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Posted by Sunsnail on Jan-23-2007 04:16:
You guys are hilarious 
Posted by Haunted on Jan-23-2007 06:05:
do you even read the links you post? it said google acquired a company which got funded by the CIA, and that was in 2004. way after google "took off". and you use that as the basis in your argument that buying drugs funds google? since the CIA negotiated with drug lords in the 80s? you are retarded, sir.
Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-23-2007 21:45:
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Originally posted by Haunted
do you even read the links you post? it said google acquired a company which got funded by the CIA, and that was in 2004. way after google "took off". and you use that as the basis in your argument that buying drugs funds google? since the CIA negotiated with drug lords in the 80s? you are retarded, sir. |
This is how easily its to debunk - just ignore the strong points, as in my post on "drills going on at the time of 9/11 andd 7/7 attacks", and pick on someone whose point is backed by less credible evidence. Basically that shows that if you dont want to believe in a "conspiracy", no matter how much evidence is given to you, people like that will easily dismiss it as fabrication UNLESS the government or their favourite media tell them otherwise. However, people fail to note that when you have an argument against the government, that same government does not literally give out and approve any information that will make itself look like a criminal, and most people like you dismiss anything thats not approved by government or some government-trained agency.
Posted by ogvh5150 on Jan-23-2007 22:07:
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Originally posted by Haunted
do you even read the links you post? |
The relevant question is; did you? Or did you just press reply to argue nothing but to get a flame going?
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| it said google acquired a company which got funded by the CIA, and that was in 2004. way after google "took off". |
Not like people actually give a fugg about Alex Jones; there was an ex-CIA agents' claim that Google got it's seed money from the CIA aka the Cocaine Importing Agency. You would have known this if you actually clicked the link from the previous post.
If you cared to even know a little bit of history you would have realized pretty much wherever spooks are there has been some sort of drug trade. Gary Webb picked up on this. But about the only drug dealers you probably know are black, latino or some other minority/ethnic origin but never guys in suits and ties.
And if you knew your internet history you would have known that it was a military project called DARPAnet before it.
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| and you use that as the basis in your argument that buying drugs funds google? since the CIA negotiated with drug lords in the 80s? |
What makes you think they've stopped dealing drugs?
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| you are retarded, sir. |
You're arguing you're not gay in a gay bar.
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Dam ... nice links! |
Thanks but thank the guy behind the bbcodextra extension for firefox. And the authors of course. Assuming at least you read some of those links.
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
This is how easily its to debunk - just ignore the strong points, as in my post on "drills going on at the time of 9/11 andd 7/7 attacks", and pick on someone whose point is backed by less credible evidence. Basically that shows that if you dont want to believe in a "conspiracy", no matter how much evidence is given to you, people like that will easily dismiss it as fabrication UNLESS the government or their favourite media tell them otherwise. However, people fail to note that when you have an argument against the government, that same government does not literally give out and approve any information that will make itself look like a criminal, and most people like you dismiss anything thats not approved by government or some government-trained agency. |
+1
Sheeple my dear friend sheeple:

"I knew Osama did it, I just knew it."
Posted by ogvh5150 on Jan-23-2007 22:22:
Seed money is money that is used for the opening for a new business to pay for such preliminary stages as market research and product development. Potential business owners may use savings, remortgage, or raise funds from family and friends. A more business oriented option is to seek out angel investors, venture capitalists or accredited investors who may have an interest in the business and would be willing to invest in it. Seed capital does not need to be a large amount of money. Many people start up new business ventures with $10,000 or less. Seed money is not venture capital.
Seed money can can also come from financial bootstrapping. Bootstrapping in this context means making use of the cash flow of an existing enterprise. If an entrepreneur focuses on selling products and ensuring early payment, this is the most obvious way of generating seed money. However, as well as raising the bridge, an entrepreneur can lower the water. Other means of garnering or conserving seed money include purchasing second-hand equipment rather than new or leasing rather than buying; paying sales people or agents on commission rather than having people on the payroll.
