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Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-10-2008 05:42:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
Telus and Bell will be switching to GSM and Videotron will be the new player.



What.


Posted by exstasie on Jun-10-2008 10:31:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
What.



I think the auction that is going on right now might create some new entrants into the GSM market. I was reading somewhere that Telus was bidding on some of that...


Posted by malek on Jun-10-2008 13:30:

yes Bell and Telus are bidding and will win new GSM spectrums. Videotron will be the new GSM guy.

look it up on google, i only have french stuff.


Posted by Orko on Jun-10-2008 14:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
People really need to stop quoting the "3-year contract" price as if it's a meaningful number. You're not actually going to sign a 3-year contract with Rogers... are you?


So sad that it went from 1 year, to two years, and now 3 years! Talk about being a slave to your plan.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-11-2008 13:42:

Oooooooh new fancy S60 stuff...



*pants tighten with anticipation*


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-11-2008 18:14:



sounds like high data rates aren't the only thing we Canadians end up paying more for ..

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/441187


Posted by tvmann on Jun-11-2008 19:05:

Some blogs are reporting today iPhone on Fido as well as Rogers July 11, but I haven't seen anything official yet on the date for Fido. Previously it was said Fido would get the phone later.

This Apple page shows Rogers & Fido: http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/buy/

blogs etc:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1382487

http://www.eontarionow.com/technolo...one-3g-july-11/

http://simontonekham.wordpress.com/...store-near-you/


Posted by malek on Jun-11-2008 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by tvmann
Some blogs are reporting iPhone on Fido as well as Rogers July 11, but I haven't seen anything official yet.

http://www.eontarionow.com/technolo...one-3g-july-11/

http://simontonekham.wordpress.com/...store-near-you/


we know all that , its on the apple.ca store.


Posted by exstasie on Jun-12-2008 19:31:

Apparently these are the NEW data plans for Rogers to be in effect June 13th, 2008:

$30 for 300 megs
$60 for 1 gig
$100 for 6 gigs


Don't ask for a Source since its cant be verified, but its from someone who Works at Rogers.

Any truth Fur?


Posted by Cosmic Fur on Jun-12-2008 19:36:

I think you're looking for k@tie.


Posted by exstasie on Jun-12-2008 19:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I think you're looking for k@tie.


[email protected]'s all the same lol

K@tie Fur...can you help me?


Posted by me@t k@tie on Jun-12-2008 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by exstasie
K@tie Fur


That's disgusting.


There will be new data plans, yes. As for the specifics, everything is speculation right now. I don't know if it will be tomorrow (I haven't received any notification bulletins about that). Keep an eye on their website over the next little while though.


Posted by exstasie on Jun-12-2008 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by me@t k@tie
That's disgusting.


There will be new data plans, yes. As for the specifics, everything is speculation right now. I don't know if it will be tomorrow (I haven't received any notification bulletins about that). Keep an eye on their website over the next little while though.


k thanks

the source of the data apparently said that its the 20th...not tomorrow anymore..but i'll keep my eye out and let me know if you hear anything good


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-12-2008 22:58:

quote:
Originally posted by me@t k@tie
That's disgusting.



Haha, you're a furry

Or not. Hopefully not.


Posted by malek on Jun-12-2008 23:54:


Posted by Cyrus King on Jun-13-2008 00:23:

The CRTC and Ted Rogers should die already.

I think this country really sucks with thier "Lets make Canadian Wireless companies huge" by oligopolizing it.

I wish T-Mobile and AT&T or Vodafone came here to DESTROY that old fucking fart

I REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAALLLLLLLY HATE ROGERS


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-16-2008 22:52:



could Apple actually help Canada finally start to shed the unenviable reputation of having some of the highest consumer data rates in the developed world.. ?

quote:

Wireless data rates could fall after iPhone launch

June 16, 2008
Chris Sorensen
Business Reporter

With the data-hungry iPhone on its way to Canada, Rogers COO Nadir Mohamed suggested that wireless rates at the cable giant could finally be set to fall.

Mohamed said that wireless data pricing will �evolve� as Rogers subscribers begin using their phones for more than making voice calls - a trend expected to gain traction once Apple Inc.�s iPhone is made available to Canadians through Rogers on July 11.

The device is essentially an iPod, cellphone and portable Internet browser rolled into one and makes extensive use of data-intensive applications such as downloads and mobile Web browsing.

�You will see more value in our pricing as we go forward,� Mohamed said today at a telecom conference in Toronto.

Rogers and other Canadian wireless operators have been criticized for charging subscribers some of the highest data rates in the developed world.

