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Posted by aNYthing on Jul-30-2006 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by ronk
about the Qana incident:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...3283816,00.html

I don't think IDF is responsible.


and as usual, the world leaders jump at the opportunity to blame Israel.

edit: a video that shows rocket launches from Qana to Israel (shot by IAF)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jhx2ZT0gTA




If that were true, you know no one would ever go on record and say - oops, sorry Israel. I still think insanity has to stop. Israel won't stop till Hizbullah will but those ******s will never stop, given the chance and liberty.

What amazes me is that Seniora goes on TV and tells Israel to stop. Hey fuckwit - how about CONTROLLING YOUR FUCKING BORDERS AND ANIMALS WITHIN THEM? HOW ABOUT TAKING THE ROCKETS AWAY FROM MILITANTS AND SENDING IN THE MILITARY TO CONTROLL THE CHAOS? EH?

Dipshits.


Posted by dennis on Jul-30-2006 22:33:

The word "logic" is not in his lexicon. This sucks, 48 hours for Hezbollah to regroup and find their feet


Posted by George Smiley on Jul-30-2006 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
If that were true, you know no one would ever go on record and say - oops, sorry Israel. I still think insanity has to stop. Israel won't stop till Hizbullah will but those ******s will never stop, given the chance and liberty.

What amazes me is that Seniora goes on TV and tells Israel to stop. Hey fuckwit - how about CONTROLLING YOUR FUCKING BORDERS AND ANIMALS WITHIN THEM? HOW ABOUT TAKING THE ROCKETS AWAY FROM MILITANTS AND SENDING IN THE MILITARY TO CONTROLL THE CHAOS? EH?

Dipshits.

Do you actually have any knowledge about Lebanon whatsoever? I suggest you get clued up instead of making assumptions/suggestions that make you look stupid...

For the record, Hizballah is more powerful than the Lebanese army, so no, they can't send the "military to control the chaos" cos it wouldn't work


Posted by dennis on Jul-30-2006 22:41:

SO WHOS FUCKING FAULT IS THAT?!



quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
the filthy zionists for being in lebanon for 20 years and weakening their military


Oh, ok. I think I can pretty much tell where this thread is going. It's just big circle of the same argument over and over again.


Posted by Elior on Jul-30-2006 22:41:

Well, the Red Cross stated that there were 28 dead in the Kana incident, and not 60 like other sources said through the day. It's still not sure what really happened there, but it was a wrong move, no matter what (by the IDF that is).

The 48 hours cease-fire will only help Hizbulla to runaway and reinforce their supply.


Posted by jonSun on Jul-30-2006 22:50:

quote:
Originally posted by aNYthing
Jews want to live in peace. Arabs want Jews to be erradicated. Any differences pop up?


If thats true why do the Jews invade Arabs land.? Its like America saying they want peace, but they keep invading a new country every couple years.


Posted by ronk on Jul-30-2006 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
If thats true why do the Jews invade Arabs land.?


because arabs made jews invade, that's why. we need to ensure our safety.

if it wasn't for the abduction and the killing of soldiers on July 12 (and, of course, the rocket launching on Israel), there would be quiet in the north of Israel and the south of Lebanon.


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-30-2006 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
If thats true why do the Jews invade Arabs land.? Its like America saying they want peace, but they keep invading a new country every couple years.

Or how they wanted peace so they wiped out a few indigenous civilizations here in America.


Posted by Haunted on Jul-31-2006 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Or how they wanted peace so they wiped out a few indigenous civilizations here in America.


oh shut the fuck up, history is history, if you feel so bad about it get the fuck out of the country and go live in a country filled with indigenous people.. umm.. where? go live with the Eskimos i guess


Posted by Alex on Jul-31-2006 00:15:

Ive seen posts like "A world without religion".

While they may seem like a good idea, it really isnt. Religion set down the guidelines for most of our laws/morales and laws/morales are what guide the vast majority of people on this earth.

