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It's so sad to see many of my fellow Americans completely brainwashed with this war. I'm so glad I moved to Europe and get to see the real news, not CNN or FoxNews.
Anyhow, whoever says it's gay for a DJ to publicly express his views on the war or any issue not related to music is a hopeless ignorant. I recommend you take a couple of art history and/or music history courses so you learn about how social circumstances have shaped culture and how art has reacted to these various discourses.
This reminds me of when Beethoven was composing his 3rd Symphony inspired on Napoleon's republican and anti-monarchic ideals and was even going to call it the Napoleon symphony. However, when Napoleon's true imperial intentions became known Beethoven completely lost his temper and composed a mad crazy symphony where you can hear his angst and dissapointment with Napoleon. He crossed out the dedication to Napoleon and changed the name to the Eroica symphony. My favorite 
Trance is art, art is mostly made by idealist people who usually fall left of center. Face it, it has always been like that and it will always be the same. If you don't like that fact and can't live with it then support some right wing art instead. Good luck finding it. 
Also, PvD is a cultural ambassador to a country that opposes the war(Germany), so he's even more qualified to represent his country that way. If you'll stop supporting PVD because of his expressed views on the war then don't worry about it, I'm sure he won't miss ya 
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| Originally posted by DJ P�O It's so sad to see many of my fellow Americans completely brainwashed with this war. I'm so glad I moved to Europe and get to see the real news, not CNN or FoxNews. Anyhow, whoever says it's gay for a DJ to publicly express his views on the war or any issue not related to music is a hopeless ignorant. I recommend you take a couple of art history and/or music history courses so you learn about how social circumstances have shaped culture and how art has reacted to these various discourses. This reminds me of when Beethoven was composing his 3rd Symphony inspired on Napoleon's republican and anti-monarchic ideals and was even going to call it the Napoleon symphony. However, when Napoleon's true imperial intentions became known Beethoven completely lost his temper and composed a mad crazy symphony where you can hear his angst and dissapointment with Napoleon. He crossed out the dedication to Napoleon and changed the name to the Eroica symphony. My favorite [ Trance is art, art is mostly made by idealist people who usually fall left of center. Face it, it has always been like that and it will always be the same. If you don't like that fact and can't live with it then support some right wing art instead. Good luck finding it. Also, PvD is a cultural ambassador to a country that opposes the war(Germany), so he's even more qualified to represent his country that way. If you'll stop supporting PVD because of his expressed views on the war then don't worry about it, I'm sure he won't miss ya |
PEACE
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| Originally posted by Azz3D In a state of war, people will die no matter what. You're making it seem like Bush is saying "Go kill those stupid Iraqi civilians", when in reality he's trying to give them freedom they well damn deserve. So you're saying you'd let Saddam continue what he has been doing for the past 2 decades, killing millions, and I mean millions of his own people while the world stands there and does nothing??? Proof is out there, just ask any Iraqi citizen, and they'll give you the whole truth about Saddam's wrongdoings. I pity your French government-influenced mind. |
Most of this thread belongs in the good old Political Flame Zone...forum...whatever 
but I think the main post deserves responding to.
See, there's this thing called freedom of speech that people tend to like until someone says something that they don't want to hear...and PvD is exercising his freedom to say what he wants on his web site.
You can bitch about it, and you can boycott his shows over it if you're really that upset, but the fact remains that he has every right to say what he pleases on his own web site.
Surprise, he's against the war like a vast majority of the world is, if you can't deal with a dissenting opinion you're definitely living in the right country, but you need to stop reading international forums and web sites, because everywhere else people still seem to be interested in listening to the other side, and thinking over their own stances instead of just blindly going along with the main line, and refusing to even give dissenters the time of day, let alone respect.
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| Originally posted by milanster hahaha dude ur post is funny as fuck...whered u get that shit from? iraqi freedom? war for good? ROFL!!! just another guy in fucking dreamland... cnn and its la la land world...wake up stupid fucks! plus who are u to judge whether certain opinions are bright while the others are not... ah im wasting time again... props to pvd! im impressed  |
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| Anyhow, whoever says it's gay for a DJ to publicly express his views on the war or any issue not related to music is a hopeless ignorant. I recommend you take a couple of art history and/or music history courses so you learn about how social circumstances have shaped culture and how art has reacted to these various discourses. |
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| Originally posted by CortexBomb Most of this thread belongs in the good old Political Flame Zone...forum...whatever but I think the main post deserves responding to.See, there's this thing called freedom of speech that people tend to like until someone says something that they don't want to hear...and PvD is exercising his freedom to say what he wants on his web site. You can bitch about it, and you can boycott his shows over it if you're really that upset, but the fact remains that he has every right to say what he pleases on his own web site. Surprise, he's against the war like a vast majority of the world is, if you can't deal with a dissenting opinion you're definitely living in the right country, but you need to stop reading international forums and web sites, because everywhere else people still seem to be interested in listening to the other side, and thinking over their own stances instead of just blindly going along with the main line, and refusing to even give dissenters the time of day, let alone respect. |
Whoever opened up this thread is rediculously *OWNED*
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| Originally posted by LiquidX Whoever opened up this thread is rediculously *OWNED* |
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| Originally posted by tor8024 Sadam is evil indeed, but that doesn't mean this war is justified. Bush and Blair took the initiative themselves, without the approval of the UN.. approval they didn't get because the inspectors hadn't found any weapons of mass destruction, the initial reason for this war. why did Bush actually change his motives for going to war from weapons of mass destruction to "iraqi freedom"? |
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| Originally posted by Haunted haha not really. i still think pvd is an idiot for doing that pro war fans go on his site and he loses fans its just stupid to mix yourself into politics if youre not a politician |
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| Originally posted by extulas PVD sucks. So therefore, Everyone is bashing him, I see alot of people who use to scream at me for not thinking he is cool. Now they are makeing a mokcery of him. For an Angel - Not good.  |
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| Originally posted by T_2199 You are stupid! Really stupid!! How many ppl agrue about politics and express their oponions about politics... Everybody, including you.. You�re saying all what the politicians do is right and everbody who is not a politican should shut up.. how smart and if u stop listening to pvd because he has another opinion than you on one thing than you are really a child! ps. im pro war !! |
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. Thas why were at war, personally I dont agree, and I dont think things like that should be said after a war is taking place, its not fair to troops, but then again Paul's countrymen decided not too join this war, so Im sure its kind of hard for him to be empathetic.
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| Originally posted by Haunted when did i ever say im going to stop listening to pvd? im listening to his live set right now actually ill argue all i want to. but this is a message board. actually if this was under the political section i couldve said "this is the right place for it" but we can overlook that im not trying to spread my opinion by posting it on my website that gets millions of hits a day (lets pretend i have one) im arguing about it with a select few individuals see the difference? or am I too stupid. |
j/k
I've just become a bigger PVD fan than I used to be
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| Originally posted by EriK_V "Not by fine speeches and majority votes are the great issues of the day decided...but by iron and blood!" Otto von Bismarck sissy, "stop the war" blah blah crap. More of "it's for the oil" bullcrap. THat's a homoburger with extra gay sauce. all the rest, Eri |
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| Originally posted by Haunted its just stupid to mix yourself into politics if youre not a politician |
because youre french.
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| Originally posted by Haunted because youre french. |
http://www.rock103.com/crew/pics/shutup.jpg
lol look @ the state of it : /
but fair enough freedom of speech and all...
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| Originally posted by Haunted because youre french. |
<--- That�s french !?! HAHA 
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| Originally posted by Haunted because youre french. |
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