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Originally posted by hardcore trancer yes but Iam talking about the people of the countries that support Hezbullah and not the GOVERNMENT.like in Egypt where there was a huge protest and the people there where showing their support for Hezbullah. We all know that most arab countries in the region are run by a puppet government who support the Americans and their politics however thats not case with their people.

Yes, that must be it.
All arab countries are puppet governments with no brians of their own and are slaves of big scary American foreign policy.
Sounds like more like a person bent on anti-American paranoia than actual fact. Let's stop hiding behind this thin veil shall we? It's no surprise to any of us your views on American culture or policy but trying to pass off personal opinion as fact doesn't do a thing for your arguments.
At least give us something to chew on like...oh say...a source prehaps? (how many times am I going to have to repeat this?)

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oh dude you still think this is about 2 damn soldiers?

uh...no...I've (and others) actually argued against that lame suggestion, several times.
If you're too lazy to follow along and just put words in my mouth because you can't be bothered to actually read, then please do me (and all of us) a favour and don't bother replying to any of my posts.

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The point is Hexbullah is here to stay and they are now more popular then ever before so they cant be destroyd in other words Israel is wasting time and really this whole agression is pointless and nothing postitive could possibly come out of it.

Can you please point out this, "they are now more popluar then ever before" suggestion?
How about a link? a source? anything?
We're not going to just believe you because you said so; you know should know better than this by now...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer The point is Hezbullah is here to stay and they are now more popular then ever before so they cant be destroyd in other words Israel is wasting time and really this whole agression is pointless and nothing postitive could possibly come out of it.

Okay. Lets think hypothetically (this goes for you too Purple).

Describe to me what will happen if Israel does the following:

1. Stops all aggression towards Hezbollah and Palestinians
2. Pulls troops out from the Gaza strip and Westbank entirely
3. And finally, Israel gives up Jerusalem and shrinks its borders to the original UN Partition Plan in 1947

Now can you say to me, everyone else in PDD, and to yourself, with an honest heart:

"The violence will stop"
This is assuming you WANT peace in the region.

Would you really believe it yourself if you said it?

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Originally posted by DJFreaq Okay. Lets think hypothetically (this goes for you too Purple). Describe to me what will happen if Israel does the following: 1. Stops all aggression towards Hezbollah and Palestinians 2. Pulls troops out from the Gaza strip and Westbank entirely 3. And finally, Israel gives up Jerusalem and shrinks its borders to the original UN Partition Plan in 1947 Now can you say to me, everyone else in PDD, and to yourself, with an honest heart: "The violence will stop" This is assuming you WANT peace in the region. Would you really believe it yourself if you said it?

People hate Israel for different reasons than people hate US for. Israel dosent force its values and culture on Muslims, they never force their system of governance on Muslim countries. The sole reason people detest Israel is because of its occupation of territories; and proxy control over lives of people living in these occupied territories.

If Israel apologises, give them back their land, their rights and their freedom; these people will view Israel as a changed nation.

If Israel gives up Jerusalem than I seriously think this violence will stop. Violence will stop against Israel not US.

Any such plan should be backed up by financial assistance (from Israel) to Palestine until it rebuilds its economy and generates jobs.

I bet this was the same question colonial countries asked themselves before giving away slavery and colonisation of countries. Will these people still respect us and forgive us after what we did to them?

The territories that Israelis bought outright in 1881? Or territories that were legitimately taken through various wars and attacks instigated by their muslim counterparts in the 20th century?

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Originally posted by Purple If Israel apologises, give them back their land, their rights and their freedom; these people will view Israel as a changed nation.

which land?

lol Purple you're an idiot. go read a history book hahah

these weenies want their land back so we'll just give it back to them wahh. c'mon. are you serious?

that won't end ANYTHING, let's not even mention the fact that israel got the land legitimately. are you forgetting that these radicals HATE JEWS and want to ERADICATE ISRAEL? christ man, what don't you understand?

everyone wants a utopian society where everyone gets along but that just WON'T HAPPEN.. especially when you have religious radicals. how do you sit down with them and explain to them the concept of peace? they are BRAINWASHED. open your eyes

hardcore_trancer

I like to read your stupid comments... go on
where is the other dick head ?Is he now in Lebanon tries to fight Israely army? or he joined elkaida (or whatever) ?