There are people who break the law, and people who's morales arent up to the majority's standards, but you cant blame the driving force that keeps most of these people in line, again, a select few can paint a bad picture for a much larger number.


Posted by Purple on Jul-31-2006 00:19:

I am not sure about it, but Jew is a race, not a religion. Like Blacks, Whites, Asian, Indian...


Posted by Jake Benson on Jul-31-2006 01:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Purple
I am not sure about it, but Jew is a race, not a religion. Like Blacks, Whites, Asian, Indian...


A Jew can be either a race, or a religion, or both.

On that note, I sometimes convince (stupid LA) people that I'm not "white" because I'm "Jewish".


Posted by metalgearsolid on Jul-31-2006 01:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
oh shut the fuck up, history is history, if you feel so bad about it get the fuck out of the country and go live in a country filled with indigenous people.. umm.. where? go live with the Eskimos i guess

Fuck you, I am a Mexican American so I can stay here because my ancestors are indigenous of this hemisphere. Unlike, yours so fuck you you can't fucking tell me shit like that asshole.


Posted by Jake Benson on Jul-31-2006 01:13:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
If thats true why do the Jews invade Arabs land.? Its like America saying they want peace, but they keep invading a new country every couple years.


I'm totally taking this way out of context of the 79 pages, but...

Arab-Jews had already been living in that region when the holocaust victims came down after WWII.

Unless you are referring to right now? Hezblahblah from Lebanon threw the first punch. I don't know about Israel, but I would invade any country that harbors a terrorist group.


Posted by tathi on Jul-31-2006 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I'm totally taking this way out of context of the 79 pages, but...

Arab-Jews had already been living in that region when the holocaust victims came down after WWII.

Unless you are referring to right now? Hezblahblah from Lebanon threw the first punch. I don't know about Israel, but I would invade any country that harbors a terrorist group.

and what about Israels' state-sanctioned terrorism?


Posted by Sid on Jul-31-2006 02:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Jake Benson
I'm totally taking this way out of context of the 79 pages, but...

Arab-Jews had already been living in that region when the holocaust victims came down after WWII.

Unless you are referring to right now? Hezblahblah from Lebanon threw the first punch. I don't know about Israel, but I would invade any country that harbors a terrorist group.


what about the largest terrorist group in the world, which invades sovereign lands and is the direct cause for innocent civilians dieing everyday.

Yes im referring to the BUSH ADMINISTRATION!


Posted by shaolin_Z on Jul-31-2006 02:52:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Fuck you, I am a Mexican American so I can stay here because my ancestors are indigenous of this hemisphere. Unlike, yours so fuck you you can't fucking tell me shit like that asshole.


+1


Posted by venomX on Jul-31-2006 05:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Alex
Ive seen posts like "A world without religion".

While they may seem like a good idea, it really isnt. Religion set down the guidelines for most of our laws/morales and laws/morales are what guide the vast majority of people on this earth.

There are people who break the law, and people who's morales arent up to the majority's standards, but you cant blame the driving force that keeps most of these people in line, again, a select few can paint a bad picture for a much larger number.


If you need religion to teach you morals, means you dont really understand why you dont hate other races, or why you dont kill your neighbour, or why you dont steal. If you only refrain because some invisible omnipotent being will punish you when you die a reality check is due. What morality is based on punishment? It is as if you were describing animals and classical conditioning.

I do agree that this is the sad state with a lot of people, i would just love to see a world when people actually understand why we refrain from agressing others instead of just doing it in fear of punishment.


Posted by LazFX on Jul-31-2006 08:16:

quote:
Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Fuck you, I am a Mexican American so I can stay here because my ancestors are indigenous of this hemisphere. Unlike, yours so fuck you you can't fucking tell me shit like that asshole.


