the southern neighbrhood in Beirut, and to attack hizbulla israel must also attack the Hizbullaa fortress in south Beirut where Nasralla himself lives.

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
I don't really see hezbollah as an entity of the Lebanese government.


Even though the Hizbulla has one minister in the current goverment, and has 23 seats (out of about 140) in the Lebaneese parliment...
I also believe that the the majority of goverment in Lebanon doesn't see Hizbulla as a major part of the goverment, and want hizbulla to be disarmed, but they are afraid of a civil war so they do nothing about it (and breach the U.N. security council desicion no. 1559).

Anyway, Israel didn't attack goverment facilities and offices, the Lebaneese army, and cities and neighbours in Beirut that have no relation to Hizbulla, except:
some seaports and the airport that all these years was used to supply Hizbulla with rockets and weapons from Syria & Iran and could have been used by Hizbulla two weeks ago to fly away with the kidnapped soldiers. Lebaneese army radars were destroyed in the seaport base where they were used by Hizbulla to fire the iranian C-802 reckets on the Israeli army ship.

You must not forget that Hizbulla militants are brainwashed with fanatic fundementalistic beliefs. They truly believe with their hearts that it is a commandment to wear an explosives belt and blow themselves up inside a bus. That is the main problem and you just can't avoid it and just see Hizbulla as 'resistanse' group


Posted by Purple on Jul-26-2006 20:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
YES.



YES.



YES.



So to speak, YES.

Their tactics are to try to kill innocent civilians. They launch rockets into Israel aiming at anything they can to inflict maximum damage. They hide among their own women and children so that when Israel tries to hit strategic targets with precision guided munitions there are still unfortunate casualties of innocent civilians, but Hezbollah is as much to blame for their cowardly tactics resulting in loss of innocent life as Israel is for trying to hit strategic targets like highways and airports as opposed to randomly targeting masses of civilians in an attempt to inflict maximum damage.


I dont find anything. Must be year 1994. Which year was it? Can you link me some terrorist incident in year 2006 caused by Hezbollah in Israel and before the Israeli invasion?

quote:

Hezbollah has denounced acts of terror, such as the September 11 attacks, GIA massacres in Algeria, Armed Islamic Group attacks on tourists in Egypt, and the murder of Nick Berg. However, it expresses support and sympathy for the activities of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Islamist groups responsible for suicide attacks and armed resistance in Israel and the Palestinian territories.


Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 20:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple Hezbollah has denounced acts of terror, such as the September 11 attacks, GIA massacres in Algeria, Armed Islamic Group attacks on tourists in Egypt, and the murder of Nick Berg. However, it expresses support and sympathy for the activities of Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Islamist groups responsible for suicide attacks and armed resistance in Israel and the Palestinian territories.


Yeah, that was a nice public face. Did you not see them dancing in the streets on 9/11? It goes back a lot further than 1994.


Posted by Haunted on Jul-26-2006 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Why not tell us what the Jews did to Hizbollah to cause them to want to wipe Israel off the map. If Israel was located on the North Pole the story would be the same--Radical Jihadist Muslims would still want them wiped off the map. It is their fucked up belief that the Jewish race should be eradicated. What tolerance!


exactly. this is what most people fail to realize, they look at whats happening now and see "oh wow israel really is over reacting, look at all those deaths" but they fail to look at the big picture. Israel is fighting for its survival, and always has been.


Posted by Purple on Jul-26-2006 20:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Yeah, that was a nice public face. Did you not see them dancing in the streets on 9/11? It goes back a lot further than 1994.


Any link of recent killing please? Most recent before invasion?


Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Any link of recent killing please? Most recent before invasion?


Sure, here's some fodder. Try reading a newspaper once in a while.


LA Times

quote:
Israel: One Nation Under Attack
In 1982, many Israelis protested their military's involvement in Lebanon. This time they're united.
By Michael B. Oren
July 26, 2006

IN 1982, FOLLOWING the massacre of 800 Palestinian civilians in Beirut, about 500,000 Israelis took to the streets.

Although the Palestinians had been killed by a Christian militia and not by Israeli troops, the demonstrators demanded the ouster of Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, who had sent the militiamen into the Sabra and Chatilla refugee camps.

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The protesters were also furious about a war that was intended not, as the government originally claimed, to defend northern Israel from Palestinian rockets but to alter the balance of power in Lebanon, a goal they considered optional. As a result of the rally, Sharon was forced to resign.