Poor Hardcore, With out Cyrus he is the lone nut in a tree of ignorance.

Its rather sad to see him hate so much on the west when he lives in west and his rights are protected by the west.
Clown shoes Hardcore, clown shoes...

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Originally posted by cluBBer hardcore_trancer I like to read your stupid comments... go on where is the other dick head ?Is he now in Lebanon tries to fight Israely army? or he joined elkaida (or whatever) ?

He was rightfully banned.
It's a few pages back but the comment is there from the mod as to why.

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Originally posted by LazFX Poor Hardcore, With out Cyrus he is the lone nut in a tree of ignorance. Its rather sad to see him hate so much on the west when he lives in west and his rights are protected by the west. Clown shoes Hardcore, clown shoes...

I think that goverment of Canada has to send ppl like him back to the country he came from. Like WTF?! It's a dangerous to keep dicks like him in the country.You can't know what he might do,
maybe he's the next binladen

"Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies." - Nietzche
















have a nice day.

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Originally posted by cluBBer I think that goverment of Canada has to send ppl like him back to the country he came from. Like WTF?! It's a dangerous to keep dicks like him in the country.You can't know what he might do, maybe he's the next binladen

I wouldn't go that far.
He definately shows an A-typical-Toronto-immigrant-type mentality though. I know this because this type of attitude I can guarantee you doesn't exist ANYWHERE else in Canada BUT Toronto (and area).
I don't blame him though, the Liberal Party (not liberal), before they were ousted, has been catering to them for so long they have no idea what Canadian is (other than a passport).
Generations of them still believe they live 'over there' while camping out over here until their next trip to the motherland (ship?)
I'm not saying that ALL Canadian immigrants are like this however I wouldn't be surprised at all to have seen hardcore trancer whining in front of the media cameras, complaining about the bad sandwiches, had he been rescued from Lebanon at Canadian taxpayers expense.
Just my opinion.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I'm not saying that ALL Canadian immigrants are like this however....

It's like Arabs that live here & support Hizaballa & Palestins.
After each suisedbombers attacks in Tel-Aviv or other city you see them on TV, how they are happy...
I say, WTF?! send them to back to their country, if they feel like they don't belong to the country they are in ?

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer If these brutal hezbullah terrorists are that evil then why is it that almost all arab countries support them?

HAHAHAHAHA

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer If these brutal hezbullah terrorists are that evil then why is it that almost all arab countries support them?if they are that bad why isnt the whole world going after them? why is it that only Israel and the U.S wants them out? you seem to think that you know alot about the middle east,then perhaps you can tell me how would this Israeli aggression could make Israel safer in the region and how will this make the region stabilized? Almost everyone in the world aside from the U.S is saying that this war will bring no good to Israel and istead it will make Hezbullah more powerful and more popular in the region.

For once I agree with Mr. Trancer, please see my post on page 68:P

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Originally posted by cluBBer hardcore_trancer I like to read your stupid comments... go on where is the other dick head ?Is he now in Lebanon tries to fight Israely army? or he joined elkaida (or whatever) ?

hey go back to your bomb shelter kid.

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Originally posted by LazFX Poor Hardcore, With out Cyrus he is the lone nut in a tree of ignorance. Its rather sad to see him hate so much on the west when he lives in west and his rights are protected by the west. Clown shoes Hardcore, clown shoes...

ya thats right because I have a diffrent opinion on U.S and Israels politics that means I hate the WEST.

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Originally posted by cluBBer I think that goverment of Canada has to send ppl like him back to the country he came from. Like WTF?! It's a dangerous to keep dicks like him in the country.You can't know what he might do, maybe he's the next binladen

Another Russian Jew opening his mouth.AT least I have a country?where is yours? Israel? lol

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ya thats right because I have a diffrent opinion on U.S and Israels politics that means I hate the WEST.

no, but your hate-filled rhetoric does tend to give that impression. its ok to be passionate, but seeing the world in such a one-eyed way and abusing countries constantly makes it look like you hate the west.

i dont think you can ever attack any nation as if theyre wrong ALL the time. things are more complicated than that. and i think your tendency to focus on the US makes you miss other 'bad' things other nations might be up to.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I wouldn't go that far. He definately shows an A-typical-Toronto-immigrant-type mentality though. I know this because this type of attitude I can guarantee you doesn't exist ANYWHERE else in Canada BUT Toronto (and area).

you are a fuckin immigrant too dont forget.

