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is the list in the first post a master list where all the key said get added or if it isnt is there one somewhere?
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| Originally posted by 996vtwin WHAT DOES C# OR C SHARP REPRESENT ON THE CAMELOT? |
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| Originally posted by Camelot_Sound For Chris Harrington: Mixhare.com offers a collaborative database where folks are encouraged to input their own key results. Camelot Sound offers a subscription service where tracks are keyed by professional musicians. |
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| Originally posted by Camelot_Sound C-Sharp MINOR = D-Flat MINOR = Camelot keycode 12A C-Shart MAJOR = D-Flat MAJOR = Camelot keycode 3B For Chris Harrington: Mixhare.com offers a collaborative database where folks are encouraged to input their own key results. Camelot Sound offers a subscription service where tracks are keyed by professional musicians. |
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| Originally posted by 996vtwin HMM...SO I bought a single from anjuna and it says c# on the TAG it is Daniel Kandi - breathe. Rapid evolution says 11A and Mixed In Key says 12A which one is right? Also, is it 12 a or 3b according to the camelot wheel 12a and 3b cannot go together so which one is it or do I need more lessons in music theory. |
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| Originally posted by 996vtwin HMM...SO I bought a single from anjuna and it says c# on the TAG it is Daniel Kandi - breathe. Rapid evolution says 11A and Mixed In Key says 12A which one is right? Also, is it 12 a or 3b according to the camelot wheel 12a and 3b cannot go together so which one is it or do I need more lessons in music theory. |
Anyone know of any (free) software that will key tunes for you? That is acctualy trust worthy. I dont play an instrument so its hard for me to key tunes and mixshare dosent always have the songs im looking for and its down right now
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| Originally posted by Allayla Anyone know these? 1) Karen Overton - your loving arms (Markus Shulz mix) 2) Dj Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Ignite 3) Simon & Shaker - Zero (original/club state mix) Much appreciated!! |
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| Originally posted by chris harrington Anyone know of any (free) software that will key tunes for you? That is acctualy trust worthy. I dont play an instrument so its hard for me to key tunes and mixshare dosent always have the songs im looking for and its down right now |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN all of the programs are inaccurate to a degree. |
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| Originally posted by chris harrington sorry i asked the question wrong im looking for a program where i can catalouge things like key and bpm etc. not acctualy find the keys for me. An easy to use program where i can enter song name, artsis, song lenght, bpm, key, etc. anybody know of such a program? |
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| Originally posted by skip microsoft excel. |
For software try Mixed In Key.
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| Originally posted by Camelot_Sound For software try Mixed In Key. |
I agree, learning to key isn't that difficult and to be honest key matching software is far from perfrect.
Here is a little something that I put together for anyone looking to key tracks.
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How to key your tracks.
I am going to avoid getting into music theory, I have seen many posts on the net that get really into it but frankly speaking, you don�t need it and its total overkill.
Ok, so here is where we get to a point that many people ask me about. It�s no big secret but it does take a bit of practice and dedication to get right.
What you will need is the following:
One record player, preferably a �Technics� 1200 of some sort.
An instrument that has the western musical scale , so whilst you may have the urge use your Sitar, it may be making your life more difficult than it need be. I usually use a keyboard or guitar for this purpose. If you are using a guitar then make sure that it is properly tuned.
You will need knowledge of twelve major and minor chords (24 in total). For Trance music however you will find that the majority of music is in minor keys. The reason being that it is believed that minor keys generally convey more emotion (Or so they say).
Start by playing the intro of the track on the record deck. In most cases this will be the bassline and percussion parts that you are hearing. It is usually enough to key from this although some tracks can in fact change key through the course of the song itself.
What next?
What you are looking to do is find the single note that fits with the track that you are playing. Don�t get into chords yet as you don�t need to do it. When you are playing around you will eventually find one note on the key board that fits better than any other regardless of what the actual song does.
Once you have found this it will be considered your root note and this is what decides the key.