Twenty-four years later, the Israel Defense Forces are back in Lebanon, occupying swaths of the south and bombing Beirut. Hundreds of Lebanese civilians have been killed � by Israelis, not by their proxies � and immense damage caused. Much of the world and the media are as critical of Israel's conduct in this war as they were in the previous one, insisting that the Israeli attacks have been "disproportionate."

Yet, in contrast to 1982, Israelis today are overwhelmingly supporting their army's actions. And apart from expressing regret over the loss of civilian lives, they show no sign of wavering. Israeli flags and banners proclaiming "Be of Strength and Courage!" (a biblical quote) literally line the streets.

Why? What makes this Lebanon war different from the last one?

To begin with, Israelis, too, are under fire this time. During the last few weeks, Hezbollah has shot more than 2,500 rockets and mortars at Israel, killing at least 17 civilians, wounding 500 and forcing more than half a million people to flee. The attacks from Lebanon coincided with aggression from Gaza, where Hamas terrorists fired about 1,000 Kassam rockets at Israeli towns and farms.

On both fronts, Israeli soldiers were the victims of unprovoked ambushes and kidnappings. And these attacks have come despite the fact that Israel is no longer occupying any part of either Lebanon or Gaza. The war, Israelis now know, is not about borders but about the existence of the Jewish state.

Israelis also know that Hezbollah cares nothing about civilian casualties on either side. On the contrary, Hezbollah wants Israel to cause the maximum amount of collateral damage among Lebanese in order to expose Israel to international condemnation. That's why Hezbollah missile launchers are routinely deployed in civilian neighborhoods.


As a rule, Israeli forces warn Lebanese civilians to leave the battle areas, but eventually they have no option but to destroy these structures or risk losing more Israeli lives to the rockets fired at them. The Israeli air force must also knock out the roads, runways and bridges that Hezbollah uses to replenish its arsenal.

More pressing than the need to defend Israel's heartland, however, is the need to protect Lebanon from Syria and Iran. Counterintuitive though it sounds, Israelis understand that the only way to save Lebanon is by bombing it.

After languishing for years under Syrian occupation, Lebanon has been hijacked by the Syrian-supplied and Iranian-directed Hezbollah. The Lebanese government and army are powerless to control this force, much less disarm it. Hezbollah's burgeoning power not only permits Syria to continue its occupation of the country but, more perilously, it enables Iran to realize its dream of establishing an unbroken arc of Shiite militancy from the Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf.

An Iranian takeover of Lebanon not only threatens Israel's security but also that of moderate Sunni states throughout the region, and it endangers Europeans and Americans.

In mounting its counteroffensive against Hamas and Hezbollah, Israel is drawing a line in the sand against the Iranian leaders who have sworn to wipe it off the map and who, for that purpose, are developing nuclear power.

Israel's purpose is not retribution but survival.

In 1982, Israel's objective was to install a pro-Israeli government in Beirut. But its goal today is to prevent Lebanon from becoming a fully armed outpost of Iran.

Needed to help accomplish that is a robust international force to secure Lebanon's borders from all foreign encroachments, disarm all illegal militias and establish the sovereignty of the democratically elected government in Beirut.

Sharon, who eventually returned to politics and became the first Israeli prime minister to recognize the Palestinians' right to statehood and to uproot Israeli settlements, now lies in a coma. He leaves behind a legacy of one Lebanon war that most Israelis opposed � but also a sense of sobriety and resolve that has persuaded Israelis to support this Lebanon war and steeled their determination to win.


Link 2

quote:
...In the context of the present Lebanon fighting,[b] Hezbollah does not deny that the kidnapping of the Israel soldiers on July 12th was deliberate, premeditated and approved by the Hezbollah command. The attack was on an Israeli patrol in territory that is undisputed Israel territory. It was accompanied by a barrage of rocket attacks aimed against both military and civilian targets in Northern Israel. It followed a series of earlier Hezbollah attacks and attempts at kidnapping soldiers. It would clearly appear to have been an armed attack.

[5] Since the first Hezbollah barrage on the 12th of July, more than a thousand rockets have hit Northern Israel including the Israeli major town and port of Haifa. This is an armed conflict by any measure. In such an armed conflict it is legitimate for Israel to attempt to deal a critical blow to the military capabilities of Hezbollah. It has been said about Israel �it is a dangerous State; when attacked, it defends itself�. Military actions by Israel are, of course, subject to the limitations set out in the laws of armed conflict....


