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| Originally posted by 996vtwin This I know but is it possible that they just provided the root key d# . On the RE2 keyboard when I use the single note function it sounds better than either minor or major. Does a song have to be minor or major? I would love to send someone this file since my RE2 dosent seem to be able to key it for some reason. Its 320kbps song and its a great song actually.  Pinokio I can send you the fil3 20mb and you can confirm it for me maybe.Mixed in key called it 6b or Bb according to cdjshop it would be a 5b or Eb but like I said im not convinced. Plus I wouldnt mind testing out the accuracy of cdjshop or even mixed in key for that matter. I already posted the problem in Mixshare forum so hopefully I will see what RE2 key it as. |
links sent to nemesis and pinokio.
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| Originally posted by Nemesis44 I think that D# is waaaaay off the mark if the versions of it that I have checked are going in their orignal pitch. I get it to sit around the G, probably G minor area. Please allow for some margin of error here as I only had laptop speakers and couldn't hear the full frequency range. D# does feature in the main hook as possibly a starting note but not as the root. The bassline tells me G. Cheers Nem |
Like I said, I was listening on laptop speakers so didn't really get the frequency range right. Although I do think the track has been keyed incorrectly.
By the way, wasn't able to get the link for some reason, could you try another method of sending it?
Cheers
Nem
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| Originally posted by Nemesis44 Like I said, I was listening on laptop speakers so didn't really get the frequency range right. Although I do think the track has been keyed incorrectly. By the way, wasn't able to get the link for some reason, could you try another method of sending it? Cheers Nem |
what is key?
and how do u find it of the song
anyone could help me with the key of these tunes ?? This is what i get but I just want to be sure these trax are in major keys, not minor !
Zehavi & Rand vs. Hydroid Carpe Diem A#
Phyn Shattered Skies D#
thanks !
EDiT:
sorry i've just read the request for trax on the www.mixshare.com webpage !
How-to: Energy Boost Mixing at the MixedInKey Forums.
I finally found a great example of harmonic mixing:
Shane 54's Mixed In Key Demo
It's a quick megamix of 32 tracks which sound absolutely amazing together. It makes me want to try a few mash ups.
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| Originally posted by Beatflux How-to: Energy Boost Mixing at the MixedInKey Forums. |
Did a little harmonic mix using some of the different methods that can be used.
It's nothing serious just a back to back mix basically. Just thought it would give an idea of flow etc. It's mixed on decks and CDJs.
http://download.yousendit.com/5CA0C6EF7E74B8B9
Cheers
Nem
into SOS.. brilliant =)
I recently bought my first batch of tunes from beatport(going 100 percent legit), and I keyed them with an ableton loop playing a minor chord followed by the root note and id tap it the same speed of the track while the track is playing on my comp. Then Id use the transpose function to move it up until ive increased by 12 semitones.and I settle with what sounds most pleasing.This method is really chillaxed, just sit there and press up and down(Im lazy I know, I should change haha) I think there were a few that needed major chords, But Im too noob to find those yet. Anyways...here are the tunes, sorry for the poor labeling I was rushed.Help would be greatly appreciated, I have a best campus dj competition next week, and its 30 min slot so Im thinking real quick mixes, harmonics will blow the roof off..(Im a frosh, so winning the competition would mean alot, I get 200 cash and a residence.)!!!!!Im really excited for this.I digress, here are the choons.-Oh, and I manually tapped the bpms on ableton so they are not 100 percent accurate, its to give myself a rough idea.Oh and Nem, I played with these keys at this house party with strobes and lights, the night started off slow(closed mind to house, people seemd to crave hip hop)....But as the harmonics started, I felt this rush Ive never felt before, when people chanted my name, It made me realize this is what I want to do in this life, I dont want to waste anymore time. Before harmonics seemed so Intimidating, but Nem, honestly without ur supreme online guidance I probably would have thrown in the towel.Sorry for the overdramatic noob speech!