PREACH IT BrOTHER!!!!

alot of fucking people are ignorant, a mexican; or for that matter any present day latino is just a mix of Native American, southern and northern and European blood. These fucks that say go home to many of my latin brothers can shut the hell up!! our blood has been in this hemisphere ever since the crossing of the Bering Strait. Thats why alot of hispanics can pass for Asians. All an native north and south american indian is an off shoot of the asian blood lines. FACT: In addition to archaeological research on ancient human sites, ancient skeletal remains show a range of physical attributes suggesting separate migrations of different populations of modern humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) from Asia.
My people were fucking creating mathmatics and building great cities with their bare hands, while most of europe was fucking eating shit and still had no written language. FACT:we have been here at least 20,000 years--longer than men have inhabited England.
The sad thing is another part of my blood line was responsible for killing directly and indirectly many of my ancestors. Kind of wierd if you think about it.

sorry for the minor hijack, back to topic


Posted by dennis on Jul-31-2006 15:36:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX



My people were fucking creating mathmatics and building great cities with their bare hands, while most of europe was fucking eating shit and still had no written language.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...n_Aztec_culture
I rather eat shit and not know how to write, but thats just my opinion


Posted by Shakka on Jul-31-2006 16:17:

Call me a hawk, but I subscribe to this belief. An apt comparison if you ask me.

quote:
When I was in the Navy, I once witnessed a bar fight in downtown Olongapo (Philippines) that still haunts my dreams. The fight was between a big oafish Marine and a rather soft-spoken, medium-sized Latino sailor from my ship.
All evening the Marine had been trying to pick a fight with one of us and had finally set his sights on this diminutive shipmate of mine� figuring him for a safe target. When my friend refused to be goaded into a fight, the Marine sucker-punched him from behind on the side of the head so hard that blood instantly started to pour from this poor man�s mutilated ear.

Everyone present was horrified and was prepared to absolutely murder this Marine, but my shipmate quickly turned on him and began to single-handedly back him towards a corner with a series of stinging jabs and upper cuts that gave more than a hint to a youth spent boxing in a small gym in the Bronx.

Each punch opened a cut on the Marine�s startled face and by the time he had been backed completely into the corner he was blubbering for someone to stop the fight. He invoked his split lips and chipped teeth as reasons to stop the fight. He begged us to stop the fight because he could barely see through the river of blood that was pouring out of his split and swollen brows.

Nobody moved. Not one person.

The only sound in the bar was the sickening staccato sound of this sailor�s lightning fast fists making contact with new areas of the Marine�s head. The only sound I have heard since that was remotely similar was from the first Rocky film when Sylvester Stallone was punching sides of beef in the meat locker.

Finally the Marine�s pleading turned to screams�. a high, almost womanly shriek. And still the punches continued relentlessly.

Several people in the bar took a few tentative steps as though they wanted to try to break it up at that point, but hands reached out from the crowd and held them tight. I�m not ashamed to say that mine were two of the hands that held someone back.

You see, in between each blow the sailor had begun chanting a soft cadence: �Say [punch] you [punch] give [punch] up [punch]... say [punch] you [punch] were [punch] wrong [punch].�

He had been repeating it to the Marine almost from the start but we only became aware of it when the typical barroom cheers had died down and we began to be sickened by the sight and sound of the carnage.

This Marine stood there shrieking in the corner of the bar trying futilely to block the carefully-timed punches that were cutting his head to tatters� right down to the skull in places. But he refused to say that he gave up� or that he was wrong.

Even in the delirium of his beating he believed in his heart that someone would stop the fight before he had to admit defeat. I�m sure this strategy had served him well in the past and had allowed him to continue on his career as a barroom bully.

Finally, in a wail of agony the Marine shrieked �I give up,� and we gently backed the sailor away from him.

I�m sure you can guess why I have shared this story today.

I�m not particularly proud to have been witness to such a bloody spectacle, and the sound of that Marine�s woman-like shrieks will haunt me to my grave. But I learned something that evening that Israel had better learn for itself if it is to finally be rid of at least one of its tormentors:

This is one time an Arab aggressor must be allowed to be beaten so badly that every civilized nation will stand in horror, wanting desperately to step in and stop the carnage� but knowing that the fight will only truly be over when one side gives up and finally admits defeat.