Posted by Purple on Jul-26-2006 21:38:

This is not what I asked for.

quote:
To begin with, Israelis, too, are under fire this time. During the last few weeks, Hezbollah has shot more than 2,500 rockets and mortars at Israel, killing at least 17 civilians, wounding 500 and forcing more than half a million people to flee. The attacks from Lebanon coincided with aggression from Gaza, where Hamas terrorists fired about 1,000 Kassam rockets at Israeli towns and farms.



These are after the invasion, I am asking for any terrorist incident before the arrest and invasion of Lebanon.

This is an article decribing the war, what you expect country's army people to do once you invade it? Spread flowers for your welcome?

I am asking for a link to most recent terrorist act commited by Hizbollah. Eg: Hizbollah members blowing themselves up in cafeteria, shopping mall etc.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Jul-26-2006 22:16:




quote:
Red Cross ambulances destroyed in Israeli air strike on rescue mission

Volunteer paramedics demand UN guarantees
Flags and lights prove no protection for aid teams

Suzanne Goldenberg in Tyre
Tuesday July 25, 2006
The Guardian



Coffins are prepared for mass burial in the Lebanese city of Tyre. Photograph: Nasser Nasser/AP

The ambulance headlamps were on, the blue light overhead was flashing, and another light illuminated the Red Cross flag when the first Israeli missile hit, shearing off the right leg of the man on the stretcher inside. As he lay screaming beneath fire and smoke, patients and ambulance workers scrambled for safety, crawling over glass in the dark. Then another missile hit the second ambulance.Even in a war which has turned the roads of south Lebanon into killing zones, Israel's rocket strike on two clearly marked Red Cross ambulances on Sunday night set a deadly new milestone.
Six ambulance workers were wounded and three generations of the Fawaz family, being transported to hospital from Tibnin with what were originally minor injuries, were left fighting for their lives. Two ambulances were entirely destroyed, their roofs pierced by missiles.
The Lebanese Red Cross, whose ambulance service for south Lebanon is run entirely by volunteers, immediately announced it would cease all rescue missions unless Israel guaranteed their safety through the United Nations or the International Red Cross.
For the villages below the Litani river, the ambulances were their last link to the outside world. Yesterday, that too was gone, leaving the 100,000 people of Tyre district with no way of reaching hospital other than to take to the roads themselves, under the roar of Israeli war planes.
The fateful call to the Red Cross operations room came through at about 10pm - well after dark, a time when almost no Lebanese now dare venture out.
At the Red Cross office in Tyre, three volunteer medics dressed in their orange overalls, and got into their ambulance. The plan was to drive halfway, meet the local ambulance, and transfer the three patients to their vehicle to return to Tyre.
By Nader Joudi's reckoning, the ambulances had been stopped for barely two minutes. Two patients had been loaded: Ahmed Mustafa Fawaz, who had been hit by shrapnel in the stomach, and his son, Mohammed, 14. The volunteer attendant was just easing Jamila Fawaz, 80, inside and setting up a drip when the missile struck. He managed to get the old woman and the child outside, but there was no way to reach Mr Fawaz. "It was horrible," Mr Joudi said. "He was screaming, and we couldn't do anything."
One of the members of the three-man crew from Tibnin radioed for help when another missile plunged through the roof. Ambulance crew and patients retreated to the cellar of a nearby building, then waited to be rescued, trying as best as they could to help the injured. "Each of us treated ourselves. There was no light," said Kassem Shaalan, a medic from Tyre.
By the time patients and ambulance crew reached Tyre, Mr Fawaz was unconscious after losing one leg, and suffering severe fractures to the other. His son had lost part of a foot, and his mother's body was riddled with shrapnel. Mr Joudi had shrapnel wounds in his left arm, and Mr Shaalan cuts to the face and leg.
He was adamant that the ambulances, with their Red Cross insignia on the roof, were clearly visible from the air. "I don't think there can be a mistake in two bombings of two ambulances," he said.
Although the air strike marked the first time ambulances have been hit by Israel in this war, for Mr Shaalan and the other Red Cross volunteers it was only a matter of time. After two weeks of strikes designed to choke off possible supply lines to Hizbullah guerrillas, travel to many villages was just too dangerous. Coastal villages even within a few kilometers of Tyre are cut off. In some, corpses remain trapped in the rubble for days.
But nothing is more perilous than travelling by night, and no more so than just before midnight that Sunday when another Red Cross crew set off from Tyre to pick up their injured colleagues.
"I was trembling," said Ali Deeb, one of the volunteers on the mission. "It was too dangerous, and helicopters buzzing, and all through this, I am thinking one thing: the ambulance that left half an hour before you has already been injured, and you could be next." Later yesterday afternoon, two missiles landed in the building across the road from the Red Cross office.