Frequently an aspiring entrepreneur may think that he or she must spend all their early energy on raising finance, but often too much money is more disabling than too little. If cash is tight, the startup will be concentrated on essentials. Even after revenue is being earned, cash flow management will be the most significant determinant of early survival.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed_money
Seed Money
The first round of capital for a start-up business. Seed money usually takes the structure of a loan or an investment in preferred stock or convertible bonds, although sometimes it is common stock. Seed money provides startup companies with the capital required for their initial development and growth. Angel investors and early-stage venture capital funds often provide seed money.
http://vcexperts.com/vce/library/en...glossary_id=109
Simple definition:
To start your business up with no cash you borrow from someone else who'd you pay back eventually.
You can't have seed money years later after your successful but you can take out a mortgage or other loans later.
Where else can one back scratches another's back by lending cash to an upstart.
Posted by xstalkrx on Jan-27-2007 17:23:
The liberal media would surely give this more light if they thought it was credible. You would think we lose 3000 troops a day if you listen to them. The scientific community does not back the conspiracy theorists.
I'll be looking into the "terror drills" and other subjects...I'm sure there will be evidence to debunk those as well.
Posted by Zild on Jan-27-2007 17:57:
LOL @ liberal media. When someone says that phrase I automatically know they have no idea how anything works.
Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-28-2007 01:21:
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Originally posted by xstalkrx
I'll be looking into the "terror drills" and other subjects...I'm sure there will be evidence to debunk those as well. |
There is nothing to debunk that, other than saying that it was a coincidence that the government agencies were doing terrorist drills at the same time. The odds of that happening at the same time at the same place are so small, you'll have a higher chance of winning a lottery.
Posted by ogvh5150 on Jan-28-2007 22:56:
London had terror drills BEFORE 7/7.
That much is true. Peter Power admits then kind of, sort of retracts his statement about 7/7 even though there were drills prior.
Posted by music_flick on Jan-29-2007 07:00:
I don't know what to believe in this anymore.
Posted by ogvh5150 on Jan-30-2007 00:16:
Your brain is ripe for washing.
This is usually when your mind can't focus on a set of instructions and you know what's right and what's wrong. The moral and intelligent dilemma is where new thoughts are set in.
Be careful what you think for it's not what you want to know. Not what is right but what's accepted. There is a difference.
ordo ab chao
It means something to them. It might as well mean something to you.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-30-2007 21:59:
magnetonium would have to be one of the craziest fucking people ever.
as for the rest of you, i like it how all you CTers have totally ignored my post re the opinions of the demolition experts
its really embarrassing what you people will cling to and what you will ignore. you guys are way worse than the so-called "sheep" youre criticising. ogv5150 especially is known to post stuff he doesn't pre-read or analyse, so ignore all his shit.
id hate to feel this paranoid about the world 
Posted by shaolin_Z on Jan-30-2007 22:22:
Ignore the trolls bait ogvh5150 & Magnetonium. Don't feed the troll.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-30-2007 22:42:
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Ignore the trolls bait ogvh5150 & Magnetonium. Don't feed the troll. |
i troll coz you people ignore anything legitimate. you even said you wouldnt read the demolition expert opinion after i begged you. thats hardly a commitment to finding the truth shaolin.
Posted by shaolin_Z on Jan-30-2007 22:53:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i troll coz you people ignore anything legitimate. you even said you wouldnt read the demolition expert opinion after i begged you. thats hardly a commitment to finding the truth shaolin. |
Man, we've already gone in circles countless number of times. Do you really anything would change (for any of us) if we did it once again?
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-30-2007 22:58:
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Man, we've already gone in circles countless number of times. Do you really anything would change (for any of us) if we did it once again? |
haha, perhaps not. but if you did peruse the very short and easily understood paper, then you could say "the physics professor agrees with me" and i could say "the demolition experts agree with me" and then we could both agree to disagree
Posted by shaolin_Z on Jan-30-2007 23:12:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
haha, perhaps not. but if you did peruse the very short and easily understood paper, then you could say "the physics professor agrees with me" and i could say "the demolition experts agree with me" and then we could both agree to disagree |
Alright dude, I'm downloading that pdf doc you pasted earlier. I'll read it just for you
. But since I'm going ahead with that now, did you ever get around to watching Improbably Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic?
