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Originally posted by gehzumteufel The guy above you and myself are HUGE E30 M3 fans. As is LEN and a few others.

Yes guy! They are the best touring car racer ever, followed a close second by the badass Ford Sierra RS500

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Originally posted by Matt Es me and my friend are actually thinking of buying e30s, i really want one. they look like such fun cars and theres a lot of aftermarket parts available etc. which makes it a fun project car in my opinion.

Nice! E30 BMW's make awesome low-cost track cars and beater racers. Parts are plentiful and relatively interchangeable between the various spec's of E30 flavours.

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Originally posted by Matt Es anybody else on here addicted to bmws?

Addicted doesnt begin to cover my feelings towards bmws :P My weak spot is the e34 V8 (or an m5 with a v8 kidney grille, im good with both ). Sadly the car has somewhat of a bad reputation around here. Because it was cheap to buy and cheap to run it was bought by wannabe street racers who wanted a step up from their civic. Needles tos ay after years of such abuse by idiots its wery hard to find a decent one for sale, and if you do, because of the high demand for them they can cost up to about 10.000EUR which is just insane

Sadly those people have grown upa bit now, but they still abuse their cars, which is a disaster since most have moved one to another of my favs, the e38

See here it was the opposite with the E34! And yes I love that one too. I really have an affinity for older BMWs. Really love their design.

Yes the Tesla Roadster and the Model S have been mentioned.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel See here it was the opposite with the E34! And yes I love that one too. I really have an affinity for older BMWs. Really love their design.

Im always searching for a wine with a decent price/condition ratio, sadly havent found one yet. Like i mentioned before, either they are from the first owner and thus ridiculously expensive (also the v8 models were very rare around here, 520i and 525i were the most common) or they are so banged up that i could almost buy an e60 545i for the price it would take me to put the old one back into working order...such a shame.

They are beautiful classics though




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/3109311426_83b2d9dfd4.jpg?v=0


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Even the 5 series before the E34 (E30 years, but 5 series) was kind of fun in that old and angular sort of way.

They're all fantastic cars though.

Mongoose - what are the import taxes like if you went shopping for one in Germany? You could probably find an affordable one there that has been well maintained.

LEN - that 3.0CSL and Z4 ///M Coupe are awesome. I love the burnt orange wheels. A brave choice of colour but it works great.

For new cars importing is not a problem, but for such old ones there so much hassle and cost involved that its just not viable unless you have money to burn. That's unless the car is designated as a classic car, but it has to be at least 25 years old for that and the most desirable e34 models (1995 540i M-Sport 6 speed manual and 1995 3.8l M5 6 speed manual) are still far far from that.

God, I love this car.

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Originally posted by Moongoose For new cars importing is not a problem, but for such old ones there so much hassle and cost involved that its just not viable unless you have money to burn. That's unless the car is designated as a classic car, but it has to be at least 25 years old for that and the most desirable e34 models (1995 540i M-Sport 6 speed manual and 1995 3.8l M5 6 speed manual) are still far far from that.

What about importing a non-running one for parts? Do you guys have a "vin" there? VIN is Vehicle Identification Number. Basically a number that identifies the car quite specifically with a serial number among other things.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel What about importing a non-running one for parts? Do you guys have a "vin" there? VIN is Vehicle Identification Number. Basically a number that identifies the car quite specifically with a serial number among other things.

Good call!

Import two or three beaters and assemble one "chosen one" and register it as a kit car

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Originally posted by wotyzoid God, I love this car.

Yeds. It's a shame that they changed the rules before the Speed12 got a fair crack in competition

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Originally posted by pmoisse Good call! Import two or three beaters and assemble one "chosen one" and register it as a kit car

Well, I was more suggesting a VIN swap if they used them there. Just bring it in as parts (to be able to do that in the US the wheels and motor have to be removed and shipped separately) and then just reassemble it with a beat up ones serial/vin.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Well, I was more suggesting a VIN swap if they used them there. Just bring it in as parts (to be able to do that in the US the wheels and motor have to be removed and shipped separately) and then just reassemble it with a beat up ones serial/vin.