The toll
Lebanese
Yesterday
Civilian deaths 8
Hizbullah deaths 0
Since outbreak
Military deaths 66
Civilian deaths 377
Wounded 1,550+

Israeli
Yesterday
Civilian deaths 0
Military deaths 4
Since outbreak
Military deaths 24
Civilian deaths 17
Wounded 360+




quote:
Disaster averted: UAV fires at IDF, IAF halts fire
Yaakov Katz, THE JERUSALEM POST Jul. 25, 2006
The IAF revealed on Tuesday that it had prevented a severe disaster on the previous day when it had halted the fire that a UAV was shooting at Israeli troops.
A senior Air Force officer said that the UAV opened fire on ground troops operating in Bint Jbeil after receiving the coordinates from the Golani Brigade. The fire was stopped when the IAF realized the mistake.
No one was wounded in the incident.

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Posted by Purple on Jul-26-2006 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
i dont recall you all bitching this hard after the US annhialated two countries after 9/11......... lets not even get into the body count from afganistan or iraq......

i was oposed to the US reaciton to 9/11 as well, and so were alot of other people, but after a couple months of war, people seemed to stop protesting it... the Israelis are just taking an american style approach to this.


I had nothing but respect for Israel and its people one month back. Part of it because of famous 7 days war and part of it because of one argument I heard from one lady on a news channel. Link was posted here by someone. But this war has really shown the coward/selfish faces hidden behind them.

After seeing all this pointless destruction of lives, how they are bleeding Lebanon with full force, I dont have any respect towards this country. Specially towards the people of this country.

What amazes me most is how whole country and its people is supporting this cold blooded murder and violence. Even when US raped Iraq, Afganistan; there were people in US, US citizens protesting over it. But I doubt there is one protest on streets of Israel. Jews united as one to acheive one goal, kill 200 others for 2 of us.

I wonder if the Israeli family of the two arrested by Lebanon army still think its fair for Lebanon to return them alive.


Posted by psychosomatica on Jul-26-2006 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Only in your wet dreams! lol


Actually.. I don't think it's that inconceivable. If Washington walks away, they're pretty much screwed. I believe the American people understood more about their relationship with Israel, there might be a public backlash. I'm not talking about Israel's contentious actions either. Israel gets about 3B usd of aid per year from the US (no strings attached, a condition which does not exist in any other aid agreement). I think it's been estimated that Israel has received 140B from the US since its inception. As a practical godless citizen, I would ask myself why my government gives $10 of my money to these guys I don't even know. Now, of course, there are those who are considered part of the 'Israel Lobby' or whatever you want to call it. But many of these are politicians which would have to change their stance if the perception of the American public changed (which I don't believe is too far away given the amount of information available today). All those vetoes and money would disappear in a flash.

The argument that Israel is the ally of the United States blah blah blah spreading democracy... all makes no sense. They're not even there to spread the American agenda. They can't do anything for America... unlike say China.. or Pakistan or India. And remember, this is ALL from a practical point of view.. no religious, political or economic biases.


Posted by ogvh5150 on Jul-26-2006 22:41:

quote:
U.N.: Observers made many calls before strike
Annan, China condemn attack that killed 4


BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- The U.N. observers killed when an Israeli bomb hit their bunker in Lebanon Tuesday called an Israeli military liaison about 10 times in the six hours before they died to warn that aerial attacks were getting close to their position, a U.N. officer said.

