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Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Dec-21-2004 17:53:

quote:
Originally posted by ZzZ The Goddess
Sorry for the newbish question....but is there a difference between hardstyke and hard trance or is it just another name for it, and if there is a difference what is it. Personally I like hard Trance, but I have heard some tracks labeled as "hard" but they sound quite different....too bassy and no melody.


hard trance is basically trance with more tougher synths and harder kicks, where as harstyle is a brainchild of nu skool gabba... harder kicks than hard trance, and contanis no trance elements, just rough industrious sounds


Posted by rooibos on Dec-21-2004 18:17:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
yeah true mate, but tbf you wanna stay away from that dutch cheese. uk hard techno fuckin pisses all over it


Jay, hows it goin you ****, it's moi aplz.

I think we can all agree that the Dutch suck at music, except maybe industrial hardcore.


Posted by nwopper on Dec-21-2004 20:16:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
LOL wtf are you talking about dood?!?!?!

derb rip theyre own tracks off with everysingle release,. they ALLL [and i mean all] have the same basslines, and synths. what started with derb -derb continued for the next 2-3 years in every production they released.

kai tracid is an extremely talented producer and has been since like mid 90's, and continually proves his talents all across his field, from floaty acid trance, to hard acid trance, and the more techier stuff. he co produces pretty much every track released on tracid traxxx.


May I please like Derb? Now go on and sue me for liking Derb...
I haven't mentioned Kai Tracid as a non-talented producer anywhere. I voted for him for the djlist goddamnit...

And it's 'girl', sis


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Dec-22-2004 09:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nwopper
May I please like Derb? Now go on and sue me for liking Derb...
I haven't mentioned Kai Tracid as a non-talented producer anywhere. I voted for him for the djlist goddamnit...

And it's 'girl', sis



lol im not hating for you liking derb, i like a lot of theyre older stuff, i just found it funny how you think theyre betetr than kai. up until very recently they seemed to have very little or no inspiration. i also cant stand theyre DJ sets either, i think theyre boring, but thats just me

and sorry i didnt know you were a fembot


Posted by pulsar99 on Dec-22-2004 10:01:

The best hardtyle dj in my opinion is Technoboy (Cristiano Giusberti),alias Dj Gius,Dj Sturdust,Tuneboy etc...The Italian Hardstyle

I can suggest you this tracks

Technoboy - Sexbuster
Traum - Sintetic shit
Tuneboy - Demolition
Technoboy - Housenation
Techonoy - Herdrive lesson 2
Dj Gius - Mega what (Dj Sturdust Remix)

These are all Techoboy's production

If you like hardtrance,i'll suggest you Max Savietto,alis Sa.Vee.Oh. ...The Italian Hardtrance


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Dec-22-2004 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by pulsar99
The best hardtyle dj in my opinion is Technoboy (Cristiano Giusberti),alias Dj Gius,Dj Sturdust,Tuneboy etc...The Italian Hardstyle

I can suggest you this tracks

Technoboy - Sexbuster
Traum - Sintetic shit
Tuneboy - Demolition
Technoboy - Housenation
Techonoy - Herdrive lesson 2
Dj Gius - Mega what (Dj Sturdust Remix)

These are all Techoboy's production

If you like hardtrance,i'll suggest you Max Savietto,alis Sa.Vee.Oh. ...The Italian Hardtrance


sorta agreed.. technoboy is a pretty good producer.. i like his older stuff more than anything, a lot of his more recent stuff under his many aliases arnt very good at all. good as a DJ tho


and agreed on saa vee oh .. no hacker.exe is fucking wicked hard trance


Posted by pulsar99 on Dec-22-2004 10:17:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
sorta agreed.. technoboy is a pretty good producer.. i like his older stuff more than anything, a lot of his more recent stuff under his many aliases arnt very good at all. good as a DJ tho


and agreed on saa vee oh .. no hacker.exe is fucking wicked hard trance


I have all Savietto's pruduction

TRY WITH THIS:

Sa.Vee.Oh - Loop Hole
Max Savietto - Alone (Sa.Vee.Oh. Remix)
Max Savietto - Pleasuredome

I love Savietto...the best Italian hardtrancer


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Dec-22-2004 10:19:

quote:
Originally posted by pulsar99
I have all Savietto's pruduction

TRY WITH THIS:

Sa.Vee.Oh - Loop Hole
Max Savietto - Alone (Sa.Vee.Oh. Remix)
Max Savietto - Pleasuredome

I love Savietto...the best Italian hardtrancer


ah cheers, to be honest savitto is one artist i forget to check out.

i have loophole too, thats fuckin class too : cheers ill check these.

i sorta cast him off a little after i heard tankis & savietto - incredible or unbelievable or whatever it was called. his first track with tankis i believe


Posted by pulsar99 on Dec-22-2004 10:24:

Tankis is italian too

Sa.Vee.Oh = Tankis & Savietto

Try with:

Tankis & Savietto - Semiramide
Tankis & Savietto - Outrageus
Tankis & Savietto - Antea


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Dec-22-2004 10:39:

oh right, nice one, thanks you learn sumthing everyday.

btw outrageous is the track i was thinking of above, i cant remember liking that very much


Posted by PEZ68 on Dec-22-2004 10:47:

Hardstyle is something that I really don't like but I saw you were talking about Tankis & Savietto - Outrageus. IMO it's not hardstyle and that's a superb tune . I remember the time when they played it in a club where I live


Posted by pulsar99 on Dec-22-2004 12:02:

quote:
Originally posted by PEZ68
Hardstyle is something that I really don't like but I saw you were talking about Tankis & Savietto - Outrageus. IMO it's not hardstyle and that's a superb tune . I remember the time when they played it in a club where I live



Infact we were speaking about hardtrance.Savietto is an Italian hardtrancer


Posted by nwopper on Dec-22-2004 16:44:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
lol im not hating for you liking derb, i like a lot of theyre older stuff, i just found it funny how you think theyre betetr than kai. up until very recently they seemed to have very little or no inspiration. i also cant stand theyre DJ sets either, i think theyre boring, but thats just me

and sorry i didnt know you were a fembot


Well, I think Kai's producings-skills and dj-skills are very good (technically he kicks the asses of DuMonde with ease ) but his latest productions aren't that appealing to me. But that's all personally....

Happy someone mentioned Max Savietto! That guy is awesome! His set at In Qontrol this year was By the way...does anybody know the Trance Generators? Or the Organ Donors?


Posted by Simcut on Dec-22-2004 17:28:

Kai is miles more talented than Derb, Jay is spot on with all Derb stuff sounding the same (bit like Hennes & Cold) but I still like 80% of it.

As for Max Savietto i'd be inclined to call him hard trance personally :-)


Posted by nwopper on Dec-22-2004 21:19:

Kai is part of Derb.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Derb

Kai Winter = Kai Tracid, right?


Posted by Simcut on Dec-22-2004 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by nwopper
Kai is part of Derb.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Derb

Kai Winter = Kai Tracid, right?


no mate, Kai Winter is 1/2 of Hennes & Cold (cold = winter lol)

Kai Tracid is Kai MacDonald


Posted by nwopper on Dec-22-2004 21:48:

^Than I was confused all the time!!

There are [b]two[/b[ Kai's at Tracid Traxxx... What are the odds of that!
Thanx for the enlightement... I was always confused whether Kai Tracid was Mc Donald or Winter...

Silly me!


Posted by pulsar99 on Dec-23-2004 08:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Simcut
Kai is miles more talented than Derb, Jay is spot on with all Derb stuff sounding the same (bit like Hennes & Cold) but I still like 80% of it.

As for Max Savietto i'd be inclined to call him hard trance personally :-)


Yes of course...Saviewtto & Kai Tracid the best hardtrancer


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