Martijn ten velden-bassification 5A 127 bpm
Shiloh-Ruok 8A 130 bpm
Alejo Loaiza-tronik move 1A 129 bpm
Jose Acosta-appreciate me 8A 125 bpm
Paco Buggin -electrodark 2A 129
Deepjay Project-Saxong 5A 129.5bpm
X-1-hypnosis(terranova and leeds) 2A 130.5 bpm
Laidback Luke-hypnotize(dub) 10A 126 bpm
M1-lifted (mark mendes) 5A 126 bpm
Girls on Film-Vaporized(stever porter club) 6A 130 bpm
David Penn, Chus-We play house(dub deluxe) 8A 128 bpm
Fonzerelli-I Love Music 10A 126 bpm
Flat Mode-Play this Game (flat dub) 10A 128 bpm
Andrew Bennet-Light of Hope(Jody Wist.) 2A 128 bpm
Kyau vs. Albert-Megashira 8A 132 bpm
Eric Prydz vs Pink Floyd 7A 125 bpm
Alex Dolby-Airball 11A 125.5 bpm
Steven-Sonic for Boom (yoshy remix) 6A 128 bpm
Suite 17-smaller(flash brothers) 8A 127 bpm
Paco Buggin-Electrodark(Dio Zambrano) 3A 128 bpm
Praisemax-So Fast 3A 125 bpm
Ian Carey Project-Love Wont Wait 12A 128 bpm
Niels De Vries-Sueno(Asesinato) 5A 128 bpm
The Migrants-I thought that (boris duglosch) 4A 127 bpm
Gabriel Marchisio-I wanna play(Ariel Perazzoli) 9A 129 bpm
Dario Nunez-Chango Club 9A 127 bpm
Andrea Britton-Counting Down the days(Fonzerelli) 5A 129.5 bpm
Max Demand-Barcsak 2A 128 bpm
Dynamical Grooves-70�s robots rox(dub) 3A 132.5 bpm
Sebastien Leger-Cosmonite 2A 125.5 bpm
Jody Wisternoff-Nostalgia(remix) 8A 127 bpm
Shiloh-Vice 12A 125.5 bpm
Shiloh-Vice (luke chable) 12A
Pryda-Frankfurt 3A 123
Henrik B-overrun 6A 125
Jerry Ropero-Coracao feat.Jaqueline (Axwell) 11A 128 bpm
Mason-Exceeder (Martijn ten velden) 4A 128
Dave Robertson-the rendition 9A 125
Mark knight-Susan 12A 127 bpm
Lifelike-Discopolis(chris lake) 1 A 125 bpm
Unkle-Burn My Shadow (junkie xl)
Chab-closer to me(muzzaik) 10 A 124 bpm
Kober & Fischer-Electric Revolver 10 A 129.5
Sizequeen-Freak(peter is a freak) 5A 127.5
Red carpet-alright(brad carter) 9A 126
Axwell-Watch the sunrise(vocal dub) 11A
Ernesto & Bastian-Dark Side of the Moon(Axwell & Ingrosso) 9A 128.5
Jody Wisternoff-Cold Drink, Hot girl 12A 129
Yoshimoto-Du what u du(trentmoller) 9A 127 bpm
Dave Spoon-At night 9A 128
Djuma Sound System-Les Djinns(trentemoller) 4A 123.5
Lake & Leger-Stripy Flower 7A 125
Robert needs oil-Volta(Olivier Giacomotto) 2A 128
Rachael Starr-Crash(Massimo Santucci) 3A 127.5 bpm
Filo & Perry-triple crown 11A 130
Logiztik Sounds-Social Life 8A 131.5 bpm
Yahel-You Feel 8A 133.5 bpm
12A (Dbm) Mark Knight - Susan (Original Mix) 128.0
8A (Am) Jody Wisternoff - Nostalgia (Remix) 126.0
7A (Dm) Marc Marberg & Kyau Vs Albert - Megashira (Original Mix) 134.0
Don't tap the BPM of your tracks, they are wrong.
I could check these songs beacuse I got them.