There had been speculation that high prices at Rogers slowed iPhone negotiations with Apple, which launched the device in the United States nearly one year ago.

Rogers, however, has said its current wireless pricing model had nothing to do with the iPhone�s delayed Canadian launch.

While Rogers has yet to reveal how much it will cost Canadians to own an iPhone, executives have said they are not fans of unlimited plans such as those offered with the iPhone in the U.S. by AT&T Inc.

High prices were among the reasons cited by Industry Minister Jim Prentice for the federal government�s plan to encourage competition in the sector by setting aside wireless spectrum for industry entrants in an auction that is currently underway.


source:
http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/444119


Posted by malek on Jun-16-2008 23:33:

I called Fido yesterday, no plans available, nothing they can say. THERE WILL be special plans to the iPhone.

The phone will be available in stores on july 11th, orders on fido.ca will be taken starting july 11th for a delivery a few days after.

You can use your fido dollars on that 199$-299$ price.

If I wanted to screw people and were fido or rogers, i would force people to sign a specific plan made public that same day, for three year, and would be the only way to get the iphone. Hopefully no one reads my posts here.


Posted by Chris Allen on Jun-16-2008 23:35:

Apple requires a data plan to be available with competitive prices and unlimited usage or else they would not agree to moving to the carrier. This is one of many reasons it's taken so long for Canada to get the iPhone, so I guess Rogers has finally buckled under the pressure to a certain extent.

It will be interesting to see just how much, but I know we won't have plans as good as the US or EU anytime soon.


Posted by malek on Jun-16-2008 23:53:

I read that its not the case anymore with the iphone 2. There might be no unlimited plan afterall.


Posted by malek on Jun-16-2008 23:58:

Apple's New Business Model is AT&T's Old Business Model
Categories:

Apple iPhone
Tags:

When Apple first released the iPhone, it was supposedly the first phone with a new business model: Apple assumed the device was so desired, that carriers would kick back a proportion of their monthly data revenues. Carriers, on their parts, thought it was so desired that they wouldn't have to subsidize it. Consumers would be allowed to activate it at home, avoiding lines at the cell phone store.

Whoops.

With the iPhone 3G, it's back to the old ways. AT&T is treating this as a standard, run of the mill smart phone. You'll have to activate it at the store. You'll have to get it with a two-year contract. You'll pay for the same data plans that Windows Mobile owners pay for. And AT&T will subsidize -- is subsidizing -- the phone.

AT&T is taking an immediate financial hit from this; they now need to pay big subsidies up front, which they'll make back over the course of two year contracts. But the real losers, sadly, are consumers who were hoping for cell phone business models that weren't dependent on exclusivity and lock-ins. If AT&T is dependent on recouping subsidies over the course of a two year contract, you bet they're going to get a lot tougher on people trying to unlock iPhones. And they'll run out their whole rumored five year exclusivity deal.

A more interesting international lesson will play out over the next few months. One of the reasons Apple wasn't able to get more partners for the original iPhone was that Apple demanded a particular business model, with exclusivity, major revenue sharing, and affordable unlimited data plans. They seem to have gotten a lot more flexible.

That may mean unlocked, prepaid iPhones in Italy, iPhones with competing carriers in Asia, and, of course, $9,000 a month data plans on Rogers in Canada. (Rim shot please!)

http://www.gearlog.com/2008/06/appl..._model_is_a.php


Posted by exstasie on Jun-16-2008 23:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
Apple requires a data plan to be available with competitive prices and unlimited usage or else they would not agree to moving to the carrier. This is one of many reasons it's taken so long for Canada to get the iPhone, so I guess Rogers has finally buckled under the pressure to a certain extent.

It will be interesting to see just how much, but I know we won't have plans as good as the US or EU anytime soon.


That is what I thought as well, but apparently I read that in Ireland, they do not have an unlimited option.

They have 1GB for $20/month or something like that.

So while it isn't 'unlimited' it still is quite a bit.


Posted by dEsidEL on Jun-17-2008 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
That may mean unlocked, prepaid iPhones in Italy, iPhones with competing carriers in Asia, and, of course, $9,000 a month data plans on Rogers in Canada. (Rim shot please!)

http://www.gearlog.com/2008/06/appl..._model_is_a.php




LOL it's funny because it's true


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jun-17-2008 00:25:

I could probably go through 1GB in a day


Posted by exstasie on Jun-17-2008 00:33:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
I could probably go through 1GB in a day


same here...

but i don't we are the *average* consumer...


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