The reality of this is that you do need to be able to hear this and it may not come naturally at first for some people but you can train this ability. It can be done but you may just need a little patience.
When you have discovered the root note you will then be able to see if you can play a major or minor chord with the track itself. Take the root note and apply the Minor and Major chords and then decide which sounds the best.
Keep in mind that this is something that does take a little practice and have patience as it may not come naturally at first.
Cheers
Nem
All i wanted to ask is if can someone explain me what mixing in key can help you in djing?
Also how do you mix in key?
I ve been djing for a year now and i know how to mix two tunes together but i ve never try the key thing
I just dont know anything about it so be nice
thanks
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| Originally posted by gsfg All i wanted to ask is if can someone explain me what mixing in key can help you in djing? Also how do you mix in key? I ve been djing for a year now and i know how to mix two tunes together but i ve never try the key thing I just dont know anything about it so be nice thanks |
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| Originally posted by Nemesis44 I agree, learning to key isn't that difficult and to be honest key matching software is far from perfrect. Here is a little something that I put together for anyone looking to key tracks. _____________________________________________________________________ How to key your tracks. I am going to avoid getting into music theory, I have seen many posts on the net that get really into it but frankly speaking, you don�t need it and its total overkill. Ok, so here is where we get to a point that many people ask me about. It�s no big secret but it does take a bit of practice and dedication to get right. What you will need is the following: One record player, preferably a �Technics� 1200 of some sort. An instrument that has the western musical scale , so whilst you may have the urge use your Sitar, it may be making your life more difficult than it need be. I usually use a keyboard or guitar for this purpose. If you are using a guitar then make sure that it is properly tuned. You will need knowledge of twelve major and minor chords (24 in total). For Trance music however you will find that the majority of music is in minor keys. The reason being that it is believed that minor keys generally convey more emotion (Or so they say). Start by playing the intro of the track on the record deck. In most cases this will be the bassline and percussion parts that you are hearing. It is usually enough to key from this although some tracks can in fact change key through the course of the song itself. What next? What you are looking to do is find the single note that fits with the track that you are playing. Don�t get into chords yet as you don�t need to do it. When you are playing around you will eventually find one note on the key board that fits better than any other regardless of what the actual song does. Once you have found this it will be considered your root note and this is what decides the key. The reality of this is that you do need to be able to hear this and it may not come naturally at first for some people but you can train this ability. It can be done but you may just need a little patience. When you have discovered the root note you will then be able to see if you can play a major or minor chord with the track itself. Take the root note and apply the Minor and Major chords and then decide which sounds the best. Keep in mind that this is something that does take a little practice and have patience as it may not come naturally at first. Cheers Nem |
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| Originally posted by starboy www.harmonic-mixing.com That should give you most of your answers, read through the website. |
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| Originally posted by starboy Anyone know these? 1) Karen Overton - your loving arms (Markus Shulz mix) 2) Dj Remy & Roland Klinkenberg - Ignite 3) Simon & Shaker - Zero (original/club state mix) Much appreciated!! |
Is anyone finding that the majority of their tracks are A minor, E minor, F minor?
Makes it kinda hard to go around the wheel to diffrent songs. Does everyone here just have 1000000000 tracks so it's easy to transition or just stay in keys that have lots of songs?
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| Originally posted by phobosCGS Is anyone finding that the majority of their tracks are A minor, E minor, F minor? Makes it kinda hard to go around the wheel to diffrent songs. Does everyone here just have 1000000000 tracks so it's easy to transition or just stay in keys that have lots of songs? |
According to the Camelot system 7A only goes with another 7,6 or 8 how are you teling me 11A can also me harmonically compatible?
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| Originally posted by 996vtwin According to the Camelot system 7A only goes with another 7,6 or 8 how are you teling me 11A can also me harmonically compatible? |
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| Originally posted by starboy If you try the +4 -3 it sounds really nice most of the time, just have to be sure it doesn't drop the energy.. Nem i think created this theory with his musical knowledge. |
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