Ahh, my bad. I misunderstood.

The first EVO (Evo VI) imported into Ontario came in after being disassembled in the US, put in boxes, and reassembled at a shop in Georgetown and licensed as a kit car.

I figured Mongoose could maybe pull the same stunt

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Originally posted by pmoisse Ahh, my bad. I misunderstood. The first EVO (Evo VI) imported into Ontario came in after being disassembled in the US, put in boxes, and reassembled at a shop in Georgetown and licensed as a kit car. I figured Mongoose could maybe pull the same stunt

This isn't so easy in the US anymore. Those Skyline GT-Rs that went through this (there were like 3 or 4 of them) got impounded till they went through the proper channels. This was before the DOT ban on R34 and R33 Skylines.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel This isn't so easy in the US anymore. Those Skyline GT-Rs that went through this (there were like 3 or 4 of them) got impounded till they went through the proper channels. This was before the DOT ban on R34 and R33 Skylines.

Booo! That sucks. Faster & Furiouser crowd drew too much attention to them I guess?

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Originally posted by pmoisse Booo! That sucks. Faster & Furiouser crowd drew too much attention to them I guess?

lol basically. They were so eager to get them in, they would do anything to do it quasi-legally.

Also, the reason the R33 and R34 are now banned, is because Motorex was the only one that paid for FMVSS and DOT type testing. As a result, no other company had test results. So when Motorex was forging documents and falsely converting R34s, they just outright banned them. Sucks, but what can you do.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel lol basically. They were so eager to get them in, they would do anything to do it quasi-legally. Also, the reason the R33 and R34 are now banned, is because Motorex was the only one that paid for FMVSS and DOT type testing. As a result, no other company had test results. So when Motorex was forging documents and falsely converting R34s, they just outright banned them. Sucks, but what can you do.

Ahh! Motorex!! I was hunting for the name but couldn't remember it. Now I remember the drama.

Damn. Oh well, good times while they lasted I guess.

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Originally posted by pmoisse Ahh! Motorex!! I was hunting for the name but couldn't remember it. Now I remember the drama. Damn. Oh well, good times while they lasted I guess.

Yeah. Lots of drama lol The guy was stealing R34s from Japan and bringing them here!

Sadly, most of the loopholes have been closed a few years back. Partly due to the ease of imports from nearby countries, but mostly due to the sudden emergence of illegal street racing (another reason besides crimes against aesthetics to blame on the fast and furious movies) so faking anything on a car these days just isn't worth the effort, especially if the car in question is as high profile and rarity as a mint condition 5 series v8. There are plenty of old 5ers driving around, but most of them look like shit, so the ones that look decent are immediately suspicious and are often checked for illegal mods.

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Originally posted by pmoisse Ahh! Motorex!! I was hunting for the name but couldn't remember it. Now I remember the drama. Damn. Oh well, good times while they lasted I guess.

A friend just linked me to a new article. An R34 GT-R in the states legally...although shady as hell technically lol

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/d...rticleId=105699

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel A friend just linked me to a new article. An R34 GT-R in the states legally...although shady as hell technically lol http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/d...rticleId=105699

Great article!

I love dodgy shit like this, though I would never go near it myself.

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Originally posted by pmoisse Great article! I love dodgy shit like this, though I would never go near it myself.

lol I would. The thing is, the company is technically doing it legal, even if it is the definition of shady.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel lol I would. The thing is, the company is technically doing it legal, even if it is the definition of shady.

hmm, you make a good case! Ahh, who am I kidding? I'm such a sucker for a good project that I would take the plunge on this one.

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Originally posted by pmoisse hmm, you make a good case! Ahh, who am I kidding? I'm such a sucker for a good project that I would take the plunge on this one.

Same. If this manufacturer plate was swapped in the US, I would never bother. But being that it is done overseas before the US has anything to do with it, it is a good way to skirt the R33 and R34 ban on newly imported ones.

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