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-30-2007 23:28:
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Alright dude, I'm downloading that pdf doc you pasted earlier. I'll read it just for you . But since I'm going ahead with that now, did you ever get around to watching Improbably Collapse: The Demolition of our Republic? |
possibly. i watched a whole bunch of stuff a while back. not too good with the memory, hehe. cant watch it now anyway coz i no longer have ADSL at home.
Posted by shaolin_Z on Jan-30-2007 23:46:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
possibly. i watched a whole bunch of stuff a while back. not too good with the memory, hehe. cant watch it now anyway coz i no longer have ADSL at home. |
Alright, just finished. It's the most unconvings nonsense I've ever read on the subject. Sorry. I would have elaborate on that before, but like I said, I'm not fond of going in circles.
Posted by Zild on Jan-31-2007 00:06:
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Originally posted by ogvh5150
ordo ab chao
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Hail the sacred chao!
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-31-2007 00:41:
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Alright, just finished. It's the most unconvings nonsense I've ever read on the subject. Sorry. I would have elaborate on that before, but like I said, I'm not fond of going in circles. |
haha. how can you say THE expert in the field of demolition is unconvincing? i dont understand!
Posted by shaolin_Z on Jan-31-2007 01:19:
Argumentum ad verecundiam. Ad hominems don't impress me eigther.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-31-2007 02:58:
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Ad hominems don't impress me either. |
oh come now. you havent raised anything specific so what was i meant to do?
Posted by Magnetonium on Jan-31-2007 03:06:
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
oh come now. you havent raised anything specific so what was i meant to do? |
Explain me this, in case you missed me posting this a million times:
On 7/7 attacks as in on 9/11 attacks, government agencies were doing terrorist simulation attacks on the subway while the events then unfolded, all happening in ONE day at the SAME place at the SAME time!!! What are the odds of that happening??? The odds of that happening are one in a tretigillion, according to the video I've seen. And guess what - on 9/11 NORAD, which is supposed to protect American skies instead was doing terrorist drills, for the first time that year, and EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME and SAME PLACE terrorists attacked. Whoa, eh? Those terrorists hit the jackpot! HOW DID THEY KNOW??? Only with government's involvement!
7-7 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5Jltzcimc
9/11 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNjLt3vVwg
Haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ65NwtbQic
Full radio transcript for the same 7/7 attacks by a guy who clearly identifies himself as former British intelligence agent now working for some shady security company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPafvtJ9GU
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Jan-31-2007 03:08:
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Originally posted by Magnetonium
Explain me this, in case you missed me posting this a million times:
On 7/7 attacks as in on 9/11 attacks, government agencies were doing terrorist simulation attacks on the subway while the events then unfolded, all happening in ONE day at the SAME place at the SAME time!!! What are the odds of that happening??? The odds of that happening are one in a tretigillion, according to the video I've seen. And guess what - on 9/11 NORAD, which is supposed to protect American skies instead was doing terrorist drills, for the first time that year, and EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME and SAME PLACE terrorists attacked. Whoa, eh? Those terrorists hit the jackpot! HOW DID THEY KNOW??? Only with government's involvement!
7-7 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B5Jltzcimc
9/11 attacks had drills going on at the same time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNjLt3vVwg
Haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ65NwtbQic
Full radio transcript for the same 7/7 attacks by a guy who clearly identifies himself as former British intelligence agent now working for some shady security company.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpPafvtJ9GU
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these issues have been examined and debunked time and time again. which you would know if you EVER read anything from the other side of the fence. but you dont; you just ignore everything like you did when i hammered you over the WTC7 building collapse. youre a paranoid conspiracy lover and i see no point in trying to reason with you.
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