After each call, the Israeli officer promised to have the bombing stopped, an officer at the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) base in Noqoura said.
Finally, an Israeli bomb exploded directly on the U.N. post near Khiyam, killing four U.N. observers from Austria, Finland, Canada and China, the U.N. officer said.
As of Wednesday morning, three of the four bodies had been recovered from the rubble, an officer at the UNIFIL base in Noqoura said.
Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said the incident would be "thoroughly investigated" and that the Israeli military had taken measures since the start of its bombardment of southern Lebanon to protect the U.N. observers there.
"Israel would never deliberately target U.N. personnel," Mark Regev said.
According to Regev, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called U.N.Secretary-General Kofi Annan and "expressed his regret at this tragedy in Lebanon."
Annan issued a sharply worded statement Tuesday evening which said he was "shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting ... of a U.N. observer post in southern Lebanon." He called on Israel to conduct "a full investigation into this very disturbing incident."
"This coordinated artillery and aerial attack on a long established and clearly marked U.N. post at Khiyam occurred despite personal assurances given to me by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would be spared Israeli fire," Annan said.
"Furthermore, General Alain Pelligrini, the U.N. force commander in south Lebanon, had been in repeated contact with Israeli officers throughout the day on Tuesday, stressing the need to protect that particular U.N. position from attack."
The timeline provided CNN by a U.N. officer in Lebanon showed the first bomb exploded about 200 yards from the U.N. outpost at 1:20 p.m. Tuesday, prompting the first call by the UNIFIL observers to their designated contact with the Israeli military. The officer said they were assured by the Israeli liaison that he would stop the attacks.
A series of about nine more bombs hit within 100 to 400 yards from the observers over the next several hours, with a call to the Israeli military following each explosion.
The U.N. base at Noqoura lost contact with the outpost at 7:40 p.m., apparently the time of the direct hit, the officer said.
China issued a strong condemnation of the Israeli airstrike, according to a statement posted on the Chinese Foreign Ministry Web site Wednesday.
"China urges the concerned sides, especially Israel, to take tangible measures to ensure the security of UN peacekeepers," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao.
China's state-run news agency -- Xinhau -- said Chinese Assistant Foreign Minister Zhai Jun called in Israeli Ambassador Yehoyada Haim Wednesday morning to discuss the attack.
"China strongly condemns the activity to raid the UN peacekeeping post and urge Israel to carry out thorough investigation and apologize to China and the victim's families and coordinate with China to deal with the aftermath," Xinhau quoted Zhao as telling the Israeli ambassador.
Xinhua said the Chinese observer killed was Du Zhaoyu.
Journalist Anthony Mills in Beruit contributed to this report.




Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/m...deast.observers


quote:

Israel troops 'ignored' UN plea
The UN deaths have provoked an international outcry
The UN post

UN peacekeepers in south Lebanon contacted Israeli troops 10 times before an Israeli bomb killed four of them, an initial UN report says. The post was hit by a precision-guided missile after six hours of shelling, diplomats familiar with the probe say.
UN-led crisis talks in Rome ended with no agreement to urge an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.
Eight Israeli soldiers have died in ongoing clashes - the biggest loss in one incident since the conflict began.
Twenty-two soldiers were injured as Israeli troops tried to gain control of the town of Bint Jbeil, a strategically located Hezbollah stronghold.
An Israeli officer died in a separate clash later.


And a massive explosion destroyed a several-storey building in the centre of Tyre housing the offices of a top Hezbollah commander.
He was not there at the time.
A senior Israel army general said he expected the fighting would continue for "several more weeks".
More than 400 Lebanese and 42 Israelis have died in two weeks of conflict, which began after Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid on 12 July.
In other developments:


  • Hezbollah fired more than 100 rockets into Israel, injuring 31 people, security and medical sources say
  • A Jordanian military plane arrived in Beirut to evacuate some of the most seriously wounded Lebanese civilians
  • Ten lorries loaded with food and medical supplies arrived in the southern town of Tyre from the capital, Beirut
  • Hezbollah's leader Hassan Nasrallah warned on TV that his organisation would begin firing rockets further south into Israel than Haifa
  • More than 300 people - mainly US and Australian citizens - who had been caught in the fighting in southern Lebanon are due to leave from Tyre on a Canadian ferry on Wednesday evening


Israeli regrets
The four unarmed UN observers from Austria, Canada, China and Finland, died after their UN post in the town of Khiam was hit by an Israeli air strike on Tuesday.

I cannot believe the level of force with which Israel has decided to retaliate in Lebanon
Glen, Edinburgh
The UN report says each time the UN contacted Israeli forces, they were assured the firing would stop. A senior Irish soldier working for the UN forces had warned the Israelis six times that their bombardment was endangering the lives of UN staff, Ireland's foreign ministry said.
Had Israel responded to the requests, "rather than deliberately ignoring them", the observers would still be alive, a diplomat familiar with the report said.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has expressed "deep regrets" over the deaths.
Israel is conducting an investigation into the incident.
It has rejected accusations made by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan that the targeting of the UN position was "apparently deliberate".
White House spokesman Tony Snow said "something went really wrong" to cause the deaths, but also said there was no reason to suggest the bombing was deliberate.
The UN Security Council is meeting to discuss the incident.
'Utmost urgency'
The Rome summit, called by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, brought together EU and Arab nations plus the US and Russia, but not Israel, Iran or Syria.