Just as every person who had ever rescued that bully from admitting defeat helped create the cowardly brute I saw that evening in the bar, every well-intentioned power that has ever stepped in and negotiated a cease-fire for an Arab aggressor has helped create the monsters we see around us today.

President Lahoud of Lebanon, a big Hezbollah supporter and a close ally of Syria, has been shrieking non-stop to the UN Security Council for the past two days to get them to force Israel into a cease fire.

Clearly he has been reading his autographed copy of �Military Success for Dummies: Arab Despots� by the late Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt. Ever since Nasser accidentally discovered the trick in �56, every subsequent Arab leader has stuck to his tried and true formula for military success:

Instigate a war.

Once the war is well underway and you are in the process of having your ass handed to you� get a few world powers to force your western opponent into a cease-fire.

Whatever you do, don�t surrender or submit to any terms dictated by your enemy. That would ruin everything! All you have to do is wait it out and eventually the world will become sickened at what is being done to your soldiers and civilian population� and will force a truce.

Once a truce has been called, you can resume your intransigence (which probably caused the conflict in the first place), and even declare victory as your opponent leaves the field of battle.

This tactic has never failed. Not once.

In fact it worked so well for the Egyptians in 1973, that to this day they celebrate the Yom Kippur War � a crushing defeat at the hands of Israel � as a military victory! No kidding� it�s a national holiday over there!

President Lahoud has already begun to shriek like a school girl to the UN Security Council to �Stop the violence and arrange a cease-fire, and then after that we�ll be ready to discuss all matters.�

Uh huh. Forgive me if I find that a tad hard to swallow. He allowed Hezbollah to take over his country. He allowed the regular Lebanese army to provide radar-targeting data for the Hezbollah missile that struck the Israeli destroyer. He has turned a blind eye while Iranian and Syrian weapons, advisers and money have poured into his country.

And now that his country is in ruins he wants to call it a draw.

As much as it may sicken the world to stand by and watch it happen, strong hands need to hold back the weak-hearted and let the fight continue until one side finally admits unambiguous defeat.


Posted by swilly on Jul-31-2006 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dennis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...n_Aztec_culture
I rather eat shit and not know how to write, but thats just my opinion


wow brilliant statement


Posted by LazFX on Jul-31-2006 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by dennis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...n_Aztec_culture
I rather eat shit and not know how to write, but thats just my opinion


The Aztec civilization had a vibrant culture which included mandatory education and a rich and complex mythology. For Europeans, the most striking element of the Aztec culture was the practice of human sacrifice which was conducted throughout Mesoamerica prior to the Spanish conquest.
huh?? oh you would? hang on let me go and serve you ups some in a few, would you like that with corn on no corn?? loose or one big ass log lol



take care bro...


Posted by dennis on Jul-31-2006 17:26:

Yea, with corn please. Afterwards, you can throw yourself off a building to please your king.


Posted by colonelcrisp on Jul-31-2006 17:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Haunted
oh shut the fuck up, history is history, if you feel so bad about it get the fuck out of the country and go live in a country filled with indigenous people.. umm.. where? go live with the Eskimos i guess



i belive the term you were looking for was Inuit, not fuckin eskimo.... i know this can be hard for you sister fuckin, gun totin rednecks to comprehend.

quote:
These fucks that say go home to many of my latin brothers can shut the hell up!! our blood has been in this hemisphere ever since the crossing of the Bering Strait.


BEARING STRAIGHT.... well technically it was, at that time, the bearing isthmus, or land bridge. secondly, while stating that your bloodlines have been in this hemisphere for thousands of years may be correct, since the earth only has a north and south hemisphere (hemisphere does mean half of a sphere.....), your argument is moot as the europeans have been in the northern hemisphere for thousands of years as well.

try not to sound like such a moron in the future


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