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Posted by Porky on Jun-02-2007 05:08:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
WTF... BILL WENNINGTON...... LUC LONGLEY!!!



zydrunas ilgauskas... even though he's balding and oogily, is way better than either of the above imposters!


Posted by Porky on Jun-02-2007 05:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
For me:

Duncan
Nash
Kobe
Wade
Shaq





Duncan
DirkDiggler
Lebron
Kobe
Nash


Posted by Porky on Jun-02-2007 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
i'm curious buttahs... you mean top 5 all-time... or top 5 current nba players... if so, who are your top 5 current?


he meant top5 of alltime

lebron definitely belongs in the top5 current


Posted by Member of X on Jun-02-2007 06:43:

1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. Duncan
4. Nash
5. Wade
6. Dirk (this years playoffs left a sour taste in my mouth)

Kobe is a better defensive player although he used to be better. And Lebron coasted for half the season. Kobe never coasts. I think Lebron can be better than Kobe soon though if he continues the brilliance he showed last night. Duncan is the best winner but I wouldn't put him ahead of the other two in terms of talent/skills. It's just that dominant big men can control a game during the playoffs much easier than wing guys. Unless you're Lebron going bananas. The upper tier is reserved for the Michael Jordan's of the world and it's a small list. But think of how many championships besides Michael were won without a dominant big man? Shaq check. Hakeem check. Duncan check. Jabbar check.

And everyone knows how much I hate Kobe. I don't let personal feelings get in the way of the brain.


Posted by King Ecnal on Jun-02-2007 08:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
I don't let personal feelings get in the way of the brain.


nor do I... so I go:

1.) Lebron
2.) Kobe
3.) Dirk
4.) Duncan
5.) ARENAS and KG - can't decide

yeah... NO NASH!


Posted by Viber on Jun-02-2007 11:17:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
um, it was the fucking BULLS?!?!?!?!?!?!

his teams were always mediocre, at best. Yes, he had Pippen, but Pippen was only good because of Jordan, and even then, he was just above average. Nobody else on those early teams was any good.


Pippen stats on a random year:

MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG

38.3 .491 .320 .660 2.40 6.30 8.70 5.6 2.93 .81 3.22 3.20 22.0

Lebron's Career stats:


MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG

41.3 .463 .327 .733 1.2 5.5 6.7 6.4 1.76 .70 3.31 2.00 26.7



yes there is a diffrence in points but back then the league was more defensive, Lebron is playing more minutes per game,he is the 1st offensive option in the team and when you add to that Scottie's defensive value in those years you almost get a tie when you compare those two.


Ive said it once and ill say it again: without pippen Jordan's only ring will be his wedding ring.


Posted by Kapedano on Jun-02-2007 19:25:

Shaq is the best center, because all the other centers are sucky. Duncan, by far the best PF, Kobe is a no brainier. Wade was though, but he has a ring. Nash, well he is the best PG. Thats all he will be, unless he wins something, but it seems like Duncan is taking everyones rings.


Posted by verndogs on Jun-02-2007 21:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
Shaq is the best center, because all the other centers are sucky.



That doesn't mean he's in the current top 5 best players.


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2007 03:42:

David Stern is now the happiest man in the world.

From a Pistonzzzzzzz Spurzzzzz finalzzzzzzzzz to having the most appealing, well-known player in the league playing.


Posted by Kapedano on Jun-03-2007 03:47:

quote:
Originally posted by inconspicuous
David Stern is now the happiest man in the world.

From a Pistonzzzzzzz Spurzzzzz finalzzzzzzzzz to having the most appealing, well-known player in the league playing.


you mean duncan right!


oh yeah. I cant wait to see Bruce Bowen make Lebron suffer!


Posted by Porky on Jun-03-2007 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan

oh yeah. I cant wait to see Bruce Bowen make Lebron suffer!



it's gonna be the other way around. how can bowen contain a 6'8" 250lb beast?


Posted by Porky on Jun-03-2007 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Viber
Pippen stats on a random year:

MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG

38.3 .491 .320 .660 2.40 6.30 8.70 5.6 2.93 .81 3.22 3.20 22.0

Lebron's Career stats:


MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG

41.3 .463 .327 .733 1.2 5.5 6.7 6.4 1.76 .70 3.31 2.00 26.7



yes there is a diffrence in points but back then the league was more defensive, Lebron is playing more minutes per game,he is the 1st offensive option in the team and when you add to that Scottie's defensive value in those years you almost get a tie when you compare those two.


Ive said it once and ill say it again: without pippen Jordan's only ring will be his wedding ring.


pippen is the ultimate 2nd banana. he can completely dominate a game without scoring a single point. i remember in the 98 eastern finals against the pacers, pippen's defense on mark jackson completely disrupted the pacer's offense. it was so beautiful just watching pip's defense.


Posted by Kapedano on Jun-03-2007 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
it's gonna be the other way around. how can bowen contain a 6'8" 250lb beast?


Well, we know he cant stop him, but he sure will do a good job at limiting him to make him pass the ball.

I really dont think the Cavs have any chance at all, I might be wrong.


Posted by Porky on Jun-03-2007 18:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
I really dont think the Cavs have any chance at all, I might be wrong.



spurs in 6. their team is too complete. whereas the cavs have the best player but too many role players who do not perform their roles regularly.