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I don't blame him though, the Liberal Party (not liberal), before they were ousted, has been catering to them for so long they have no idea what Canadian is (other than a passport).

seriously wtf do you know about being Canadian?you think you are better then others or something because you support this bullshit by Israel?

I hope people dont get the wrong idea that canada is made up of bunch of sheeps like yourself.

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Generations of them still believe they live 'over there' while camping out over here until their next trip to the motherland (ship?)

Guess what smart ass without Immigrants Canada wouldnt exist.Dont forget that.

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I'm not saying that ALL Canadian immigrants are like this however I wouldn't be surprised at all to have seen hardcore trancer whining in front of the media cameras, complaining about the bad sandwiches, had he been rescued from Lebanon at Canadian taxpayers expense.

yup that sounds like me.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer If these brutal hezbullah terrorists are that evil then why is it that almost all arab countries support them?if they are that bad why isnt the whole world going after them? why is it that only Israel and the U.S wants them out?

I think alot of countries in the Middle East dont support Hezbullah. You just have your facts wrong. There are alot of good muslims that do not want terrorism, its just radicals like you who want a holy war.


Your just fucked up man, seriously. I mean, you live in the West. In Canada, almost the same style as Ameriacans live, and you do not appriciate what people like us are fighting for. Of course everyone hates Israel. They are the only smart ones out of all those nations in there. Everybody fears them. Arab countries will all that money that they have cant do crap. Look it took the Israeli nation 60 years or so to build what they have.

Look at the other Arab nations. Rich princes, and poor people. Yet you blame Israel and the U.S for all your problems. You are to blame yourself.

Purple, your an idiot. I dont know why you post man. You dont make sense. Go back selling some gas at Shell, or open up a 7/11 or whatever.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, but your hate-filled rhetoric does tend to give that impression. its ok to be passionate, but seeing the world in such a one-eyed way and abusing countries constantly makes it look like you hate the west. [quote]i dont think you can ever attack any nation as if theyre wrong ALL the time. things are more complicated than that. and i think your tendency to focus on the US makes you miss other 'bad' things other nations might be up to.

I understand what you are saying,but who has killed more people in this situation?Israel or Hezbullah? Iam just tired of hearing the word terrorism all the time.It is getting old and rubish.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I understand what you are saying,but who has killed more people in this situation?Israel or Hezbullah? Iam just tired of hearing the word terrorism all the time.It is getting old and rubish.

Im tired of your ass saying, who has killed more people, Israel or Hezbullah. Is that how you messure things?

I think you blind and death at the same time, seriously, or just plain stupid.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer I understand what you are saying,but who has killed more people in this situation?Israel or Hezbullah? Iam just tired of hearing the word terrorism all the time.It is getting old and rubish.

yeah, and i would agree to an extent. i just think sometimes your legitimate points get lost in your angry epithets

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Originally posted by Kapedan I think alot of countries in the Middle East dont support Hezbullah. You just have your facts wrong. There are alot of good muslims that do not want terrorism, its just radicals like you who want a holy war.

so they are bad muslims if they support hezbullah in this war?


Your just fucked up man, seriously. I mean, you live in the West. In Canada, almost the same style as Ameriacans live, and you do not appriciate what people like us are fighting for.[/quote]

Tell me wtf are you fighting for? your freedom?what is there to appriciate here?the fact that Lebenon is getting destroyd?or the fact that middle east has turned into a warzone?or should I be thankful for this so called democracy that you have placed there?

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Of course everyone hates Israel. They are the only smart ones out of all those nations in there. Everybody fears them. Arab countries will all that money that they have cant do crap. Look it took the Israeli nation 60 years or so to build what they have.

you think Israel would exist if it wasnt for the billions that U.S has given to them?Israel has nothing and without the U.S help they are history.

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Look at the other Arab nations. Rich princes, and poor people. Yet you blame Israel and the U.S for all your problems. You are to blame yourself.

so It is our fault that the region has turned upside down?

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