About Megashira, I'm not Really sure if it's 8A (Am) or 7A (Dm), but you seem to be right with detecting the keys.
get Mixmeister, it will give you the BPM of your tracks correctly 99% accuracy, and it will also try to calculate they key of your tracks.
You just need to download the demo, it will analyze the BPM and Key for you, but don't trust 100% on their key detection, you will get better if you do it by ear, that way you will keep training your ear =)
Good Luck
Pepa
Yeh About Megashira, I noticed that with Yahel-you feel(also 8A), the mix didnt sound tonic in all parts. I will definately run my tracks through mixmeister just for bpm,thnx for the help!
Hey all, im having trouble determining the keys of these two songs...
satoshi tomiie - lover (dub)
-sample http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF210433-01-02-01.mp3
matt rowan & jaytech - gold mine (jaytech mix)
-sample http://www.trackitdown.net/search/keyword?q=gold+mine
thanks
Megashira!?
Heye guys i got a 6A key for Megashira from Rapid Evolution i think its pretty accurate hope it helps!
Megashira!?
Hey guys i got a 6A key for Megashira from Rapid Evolution i think its pretty accurate hope it helps!
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| Originally posted by Allayla Hey all, im having trouble determining the keys of these two songs... satoshi tomiie - lover (dub) -sample http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF210433-01-02-01.mp3 matt rowan & jaytech - gold mine (jaytech mix) -sample http://www.trackitdown.net/search/keyword?q=gold+mine thanks |
hey everybody!
it's been a while since i've posted. i'm so happy this thread is still alive and thriving. there is so much information buried in these pages :-)
fyi--i've thrown together a wiki on the mixshare site for harmonic mixing:
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for those who don't know, a wiki is a set of pages that can be edited/added to by anybody.
i've tried to add all of the relevant info on harmonic mixing (from places like this thread and harmonic-mixing.com) into the wiki. it can become a good central place for people to read about and add music theory knowledge, and will be much more organized that going through 70+ forum pages ;-) i'd love it if some of the people here (especially nem!) would contribute ;-)
anyway, it should be helpful for people new to harminic mixing especially...
quick clarification needed from all the harmonic mixers out there...
let's say i have a track that is in Eb minor... and i want to move it to F minor...
i would transpose it up 2 semi-tones yes?
also i was just thinking about it...and wanted to clarify. if i have a tune that is in a minor key...i won't be able to transpose it to a major key correct?
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller quick clarification needed from all the harmonic mixers out there... let's say i have a track that is in Eb minor... and i want to move it to F minor... i would transpose it up 2 semi-tones yes? |
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| also i was just thinking about it...and wanted to clarify. if i have a tune that is in a minor key...i won't be able to transpose it to a major key correct? |
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| Originally posted by Pinokio These are the order of the keys B--Bb--A--Ab--G--Gb--F--E--Eb--D--Db--C so yes; you would be transposing it by 2 semi-tones. I'm not sure if this is possible |
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| Originally posted by Floorfiller thanks for the response. yeah i figured my thinking was right on both, but wanted to double check. as for that second question...i don't think it's possible either...simply because the way the notes are laid out in major/minor keys...but just thought i'd throw it out there. |
'transposition' has nothing to do with major/minor, it has to do merely with the tonic of the scale and the key signature.
you can't change a track to major or minor, unless the intervals between the notes themselves are changed. Minor and Major are musical modes, essentially patterns of relationships between a set of tones, lacking pitch. Defining a tonic, eg C sets the key then for a track combined with the mode.
so you can change the tonic by transposing the track, but the intervals always stay the same, thus the mode always stays the same. unless you edit the track by adding/removing parts...
Also it's quite possible to mix a minor track with its relative major, eg Em with GMaj. Personally i feel like this is only really sucessful when there is a fairly minimal set of pitches in the original key, so that the difference in the mode isn't that obvious (unless this is part of the drama of what you are trying to do)
I cant be bothered to read all 80 pages of this lol, but don't you guys think it would be a great idea to have a website with all of the keys listed on it? perhaps we can start something on this? can the thread starter PM me ?
Thanks
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