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All religions in a way are in varying degrees cults. I know 2 people who are JW's, one of them left and went back... He said something I'll never forget "I hate the religion, but I'll go back because its like a family, its all I've ever known."
I'm sorry but I do not share your views, I do however respect that you have a right to them. I however don't like the fact you push it on others, I don't go door to door trying to convince people that there is no god and that its time humans woke up from this old story book.. I've even read this little blue book from the JW's, it 'explains' our history in their eyes.. Gotta say its one of the most interesting things I read, not because I believed any of it, but because it gave me an insight into this religion.. It actually scared me to think people not only believe what I read, but that they push it on others...
And to negetive comments on people who don't believe in a god, I'm sorry but its my experience that these people are mostly open minded and good people.. Religion doesn't teach tolerence and respect, they try to give off the illusion of it... JW's especially don't ever respect non JW's, I've heard this often from my JW's friends.. Thats why I call it a cult, my JW friends even agreed.
JW's look at us as the fallen needed to be saved by them, they go door to door trying to save us.. I think its them who need to be saved 
There were some nice discussions in this thread!...
Just another question.. are you jehova's allowed to be treated by a doctor for your diceases/illness...
And i dont mind you being a jehova... as long as you dont come nocking on my door.
jehovas witness are like a Cult, and the door to door thing is really a BAD idea
it;s all good...
yes of course were allowed 2 be treated by doctors..the only thing is we cant have blood transfusions or anything involving blood...but bloodless surgery is just as good and is being used more and more..even doctors are now recommending it more than blood because there is less chance of catching diseases any other harmful things..:P
hu?why aren't you allowed to have a surgery including bloodtransfusion?And what if it could save your life?
because it says so in the bible (acts 15:29)to abstain from blood
if it came to that point which it rarely does then we would die rather than take unclean blood--its the 1 thing thats quite strange about jw's
hehe lol all religions have more than one strange thing you know hehe but also the bible has got a lot of contradictions in it,I'm sure if you search well,you'll find an act that says you're allowed to recieve blood hehe,but actually the bible isn't such a good book you know,it contains a LOT of violence
mmmmm im sure ur the expert....dont make statemants if uve never even read it(im assumin u aint)
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| Originally posted by Dj Martijn mmmmm im sure ur the expert....dont make statemants if uve never even read it(im assumin u aint) |
so you assumed wrongly,and the bible also says 'don't judge people'......
well surely if uve read the bible ul no wat the contradiction 2 not having blood is?no??...maybe cos there isnt 1..neither any others
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| Originally posted by Dj Martijn well surely if uve read the bible ul no wat the contradiction 2 not having blood is?no??...maybe cos there isnt 1..neither any others |
there are no actual contradictions in the bible its just the way ppl use it 2 quote things is often wrong and they use it 4 something else.i had an example of this the othher day but i cant rememeber it..if i do ill post it later
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| Originally posted by ftnb i used to argue with people like juno, but i dont even bother anymore, its pointless..theyll never share my views, and thats alright, i RESPECT that, but he should RESPECT my views, and martins views also. im not jehova witness, im catholic... and its funny, my religeon is a very traditional one, but i seem to be alot more liberal and unbiased on people's religions than you athiest people, i dont really give a flying rats ass if there jehova's witness, protestant, mormon, SATANIST, i dont care. really i dont , i believe a person's allowed to believe in whatever they want. But like i said before, i dont argue with people like you juno, cause people like you have not even tried to understand other religeons, so you have no concrete information or theorie's...read the bible, then you can try and debate on the matter. ->>I dont practice any religion, on the grounds i dont believe in god. if god existed, and gods so great.. right... why does he allow so much bad shit to happen? ie, women being raped, people being murdered for no reason, etc etc. surely someone so wonderful and great would see to it that these things dont happen? but no, this shit just goes on and on and on, why the fucks he just "sit up there an do nothing" if you ask me, god can go fuck himself.  Hrmm, yes, this sounds like a very intelligent theory. hey if your going to remark upon a subject as touchy as god, and your going to do it in these forums, at least TRY and do it in a civilized manner, as in not dissing god in any way, and anyways its immature, and really looks shitty. SO LETS TRY AND PRACTICE A LIL MORE "respect" in the forums plz. thanx. peace. |
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| Originally posted by theeyesofdarkness i used to argue with people like juno, but i dont even bother anymore, its pointless..theyll never share my views, your use of words shows that you are frustrasted w/ this topic. and how come you will only argue in attempt to change someones views. how bout arguing to show your views and letting the other person make what they want with it. who cares if their views change.. and maybe they are arguing in attempt to change your views. i doubt you really think about what the other person is saying. you are VERY wrong about people who dont believe in god being more judgemental on those who do believe. that is oposite.. i have found people who dont believe in god to be more logical and open minded on the subject. he wasnt bashing what you believe. he was stating his opinion and so what.. to me if there is a god like the one you believe in he can go fuck himself.. id crucify him my damn self if i ever met up w/ him. and thats my opinion and it shouldnt offend you. because thats not a statement against you its against something you believe in. how do you know that juno has not read the bible or studied other religions.. i was raised in a church and have read the bible which is a novel in my opinion and i still dont believe in god. your post makes you seem very biased against what he posted. your use of the words.. "people like you" how much could you know about what kind of person juno is just by a lil post.. you are the one making yourself look like you are putting someone else down and making yourself look like an ass. id love to get you in chat and give you an educated argument on "religion" |
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| there are no actual contradictions in the bible its just the way ppl use it 2 quote things is often wrong and they use it 4 something else |
Furthermore, any atheist who attacks and/or judges people's beliefs as opposed to the logic behind their beliefs or their methodology in beliefs, can deal with me also.