The conference released a declaration expressing "determination to work immediately to reach with utmost urgency a ceasefire to put an end to the current hostilities". It also said a ceasefire "must be lasting, permanent and sustainable".
The statement called for an international force with a UN mandate for south Lebanon, and the full implementation of existing UN Security Council resolutions calling for the disarming of militias and deployment of Lebanese troops in the border region.
Mr Annan said it was important to work with the countries of the region, including Syria and Iran, to find a solution to the crisis.
But Condoleezza Rice was critical of the role of both countries.
"It's not a question of talking to Syria, it's whether Syria's prepared to act," she said.
In an impassioned speech, Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora warned that more people would die if the ceasefire was delayed, and called for a Lebanese-Israeli prisoner exchange as part of plan to end the fighting.
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Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 22:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
This is not what I asked for.




These are after the invasion, I am asking for any terrorist incident before the arrest and invasion of Lebanon.

This is an article decribing the war, what you expect country's army people to do once you invade it? Spread flowers for your welcome?

I am asking for a link to most recent terrorist act commited by Hizbollah. Eg: Hizbollah members blowing themselves up in cafeteria, shopping mall etc.


It is virtually unaniumously acknowledged that Hezbollah instigated this. What is your point? Do you want to argue the stance of proportionality? The argument there is that Israel has been shunned, persecuted and attacked for decades. Hezbollah is nothing more than a state sponsored terrorist organization. Their ultimate elimination will be a boon for the entire world. Israel does not intend to leave the job unfinished this time as it would only leave open the door for Hezbollah to regroup and instigate another day.


Posted by jonSun on Jul-26-2006 23:01:

Every1 on the Jew side is saying Hezbollah Hezbollah . But wasnt Hezbollah started as a reaction to Israel invading their country.?? Fuck its like the people here in America bitching abt terrorism in Iraq. What the fuck do u expect, we invaded thier country. If any country did infact invade america, i would expect there to be more terrorism against the invader then ever seen b4 by americans defending thier land. I know if some foreign country invaded america i would do whatever i could to get them out.


Posted by Shakka on Jul-26-2006 23:50:

The history is long. Go read an encyclopedia. This didn't just start on July 12.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel


Posted by BiG-_BoSS on Jul-26-2006 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
The history is long. Go read an encyclopedia. This didn't just start on July 12.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Yes, this happened when the Jews lost the war thousands of years ago and they can't let it go. They lost the war and they haven't forgotten for the love of god doesn't their god teach them that anything about forgiving and love? Just imagine how long the Jews will remember the concentration camps for? can anybody say until the human species ends?


Posted by jonSun on Jul-27-2006 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
The history is long. Go read an encyclopedia. This didn't just start on July 12.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel


Ya no shit its been going on for abt forever, but why escalate it & invade countries. Then on top of it even try to colonize those countries to annex them. Its asking for trouble. Just like the U.S. asked for trouble with Iraq.


Posted by Q5echo on Jul-27-2006 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
Used without permission for non-commercial educational use only. All rights reserved.

quote:
Wednesday, July 26, 2006
Canadian killed from UN force complained his position shielding Hizbullah

Canadian killed from UN force complained his position shielding Hizbullah
Dr. Aaron Lerner Date: 26 July 2006

"...the tragic loss of a soldier yesterday who I happen to know and I think
probably is from my Regiment. We've received e-mails from him a few days ago
and he described the fact that he was taking within - in one case - three
meters of his position "for tactical necessity - not being targeted". Now
that's veiled speech in the military and what he was telling us was
Hizbullah fighters were all over his position and the IDF were (sic)
targeting them and that's a favorite trick by people who don't have
representation in the UN. They use the UN as shields knowing that they
can't be punished for it."

Retired Canadian Major General Lewis MacKenzie interviewed on CBC Toronto
radio 26 July 2006
For recording:
http://cbc.ca/metromorning/media/20060726LMCJUL26.ram

Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review & Analysis)
(Mail POB 982 Kfar Sava)
Tel 972-9-7604719/Fax 972-3-7255730
INTERNET ADDRESS: [email protected]
Website: http://www.imra.org.il

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