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Originally posted by DaveSaenz Sasha and Digweed broke into the American scene years ago, but it's true they made it big in the UK first. Sasha lives in NY for 6 months out of the year now....

i thought he had a place in san francisco...he only stayed in NY because of his Twilo residency

at ease people arguing on the internet is stoopid.. the thread should better be closed

running dog will eat you

this year is not the year for progressive house and trance over here in the U.K. People seem less interested in listening to progressive and more are into house ,D N B, hip hop and commercial cheese trance .

I must agree with reso about what hes trying to say about true genuine trance. I listen to all genres of electronic music, that is Trance, House, Prog, Hard House , hard trance, Dnb, Breakbeats, you name it. Me being a listener of all these genres and also loving all of them must agree that there hasnt been anything innovative in any of the genres other than progressive... Also id say hard house and its sub-genres are doing well, but I havnt really been impressed in any way with the trance productions i've been seeing or anything that appeals to me much. I also see an upcoming trend in techno coming up in america. At least in Miami i'd say.

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Originally posted by reso im not trying to ridicule prog elitists u dumb fuck roflmao...

sand her k? i <3 prog? DJ Raver XTC. Nuff said.

Music is opinionated, some like progressing beats, others like buidups and breakdowns, does it matter which is better?? Prog heads are a bunch of snobs, u ma fuckas talk shit online, but in reality y'all just looking for a way to make yourselves feel better... Who gives a damn whats cheesy or not, Quality and sound varies from person to person.... Listen to music because you like it period.

progressive is a state of mind you idiots. progressive tracks dont have plasticky synth buildups and 10 year old drum rolls. thats all been done millions of times over.

progressive is, by definition, the future. music progresses and evolves, and thats what progressive music is all about.

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Originally posted by muzak progressive is a state of mind you idiots. progressive tracks dont have plasticky synth buildups and 10 year old drum rolls. thats all been done millions of times over. progressive is, by definition, the future. music progresses and evolves, and thats what progressive music is all about.

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Originally posted by reso i hate trance plain and simple.

outback - minds in motion

if you think that's simple, you're a cock

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Originally posted by Ian^ Do Not Pass go, do not collect �200, please enjoy your stay at lamers.com

I totally agree, what are some of these progheads in this thread playing at? Get down from your prog cool club and back to reality; each person likes different things, what one person likes is not less mature or complex than what another person likes you bunch of cocks.

Who are you to say that a piece of music that one person adores (i.e a trance tune) is not as deep, meaningful, complex and mature as what you like (i.e a prog tune)? I think it's down to opinion, not neccesarily all this maturity and understanding at all!

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Originally posted by muzak progressive is, by definition, the future. music progresses and evolves, and thats what progressive music is all about

Says who? You? And who are you? Come back when you've got a clue.

These threads are really annoying, I dont see why a fan of a genre that has relativley close links with another genre can have so little respect...

haha nice Ian.

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Originally posted by aloep sand her k? i <3 prog? DJ Raver XTC. Nuff said.

indeed

you are all fuckin n00bs


most of you consider prog stuff like Holden and Digweed


PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELVES PEOPLE

ow look here, another nice thread about prog_vs_trance with a lot of respect for each other.
this gets boring.. dont start this lame threads anymore plz.

Its the year of good music like every other fucking year. I've heard a fuckload of good prog, dnb, breaks, trance, house out this year and who gives a toss? Just enjoy the music. 2003 the year of prog? More like 2003 is the year of elitism.

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Originally posted by Pointy Its the year of good music like every other fucking year. I've heard a fuckload of good prog, dnb, breaks, trance, house out this year and who gives a toss? Just enjoy the music. 2003 the year of prog? More like 2003 is the year of elitism.

I couldn't agree more.

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Bollox to all the elitists that think they are more 'Mature' Because they listen to xxxx genre.

I will listen to anything, or give it a chance at least.
Anything from uplifting/club Trance to prog, house hardcore, hardhouse.
Anything from hard rock to acoustic, to Orchestral tracks and a bit of RnB

Simpy put, If you think you are better or more intelligent then someone because of what type of music you like then you are a complete moron. Face it, this is an Internet Message board, when it comes to the crunch no-one gives afuck about your half arsed world in which U put your self on the high platau claiming to be almighty superior to anyone who listens any type of music that isnt quite what you like.
Some people really need to grow up.

Yes ladies and gentlemen, I am a trance addict
I love all trance prog/uplifting or otherwise.
Well Fuck me I must be a n00b then...

NOW KISS AND MAKE UP

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Originally posted by Bren-F I love all trance prog/uplifting or otherwise. Well Fuck me I must be a n00b then... NOW KISS AND MAKE UP

damn right!!

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Originally posted by chris_norris I totally agree, what are some of these progheads in this thread playing at? Get down from your prog cool club and back to reality; each person likes different things, what one person likes is not less mature or complex than what another person likes you bunch of cocks. Who are you to say that a piece of music that one person adores (i.e a trance tune) is not as deep, meaningful, complex and mature as what you like (i.e a prog tune)? I think it's down to opinion, not neccesarily all this maturity and understanding at all! Says who? You? And who are you? Come back when you've got a clue. These threads are really annoying, I dont see why a fan of a genre that has relativley close links with another genre can have so little respect...

when i say progressive is the future trancers get their panties in a twist. keep in mind the progressive music of today wont sound like the prog music of tommorow. all of you dont like prog house, thats fine. music has to evolve though, and progress. when music does this, its generally refered to as progressive. so whether any of us like it or not, progressive is the future.

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Originally posted by muzak when i say progressive is the future trancers get their panties in a twist. keep in mind the progressive music of today wont sound like the prog music of tommorow. all of you dont like prog house, thats fine. music has to evolve though, and progress. when music does this, its generally refered to as progressive. so whether any of us like it or not, progressive is the future.

Hardcore music has gone from old skool, and now there is hardstyle, an evolution, not a progression, so therefore you are wrong, music evolves,even progressive, so, evolution is what will shape future music

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Originally posted by USMC_Greg quote: Originally posted by Haak this thread sucks Agree. Proggheads should start their own website and stop knocking Trance. This is the best year for trance since 1999; I can't believe people would knock this shit for progg of all genres

lol, well that's not exaclty what i meant, cause i love prog, and i love trance, and techno. I just think the thread sucks cause of all the stupid prog vs trance arguments.

I'll keep my ass firmly planted on the fence here by choosing not to side with either trance or prog but im curious to know what the prog-heads think of the change of direction of Bedrock (surely one of the leading labels in the Genre - co-owned by Diggers himself). Word on the street says that when they return in October they'll be moving in a tech-housey direction and although certain prog DJs may still get bookings left, right and centre - a lot of the big names are struggling. Bigroom super-clubs aren't doing too well in Britain and when i've witnessed prog sets in more intimate venues, it's the housier stuff that gets people moving and the epic prog of old is less viable in today's club scene. Or perhaps that's just in the UK.

Please discuss.

Oh, and would someone care to draw a line between where proggy trance stops and trancey prog begins?

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Oh, and would someone care to draw a line between where proggy trance stops and trancey prog begins?

the line is blurred between prog and prog trance imo...it used to be evident but not anymore.

Trance vs Prog again

how excitting

i would say everyone has his own taste

2003- The year of techno

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