Posted by shaw on Jun-03-2007 19:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Porky
spurs in 6. their team is too complete. whereas the cavs have the best player but too many role players who do not perform their roles regularly.


it's not a season--all they've gotta do is step up 4 times, at the absolute most.

I think the Spurs will win, but I sure as hell don't want them to.


Posted by Member of X on Jun-03-2007 19:24:

Spurzzz in 5 at the most. I was thinking sweep originally but I think Lebron can muster one dominant game. I hope I'm wrong too but that's very wishful thinking.

Go away Spurzzz please! 4 championships will be enough!


Posted by Kapedano on Jun-03-2007 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X


Go away Spurzzz please! 4 championships will be enough!




Posted by King Ecnal on Jun-04-2007 22:45:

I got what I needed:

LEBRON > JORDAN!

did MJ get to finals at 22?


didn't think so!


Posted by shaw on Jun-04-2007 23:33:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
LEBRON > JORDAN!


yeah, if they played now.


Posted by Kapedano on Jun-05-2007 00:22:

Well, lets wait and see how many championships Lebron wins before we call him the next Jordan. You guys should stop and think the words before you make any comparisons.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jun-05-2007 02:17:

# my top current 5 (in order, starting with the best):


* tim duncan

    (he has 3 rings(4 in a couple of weeks). the "laker" dynasty with o'neal and kobe has 3, so no doubt he should be one of the best. although he struggles at the line sometimes, but his strengths cover up his weaknesses. he is a pure winner. doesn't need to show the flashy stats, but he can motivate his team to win, and that's all that counts.)


* lebron james

    (he's proved a good number of times during the detroit series that when the chips are at stake, he will step up.)


* kobe bryant

    (because of bron's game 5 and game 6 performances, bron is now 2nd in my book, and kobe is 3rd. bron showed he can win the game with and without the ball in his hands. kobe only has proved he can win games with the ball in his hands)


* dirk nowitzki

    (dallas' early exit this year, and how they lost in the finals last year really has me questioned about his leadership skills)


* dwayne wade

    (yeah they couldn't make it past the first round this year, but as much as i regret saying he has 1 finals ring(tainted), i guess i should acknowledge the fact he does have one. he plays smart, ferocious defense for a point guard, has really improved his shooting range (came out of marquette with questionable range), and shows good leadership skills.)



i am going to leave 2 time MVP Steve nash out of my 5, because he still hasn't reached the finals yet, after all those good years with dallas and phoenix. we can blame coaching? role players? injuries? a better opposition? but i think he has ran out of excuses, and should have reached at least 1 finals during his peak stretch.

#we are on the verge of transitioning out of the current nba "decade", and moving to a new group. my up and coming top 5 that will make a huge impact within the next 3 years (will make it/win the Finals):


* Lebron James and the Cavs
* the young crew of the Portland Trail Blazers

    (yup Juice. I am going to jump on their bandwagon. i don't think this will be the year, but next year 2008, they will make a strong push for the finals. Roy - Jack - Aldrirdge - Oden(possibly??) - maybe Randolph, seeing if he stays, as their starting lineup, with an up and coming player Sergio Rodriguez and Juan Dixon in the bench, this is a pretty good team. hopefully portland can take advantage of the free agency market this year or next year, and maybe trade Randolph for some good value, and they're set.)


* Carlos Boozer, Deron Williams, and the Jazz

    (as long as they can keep this lineup + get a solid shooting guard with range, they have a good chance)


* Emeka Okafor and the Bobcats

    (laugh at this, but I have a strong feeling maybe this year, or 2009 they will make a huge impact, and a strong push in the Eastern Conference playoffs)


* Chris Paul, David West, and the Hornets


# Finals Prediction: Spurs in 5. I give Lebron 1 at home.

# Bron vs MJ ?
No doubt MJ. Bron has many steps to get to MJ's first steps before we can claim Bron as one of "the best ever", rather than "the best currently". If MJ wanted to say the truth, he could note at least a dozen holes in Bron's game.

as for Billy Donovan and the Magic, i feel sorry for the state of Florida right now. Nick Saban? Pat Riley? Tedd Ginn? now this?


Posted by Orko on Jun-05-2007 02:25:

On a related note, I just watched the top ten plays (NBA Video Vault) from each of Jordan's last three championships.

That man worked his but off for those rings.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jun-07-2007 03:49:

oh boy is this frightening news. i knew a big letdown like this was going to happen for Kevin Durant.

story here

face it. i said it in the beginning when college basketball season ended, and i am going to say it again. kevin durant is too small for the nba, and will be manhandled by "the big boys". shockingly enough it was the Seattle Times that reported this, being that Seattle is a strong contender to draft Durant.

seattle can invest in raw talent like Durant, and it will take him 2 to 3 years to get into "NBA" form (strength+speed+shooting). the other option is to go for a big body, such as Horford .


Posted by Rockabye on Jun-07-2007 10:36:

quote:
Originally posted by King Ecnal
I got what I needed:

LEBRON > JORDAN!

did MJ get to finals at 22?


didn't think so!



did the Eastern Conference was so bad when MJ was young?


didn't think so!


Washington, New Jersey, Detroit... please... what a joke.


Posted by Kapedano on Jun-07-2007 15:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
did the Eastern Conference was so bad when MJ was young?


didn't think so!


Washington, New Jersey, Detroit... please... what a joke.



agreed! i want this lebron hype to be over. he does not deserve it.


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