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Posted by occrider on Apr-30-2003 18:36:

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Still, even if Moore increased the number of homicides by two times, the US still has much more homicides than all the other countries. And the fact that only 0.4% of the deaths are caused by gun homicides is totally irrelevant. Infact, it means that you have a 0.4% chance of someone shooting you, which is pretty much.

Not if he increased Australia's homicide rate by two. And it's not a .4% chance of getting shot, it's if you are ALREADY going to die, the chances that you die by gun is .4%. This is especially relevant since the movie revolved around guns and American society.

Posted by TranceSeeker on Apr-30-2003 21:32:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Bowling for Columbine, the movie

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Originally posted by XxremedyxX
I love how u keep sayin america is this, america is that. Its not America but instead its the crazy, psycho bastards in america. Those people belong in a mental institution. The kids that killed students were crazy in the head. Every country has crazy and psycho people that do the same thing its just that America has more of those type of people.

I know what U mean mate, I know what u mean.
I also said a dozen times that this isn't pointed to any person, dog or whatever...

But what about America that wants to rule the world then....
Sending thousands and thousands of people to the war...just bombing some random shit somewhere and push some random king/president from his throne
Is that normal then...?
Keep the fuck out of someone elses country!
No, don't be offended now, it's not your fault, it's "you know who's" fault.

Posted by Neo nEro on Apr-30-2003 22:05:

MisterOpus1: i thought we were talking about the am Radio pundits. Anyway with regards to fox news, the other networks are just as biased in their own way. Case in point is what is happening with CNN.

Posted by TuanAnh213 on Apr-30-2003 22:49:

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Still, even if Moore increased the number of homicides by two times, the US still has much more homicides than all the other countries. And the fact that only 0.4% of the deaths are caused by gun homicides is totally irrelevant. Infact, it means that you have a 0.4% chance of someone shooting you, which is pretty much.

do i really give a fuck? you can spew out all your bullshit about how dangerous america is but like i said im enjoying life in america and america still is by far one of the best places to live at in the world

Posted by Renegade on May-01-2003 03:15:

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I love how u keep sayin america is this, america is that. Its not America but instead its the crazy, psycho bastards in america. Those people belong in a mental institution. The kids that killed students were crazy in the head. Every country has crazy and psycho people that do the same thing its just that America has more of those type of people.

Absolutely, there are crazy psycho people in every nation who would go on gun rampages given half an opportunity. The problem is, though, in the US these "crazy, psycho bastards" have relatively easy access to powerful weapons - would the Columbine kids have been able to cause as much damage if they only had regulation pistols or, better still, only knives or their bare-hands? Or could the situation have been averted - as the pro-gun people would say - if every student had a >> Tec-DC9 << (that was used in the shootings) on them as well, that day, for self-defence?

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you sir are an idiot. You wanna talk about irrelevance, this topic is irrelevant to you. you have no place to even give a fuck about our county and its people. or scratch that, let me thank you for your opinion and lets move on. Let us Americans worry about our moronic government and .4% homicides. you can strive for your utopia, but here when you have a large ass melting pot of different types of people, no one is gonna get along that well. live with it.

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Aren't you the same fellow who said he had the Berretta pistol when he was a little kid?? I think I'd have a much greater chance of dying by bullet if I lived in a region plauged by civil war...*hint hint*

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do i really give a fuck? you can spew out all your bullshit about how dangerous america is but like i said im enjoying life in america and america still is by far one of the best places to live at in the world

These were three of the most powerfully ignorant statements I've read on these forums for a long time. If people in the US are wondering why it the most hated country in the world right now, these sort of attitudes should give you some indication.

If you want to air you opinions, at least try and air them using facts and reason like Occrider, otherwise you're best just keeping your mouth shut. You're giving reasonable American people a bad name.

Posted by Neo nEro on May-01-2003 04:01:

okay heres what i see happening:

We have the people not from america that think that America should leave the rest of the world alone telling the US how bad their gun policies are and telling us we should ban guns etc.

isn't that a little hypocritical??

Posted by Neo nEro on May-01-2003 04:03:

Posted by Renegade on May-01-2003 04:14:

Firstly, we didn't ban all guns, only certain types. Look at these reforms (introduced in 1997) and tell me which of these you find to be unreasonable:

http://www.gun.law.gov.au/www/farHo...2D?OpenDocument

Secondly, what exactly do you mean by "Dont you remember what happened in Australia when they did that?"? Are you referring to the fact that the average Australian is now too scared to leave their homes because gun-wielding criminals now run the streets? You've been reading too many Charlton Heston speeches:

http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/ausguns.htm

Posted by DaveSZ on May-01-2003 11:25:

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Originally posted by Renegade
Absolutely, there are crazy psycho people in every nation who would go on gun rampages given half an opportunity. The problem is, though, in the US these "crazy, psycho bastards" have relatively easy access to powerful weapons - would the Columbine kids have been able to cause as much damage if they only had regulation pistols or, better still, only knives or their bare-hands? Or could the situation have been averted - as the pro-gun people would say - if every student had a >> Tec-DC9 << (that was used in the shootings) on them as well, that day, for self-defence?

These were three of the most powerfully ignorant statements I've read on these forums for a long time. If people in the US are wondering why it the most hated country in the world right now, these sort of attitudes should give you some indication.

If you want to air you opinions, at least try and air them using facts and reason like Occrider, otherwise you're best just keeping your mouth shut. You're giving reasonable American people a bad name.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I just happened to find it a bit hypocritical that someone who played with a 9mm pistol as a child, and lives in a region torn by war would criticize the gun laws (and therefore the availability/access of guns) in another country. I've never fired a gun, nor do any of my friends or family own guns. Now, on another level I can understand people's criticism of the US when it comes to shooting supposedly free people demonstrating in Iraq. I certainly hope there were reporters there so we can know the truth about those incidents.

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