We have no right to judge anyone else, so as a plea to all atheists, please don't judge people and certainly don't call them names, regardless of what their beliefs may be. I certainly don't agree with Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) but it certainly doesn't give me the right to judge anyone. Everyone has the right to believe in what they want to believe, and no-one can deprive anyone else of that right, but, given this, I believe on logical - not personal - grounds, that belief in a god weakens a man, and that logic, science and objective rationality are far a far more amiable pursuit than that of religion.
Like I said, if anyone wants to discuss this with me further, please contact me:
icq# 13526835
e-mail: [email protected]
OK, you wondered if there are jews in this forum, so here is your answer...
ok i'll say some things to save my respect:
basicly, i'm a jew, i was born to a jewish mother and father.
but i really really don't believe in god, and even if i believed that there is one i'd surely not worship him.
ok now i'll make some corrections, most of the jews doesn't wear these stupid black clothes, and not even these skullcaps, those who wear these black clothes and skullcaps are very strict believered, and they are only 15% in israel, and they live in their own cities.
so if you see a jew in the streets, anywhere in the world, you'll probably wouldn't notice that he's a jew, and if you'll walk over Tel-Aviv it will be rare if you'll see one of these strict believeres.
another thing, all those things you say about going door to door and try to convince people to join them, it's all crap. basicly it's againt the jewish byble to let a non jew into the religion (when i say jew i mean someone whos his mother and father are jews), so the only thing they'll do is trying to convince the non-religous jews to become one of them, acually it's kinda funny, sometimes i find these tapes in my mailbox, a rabbi who recorded himself praying, i even took it once instead of throughing it to the garbage can, i thought it would be funny, LOL, I laughed my ass off!!! it was so stupid. oh and that going through door to door, i dunno what you're thinking but i never saw these guys coming to my place- or any plance.
so what i'm trying to say is that most of the jews are the same people like you who act the same, but have a jewish mother and father.
and you don't want me to start talking about idealogics, that will lust forever.
btw, jehovah is the real name of god according to the jewish religion, and it's a sin to say it, but just for the fun i'll say it three times
Jehovah's Witnesses are Christian aren't they?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but all of (i.e. both) the Jehovah's Witnesses who have come to my place have been promoting Christ as opposed to Judaism?
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| [i] Remember when the catholics used to burn others of differnet beliefs...ohh that was productive... [/B] |
Hey, whatever you believe is your own personal choice. The only thing that I don't agree with is for ANY religon to force their beliefs on others and for any religon to be so close minded to think that "their" way is the ONLY way. Anything is possible in this universe, and to think that there is only 1 truth is absurd.
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| Originally posted by Johnny Eckhardt Hey, whatever you believe is your own personal choice. The only thing that I don't agree with is for ANY religon to force their beliefs on others and for any religon to be so close minded to think that "their" way is the ONLY way. Anything is possible in this universe, and to think that there is only 1 truth is absurd. |
ya dude, its done and over with its alright.... there wasnt supposed to any confrontation anyways..but ya whatever, this thread is getting boring and stuff alreayd also.. 
... but yap, enuff said.
peace
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| Originally posted by DJ Juno good point johnny E |
is jehovah's witness that group that rings on door bells that wakes me up in the ffreakekenk saturdays!!!!!!!!!! c'mon !!!! well it is kinda cool .but anyways..dont they have like another book after they bible and stuff? might be another group but if it is i think thats not right...its like u know sequels always suck hehe..yeah
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